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don't hope but be sure Mr De Wilde, it is totally different.

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Hi Wilhelmus,

I have some questions about your essay:

What defines consciousness (loosely)? How does our consciousness affect the Universe, insomuch that the Universe may or may not have been different before humans emerged? Or are humans nothing special?

- Shawn

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    LOL... Don!

    Hi Shawn,

    Consciousness is defined by the human being, because it it is a "feeling" that we are aware of, we are aware of the "I", but how do you define your own "I" when it changes every moment you are receiving new data ? Your "I" is eveolving, because of the fact that your Subjective Simultaneity Sphere( SSS) is changing coulors every Planck time.

    Our consciousness is affecting the universe you ask, the reality of your universe is just a result of your consciousness, because it is your causal part of consciousness together with the non causal part in TS taht is forming a life-line that you are experiencing as the "reality".

    In TS there are an infinite number of probabilities "AVAILABLE" to our consciousness and to any other consciousness possible and probable. Our non causal consciousness (your own personal also) is an availability thet is always reachable by any consciousness, it is eternal. The life line that is created by the non causal part of our consciousness is unique, so special. The fact that consciousness in any form can create "reality" is not unique.

    Wilhelmus

    Jedi 5steve) I am no sure of anything, because there is so much probable...

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    Hi Wilhelmus,

    I'll have to think on that for a while. I have seen some videos called Spirit Science on YouTube that kind of reminds me of what you're saying (but not the same). I'm not the biggest fan of the series (mostly due to silly swipes at "Mara" entities such as myself, but whatever), though it is very creative and the message is primarily about peacefulness.

    My only problem is that I am adamant that humans are not special. Surely other animals also affect things in the way that you're describing. Plants and rocks probably don't play such a role in your theory?

    - Shawn

    Dear Shawn,

    Every consciousness in my perception COUNTS.

    Even the consciousnesses we do not know or understand, every consciousness has its own reality, in its own causal time/life-line (the term life is a term that is compared to our own way of life and surely also valuable for other life-forms that we just cannot perceive as that).

    The observations we are making of our universe (our SSS) is the origin of a reality in which other life-fortms wioth other forms of consciousness are also taking part, this is the result of the cutting circles of our SSS's not only with the same forms of consciousness as ours but also with the SSS'sf other forms of existance with their own SSS (they are the origin of data on our own SSS).

    This together with the Objective Simultaneity Spheres (OSS) is the result of the decoherence of our "total reality" in our memories.

    When you look at a stone, you are aware of its form, the foramtion of ots molecules do not influence our senses in the way that the stone can communicate with us, only far away in your awareness you can sometimes feel all the history of the stone (its SSS together with the OSS of other so called "dead" material). The decoherence of the history of the stone "its reality" is though forming a "real history" and more.

    Of course with other living beings (like cells etc) the same approach.

    "EVERYTHING" is not only an observation of our consciousness (so part of our memory) but also an alpha^probability in Total Simultaneity.

    Our life-lines in TS touch in this alpha probability ALL and EVERYTHING, this forming our total (illusive) reality.

    I am preparing a chapter on this subject.

    Wilhelmus

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    Hi Wilhelmus,

    Thank you for the extra information on your theory. I see that you're on vixra, but you haven't uploaded your latest work -- I hope that you upload it. I'll keep an eye out for it.

    Have a good day.

    - Shawn

      Dear Shawn,

      I uploaded a more complete version of my essay ("THE CONSCIOUSNESS CONNECTION, A METAPHYSICAL CONCEPT") to Vixra. http://viXra.org/abs/1211.0019

      I would be happy to receive your comments here on my thread.

      Wilhelmus

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      Hi Wilhelmus,

      I indeed saw that your work was uploaded to vixra. I will study it this week. Thank you.

      - Shawn

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        Hi Wilhelmus,

        I don't have any really new questions beyond the ones I've already asked (I am still unconvinced that humans play a much grander role than dirt). I would like to note though that the absolute simultaneity concept reminds me of Mach's principle.

        - Shawn

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        dear Shawn;

        absolute simultaneity is a term used by Einstein and indeed goes back to Mach.

        TOTAL SIMULTANEITY is not comparable to "absolute simultaneity" (see my essay)

        Humans and dirt ?

        Both are perceptions of our consciousness.

        Both have material formation, that of humans seems to be order and that of dirt disorder, but this order and disorder is a result of the composition of our consciousness wich is narrowed by the reception of our five senses, perhaps we need other senses to observe the consciousness of "dirt".

        So the nomination that we humans have "grander" role as dirt is only relative to the senses applied.

        best regards

        Wilhelmus

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          Hi Wilhelmus,

          What is the difference between absolute and total simultaneity?

          I'm pretty sure you've figured out by now that when I ask a question it's because I'm curious, and when I make a statement, it's because I'm certain. I'm actually curious.

          - Shawn

          Hi Shawn,

          absolute simultaneity: The origin of this term comes from the "Block Universe", which is a method to view our universe cut in slices (in my perception slices of a Planck time), in each slice events are simultaneous, independent of an observer.

          Total Simultaneity : all the slices of ALL probable and improbable universes together, in this TS there are slices where your consciousness is present, these slices are what I called alpha-probabilities.

          Like you I will always stay curious, the "statements" I make are my perceptions of reality, and I am aware that it is not the whole Truth (the ultimate truth is not available in our mortal causal lives) so I am also aware that I only try to give my opinion that may or may not attribute to the truth finding.

          best regards

          Wilhelmus

          7 days later

          World Next Door : Michael Hanlon about Graham Greene : The hidden Reality. here Michael Hanlon askes at the end of his article "an intelligent place for consciousness".see [link:www.aeonmagazine.com/nature-and-cosmos/michael-hanlon-multiverse/"World next Door"[/link]. I will sent my essay to Michael and ask his opinion if my proposition is intellgent enough.

          Wilhelmus

            The article can be found on "AEON Magazine , Nature and Cosmos / Michal Hanlon Multiverse. Sorry that the link above did not work. http://aeonmagazine.com/nature-and-cosmos/michael-hanlon-multiverse/

            Today I studied the implications of our history and evolution in relation with consciousness and Total simultaneity: (to be altered, under construction, follow the thread):

            THE HISTORY OF HISTORY

            We always want to understand the Start of Everything. In the materialistic reductionist way this beginning is inevitable a naked singularity, this is imagined as a dimensionless point, the point of creation where science brakes down, the reductionists cannot go further back.

            In our perception the acceptation of material limits of our universe, there are no singularities, the end of causality (until now the Planck length and time) is also the beginning of Total Simultaneity , where our non causal part of consciousness "resides", the word reside is in quotation marks because the description of a timeless non causal point in TS is impossible for us causal mortal beings, it would be the same as describing a part of GOD.

            When we are imagining this Alpha-point (α-P), it is part of an infinity and has an infinite way of availabilities "around" it. The NOW as we perceive it is as explained already history and part of our memory, this NOW was created by the entanglement of our causal consciousness with the non causal eternal part, so if our non causal part of Consciousness (from now on NCC) has an infinity of available probabilities to create a future it has also an infinite availability of creation of PASTS.

            Once our consciousness forms with one (α-P) a "certain" causal life-line (in the past), this is only one the uncountable ones. We are living an infinity of pasts in TS, only these pasts and futures need not to be material universes they are like "thoughts" in the mind of GOD. The one we are aware of here is the one that seems to us the fine-tuned universe we live in.

            The fine-tuning of our universe is created by our consciousness as are the pasts that we think that are reality. Every past is memory in our minds and no longer materialistic existing, it is a "thought" that is coupled to the NCC in TC. Yes in this way "our" universe is created every Planck moment, with a probability of each moment a new past and a new future.

            The causal reality that we experience is a fluctuation of the NCC in TS. It is a beautiful thing to perceive that we "live" an infinity of causal lives, every one of it available as causal totality only 10-43 sec !

            When humanity is thinking about life after death and the existence of the Soul it is touching this eternal fluctuations in causality and causal consciousness "knows" but cannot explain its eternal part of the TS.

            Each human being has its causal consciousness and its NCC in TS, by the interpretation of the Subjective Simultaneity Sphere (SSS) around the core of causal consciousness and the imagination of all these SSS's around the earth , receiving each one of course different information and sharing this information so that their "colors" on their SSS's are changing when opinions are changing but also when new scientific "results" are becoming clear, the whole system is like "decoherence" in quantum theory, a mutual "history" is forming.

            That is why reductionism can "now" go back to the so called Big Bang, our instruments (lengthening of our senses) are able to look further but also deeper in the structure of what we perceive as reality, so our interpretations of this reality are constantly changing and we form compared to 500 years ago a quite different picture of our history, these perceptions are changing every moment. Evolution is one of the questions we are posing, how did we get to the way we are now ? TS is an infinite of availabilities where ALL the probabilities cannot be observed, one cannot count all the life-lines, so in fact the search for evolution is search for a "typical" life-line between the infinity of probable ones, so everybody is right, Darwin, Intelligent Design, The Bible etc etc. It is our consciousness that leads to more life-lines (universes) because it creates them every time. (we are just a thought of GOD).

            When applying this to our perception of the conscious infinity of pasts that are any moment available in TS , we see that once a new perception is reached in TS we are following just another life-line, and it comes for all of us as the decoherence of the SSS's makes us share these new life-lines in TS. Of course I repeat that this process I describe is not describable but we have to use words to communicate in this configuration of our universe.

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            Just a remark about the human brain : 100 billion neurons each one with 10.000 connections. IBM now simulates 530 billion neurones and 100 trillion synapses. It is about 5 times the capacity of the human brain , yet there is no consciousness...

              Well, no consciousness can be detected in functioning human brains, either. If local connectivity of neural networks = consciousness, brain science would be exceedingly easy.

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              Anonymous,

              what definition of consciousness is used to determine that? Is it just asking if it is awake rather than just functioning? That question makes me think about the recent article posted on FQXi Nov 6 "Embracing complexity", talking about the complexity of systems, and systems of systems. Perhaps rather than just very many connections there has to be a certain amount of complexity or organisation of those connections, and maybe organisational hierarchies of the organised connections, before the phase transition from functioning at the individual connection level to a whole coordinated region function or even whole system level.

              I'm thinking of it like this -information cascading through the system and some being reinforced and other parts being filtered, additional relevant information being accessed and included and the affect of many different pathways working concurrently in response to a stimulus or input to give the output or response. Perhaps the activity of a supercomputer is still too chaotic at present and being more like a lot of noise noise rather than waves of activity.

              The human brain does have a number of different levels of activity the various levels of sleep state being different from the fully awake and aware state. Though I have read that sleep to awake is a continuum rather than switch like. The overlap of states can account for some of the unusual experiences that people can have when they feel awake but are actually partially in a sleep state. Each state has a characteristic brain wave pattern which is the measurement of the electrical activity in the brain.

              Maybe there has to be some kind of equivalent pattern of activity in a device or system to have corresponding state of being awake. Both the sleep and awake states of mammals serve a survival function and have therefore a positive selection pressure. Since these devices are not yet self evolving, it may come, there would need to be an artificial substitute that imposes that necessity.

              Maybe rather than looking for conscious awareness they should be looking for or trying to develop signs of automatic coordinated activity which might be a proto- deep (dreamless) sleep state. It appears necessary in human beings and other mammals for physical and mental health. Perhaps when networks are self repairing a similar low level concurrent activity state might be come necessary. Maybe the phase transition to wakefulness is a development arising from the ability to co-ordinate the hierarchy of systems for testing of their robustness and repair where necessary . Which is to say perhaps it has to be asleep before it can wake up and to do that it must be more than just many connections, there must be organisation which is more than the sum of the parts, so to speak.