Hi Frank,

Thank you for your message. My current Internet connection is minimal and unreliable. I will read your messages. My responses will be intermittent. Perhaps days apart for the next two weeks. I have solutions that pertain to putting mass as the acceleration of light that have not yet been presented here. One has to do with predicting the radius of the hydrogen atom using only the masses of the proton and electron. When I have a reliable connection I will say more about this. Thank you again.

James

Hi James,

Your observation is correct from my point of view. The only point that I will make at this time is that my approach does indicate that the age of the universe is much older than current projections. I will respond more fully at a later time. Thank you for your message.

James

Hi Israel,

Please give the quotes along with your interpretations of them pointing out specific words and their usage. Just want to respond knowing that we are communicating accurately. Thank you.

James

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The top of a tower of height h emits light with frequency f, speed c and wavelength L (as measured by the emitter): f=c/L. An observer on the ground measures the frequency to be f'=f(1+gh/c^2), the speed of light to be c' and the wavelength to be L': f'=c'/L'.

James, could you please answer the following questions: c'=? L'=?

My answers: c'=c(1+gh/c^2) ; L'=L

Pentcho Valev pvalev@yahoo.com

Hi James

As I mentioned before you can find the whole information in his articles of 1911 and 1916. There are many myths and misunderstandings among the physics community in relation to both the second postulate of special relativity and Einstein's contribution to physics. This is because many historical facts are not included in textbooks. Textbooks usually show the condensed version of each theory. For instance, no book talks about the development of relativistic dynamics, in particular, the mass-energy relation. All contemporary textbooks attribute the whole of special relativity to Einstein which is not true at all. A similar situation occurs with electrodynamics which is basically attributed to Maxwell and Lorentz (implicit are Ampere, Ohm, Faraday, Gauss, etc. the pioneers of statics and dynamics). But unfortunately the history of physics has forgotten the tremendous contribution to electrodynamics of many authors such as Hertz, Fitzgerald, Larmor, Heaviside, Lodge, etc. All these researchers gave the shape to the classical electrodynamics of today.

In his article of 1911 he stated the principle of equivalence (despite the fact that he never understood the why of such equivalence). There he arrived at an equation similar to yours (8) and he explicitly promulgate that the bending of light near a massive object is due to the fact that the speed of light is not constant in a gravitational field. I could notice that in essence your line of thought is the same as his. Then, in his famous article of 1916 (The foundations of the generalized theory of relativity) he mentioned the following at the end of the second part: "... Also we see immediately that the principle of the constancy of light-velocity MUST BE MODIFIED, for we recognize easily that the path of a ray of light with reference to K' must be, in general, curved, when light travels with a definite and constant velocity in a straight line with reference to K."

Please take a look at my essay (THE PREFERRED SYSTEM OF REFERENCE RELOADED) where I discuss more about this issue. The corresponding references are provided as well.

Good luck in the contest

Israel

6 days later

Thanks James for reference to newphysicstheory.com in your Bio.

It is an excellent piece of work and fairly extensive.

As a PicoPhysicist, I say your proposition 'presence of matter causes light to slow as it approaches the matter' is a derivative conclusion from unary law in PicoPhysics. I have begun to expose concepts of PicoPhysics through an essay on Five Dimensions of universe .

Look forward to your comments and evaluation of the Five Dimensions of universe .

Thanks and Regards,

Vijay Gupta

    Israel Omar Perez,

    Thank you for your reply. I will read your essay.

    James

    Dear James,

    Welcome back. Hope you enjoyed your trip.

    I just wanted to post here a copy of Dr. Perez's comment to you:

    Author Israel Omar Perez replied on Aug. 6, 2012 @ 18:31 GMT

    Dr James

    Thanks for your post. I invite you to read, some of my posts here in reply to Pentcho's inquiries, there you will find some other arguments in favor of the variability of the speed of light in a gravitational field which is equivalent to having a fluid with a inhomogeneous refractive index.

    Israel

    That should make you feel good!

    Edwin Eugene Klingman

      Hi Edwin,

      Thank you for your message. Most of my time was spent helping my brother renovate an old farmhouse into something much more like a country cottage. He will be soon retiring there. It is a yearly event. The location is forty miles from the nearest small town. I receive roaming service in the small town, but receive nobody's service at the farm.

      I see that Dr. Perez preceded my name with Dr. I am sure it must have been inadvertent. Although I deliberately avoid giving out information about my education and work experience, I do regularly state that I am not a physicist. I do not want readers to perhaps be misled by its omission.

      James

      Hi Vijay,

      Thank you for your kind message. I followed your link "As a PicoPhysicist, I say your proposition 'presence of matter causes light to slow as it approaches the matter' is a derivative conclusion from 'unary law' in PicoPhysics." I am not certain from reading it how it applies to what I say about the variation of the speed of light. I have read your essay today and will comment on it at your forum. It is interesting to learn what others think and it was interesting to read your view. I look forward to reading exchanges between yourself and others at your forum.

      James

      James,

      I'm surprised at you. I know you are not silly enough to actually 'feel good' over someone addressing you as 'Dr.' What I was referring to is that a very competent individual is arguing in support of the basic premise in your essay, about the variability of time!

      Edwin Eugene Klingman

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      Dear James,

      Please will you read my paper in http://vixra.org/abs/1208.0018

      It important for your topic regarded to the variability of the speed of light. it gives new interpretation for the Lorentz transformation equations depending the variability of the speed of light by considering the Lorentz factor is equivalent to the refractive index. This concept is applying on GR, and then answering the question if light is bending by gravity or refracted. thus, solving the contradiction between quantum gravity and GR.

      Edwin,

      Sorry, that 'Dr.' stood out immediately upon reading your message. It is important to me to make clear that I am not a physicist.

      You are very correct about my having good feelings when a physicist says something that gives support to something that I say. It has happened before :) My hesitation to highlighting it has to do with the rest of what I say. I say too much that goes far against accepted theory.

      Take for example what I say about defining mass, and all properties for that matter, strictly in terms of the properties of its empirical evidence. Should a physicist ever agree with that point, I would be elated. It is a key point who's acceptance would necessarily throw support to much else I say.

      Or, if a physicist ever agreed with what I have stated about electric charge I would also be elated. That point is what establishes consistent clear unity in my work right from its beginning.

      Thinking about this prompts me to state that it has been very nice and is greatly appreciated to be able to state my case here at fqxi without having the administrators cast me out.

      James

      About questions that have been raised about my essay (Tom):

      Gravitation and acceleration are not the same things. Their effects can be the same. The point being that we cannot distinguish between different combinations of force so long as they add up to the same effect. The equivalence principle needs transferred to apply to force.

      There is both positive and negative mass in my work. That is because electrons cause the speed of light to slow while protons cause the speed of light to increase as light moves away from either one. There is no degeneration of the speed of light to zero. The equation I used in my essay to show a connection between light losing speed and objects gaining speed is not my equation. I used it because it is known. It is of limited use. It applies only to the example cited in my essay regarding an object approaching the earth. It does not describe accurately all circumstances how the spped of light varies.

      My string of force equations and bringing them into alliance is pursued because the forces expressed, whether non-linear or linear, apply to a particular object at a particular point. They must be compatible and interchangeable. I show how to interchange btween them.

      Gravity varies with time so long as it varies with the motion of objects. It varies for any mass with relation to all other masses. The existence of G demonstrates a standard for the combination of mass with distance. That is the purpose of the solution for G that I present. It is the standard proportionality constant that fixes all mass changes with distance changes in the manner necessary to keep G constant.

      Mass is not made of distance and time. It must be expressible in the units of distance and time. That is because its existence is inferred only from empirical evidence that is itself expressed in units of distance and time. Any introduction of new units is an intervention without justification into that which the empirical evidence is communicating to us. The result of introducing such new arbitrary units is that theory, along with its theorists invented meanings, is interjected into equations that corrupt the information that the uncorrupted empirical evidence would otherwise be free and able to tell us. The introduction of theory is a corruption.

      James

      Frank Makinson,

      I am preparing better responses to your messages. Truth is that enough down time for me has passed that I need to re-read your essay.

      James

      James,

      Just a brief comment to be sure you're aware that another essay seems to be in basic agreemnt with you: Declan Traill's essay #1363. He too assumes that the speed of light is variable in a gravitational field, and Perez has told him to check out your work. I'm excited for you!

      I may also be excited for myself, as I'm starting to see this as the link I have potentially needed between the Master equation of my earlier essays (leading to my current essay) and the curvature of general relativity. I must admit that I did not see the full potential until Israel Perez pointed out in his essay that the effects on light of variable density gravitational field are equivalent to the effects of the curvature of space-time of general relativity. That caught my attention. And now Declan has worked out other details that are, at least initially, impressive. I have not had time to digest his yet, or to compare them with yours, or to fit them into Israel Perez's theory or link to Daryl Janzen's theory or even Cristi Stoica's latest essay, but I will tell you that the implications of all of these are exciting, and I hope they pan out. I've been aware of the conversations about relativity, but I've been focused on quantum for a year or so, yet it's really good to see these essays on relativity.

      This is turning into quite an essay contest. The theme is a good one and many essays are simply great.

      Congratulations,

      Edwin Eugene Klingman

        Dear Edwin,

        Thank you very much for advice and guidance. I am well behind in reading essays. However, I too did at least begin to see divergent presentations among professionals. Firstly, it is very good to see the increase in professional submissions. This contest is a contest because of professional participation. Anything that professionals say is of interest to me even when it is in opposition to what I think. I do not judge essays by level of agreement with what I think. I judge them, to the best of my ability, by their competence. The essays and other's opinions, in general, can be in opposition to what I think and still win a level 10 rating.

        With regard to anything an expert says that appears to fit or relate to what I think, it is of great personal interest. Israel's essay spoke about space as a medium different from how I would explain it, but, he wrote about the variation of mu and epsilon with distance from matter. That is major and sufficient in itself.

        I have found no problem with replicating the equations, in adjusted forms, of relativity theory for the purpose of modeling relativity type effects. I say type effects because I want to make clear that those effects, while real empirical effects, are not properly described theoretically by relativity theory. Speaking my opinion, the introduction of relativity theory has been a major impediment to furthering our understanding of the nature of the universe.

        The steps I mentioned recently, regarding mass and electric charge, in an earlier message make clear the way for removal of all theoretical inventions including relativity theory. As always I do not assume that you agree with what I am saying. Readers should understand that my statements are my opinion and I am not a physicist.

        Thank you for the heads up alerts. I need them. Since my main interest has always been about fixing theoretical physics, my view does not have to be the correct understanding of the nature of the universe for me to appreciate seeing progress toward that end. Your own work is a major, and far more sophisticated professional, effort to advance theoretical physics from its low mechanical status to a level where the most important properties of the universe become included in the 'foundational science'. If your work proves to be the new physics that suits me fine.

        James

        James,

        A great discussion thread. As Frank summarised,

        'Your essay challenges the assumption that the void of space, free space and that of a vacuum measured on the surface of the earth represent absolutely the same condition.' And secondly, you propose that 'the presence of matter changes the permittivity of the medium in which an electromagnetic (EM) wave is permitted to propagate'. I'd agree with those premises, and I think you have raised a good essay topic.

        Thank you

        Dirk

        Regarding the nature of particles of matter and their relationship to the speed of light as presented in my work:

        Thus far all of the work that I have completed at my website and have presented in my four essay contests submissions involve the consequences of just photons and the variations of their velocities. The speed component of the velocity of light varies everywhere. There are no other material constituents. Particles of matter are interpretations of variations in the speeds of photons.

        The variations of the speed of light are omnipresent. There is no location where the control of the speed of light is not present. Electrons are peaks in the speed of light. Protons are valleys in the speed of light. Neither goes to inifinity nor to zero. Their magnitudes are not equal and opposite. However, if they were to overlap their effects on the speed of light the resulting combined speed would be the constant C at all points.

        Their masses are the inverse representation of their effects upon photons. They cause photons to accelerate with both positive and negative changes in speed. The speed of light is never a constant. Yet, the speed of light always measures locally as the constant C due to length contraction of photons.

        The activity of the universe is due to two opposing circumstances. The first is that: Light seeks to achieve a universally constant speed of C. The second is that: The seeking process involves delay and that delay prevents the seeking process from achieving its goal.

        James