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Dear Author Wilhelmus de Wilde,

I found your brilliantly written essay utterly absorbing. I have only one picayune caveat to add to your masterful description of the machinations of human consciousness and it is this: In my thoughtful essay Sequence Consequence I note that no real physical snowflakes of the trillions that have fallen have ever been found to be identical. Yet physicists and mathematicians insist on using repeatable ageless abstract identical units for all of their supposed accurate measurements of physical phenomena. Although the Richard P Feynman quote you mentioned "We just have to take what we see, and then formulate all the rest of our ideas in terms of actual experience" is undoubtedly true, it does not explain to me why man seems to spend so little thought about what is happening here and now and prefers to addictively concentrate all of his energy on proving what might have happened before man came into existence.

    Thank you Frank for your comprehensive reply, I tried to give an interpretation that could be usefull, I see that our subjective simultaneity spheres are very near.

    Wilhelmus

    Dear Edwin, I am honoured that you are one of the first to read my essay, of course there are differences in our perceptions, first of all I am not claiming that I found the TRUTH, it is just another interpretation of the perceptions of my subjective simultaneity sphere, but it can be a facet of the answers that we all are looking for. In our earlier discussions we have met our differences , for me it has enriched my understanding , it is no use to become specialised (short sighted ?) and remain on an interpretation that will have changed anyway in 100 years. Wilhelmus

    Dear Azzam, Thank you for your reaction.I will begin with studiyng your comalogy today , the question of what there was first is a typical reductionist one, in my interpretation consciousness IS, in Total Simultaneity, your own consciousness is a lign-up of alpha probabilitiesin TS, this TS is infinite, if you compare it to a line there is to the left and to the right an infinity, so if you move the alpha probability it does not matter, left stays infinite and right also, therefore your own time-line in TS is also infinite and so the part your consciousness in TS is eternal. Our causal part of consciousness "contacts" this alpha probability and so creates a causal beta time. So there is in his perception no before or after or what was first consciousness or matter. This is also the reason why "chaos" is difficult to understand for us causal creatures, in fact even the idea "random" cannot exist in a causal deterministic universe, because there is always a cause to cause "random". I hope to continue our discussion.

    Dear Joe, You make me shy, but thanks alot, it is always a great question if your ideas will be accepted and/or understood when you are touching ideas that are not 100% reductionist as is science. To your question : In a causal universe humans have the inclination to ask what comes after and what was before. In my perception , that goes along a bit with the Chinese way of thinking that there was no creator "before" the existing universe, but thet the "order" harmonic or not is one of the properties of our Universe. Where I go further as the Chinese is that I accept a Total Simultaneity wher ALL IS, this is NOT a Creator but a non causal eternal singulairity wher verey alpha probability is available for a causal part of our consciousnes. Before our (causal) consciousness came to existence it existed already as an (eternal) alpha probability in TS. Our history is created in the objective simultaneity sphere, so you can choose to study in detail this sphere if you want and become a specialist on history, the same with every other scientific branche.

    These objective simultaneity spheres that are forming our history are influenced by study and research, to create new "interpretations", the TRUTH will perhaps never be found. Wilhelmus

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    • Post #10

    Dear Wilhelmus de Wilde,

    I'm very happy that I found someone that can understand and discuss my theory. There is a good question for Einstein, what can I see the world if I'm riding a ray of light., but since there is no material system can move with speed of light, because it is required energy equals to infinity, So the right question what if all my mass is transformed to energy, in this case I'll move with speed equals to the speed of light. According to Comalogy, the light is a system owns rest mass equals to zero, so it is located in the infinity state, which is the state of energy and zero mass. At the infinity state, the spacetime length is equal to zero, So if I transformed from our material world to the infinity state i'll see all my life history exited with me at the same time, where there is no past or future, it is existed only present. But since I have a mass, and then I'm existed in the median state, and own spacetime length greater than zero less than infinity, I receive only one information element in my present, and at the moment of receiving this information by my present it is transformed to past, and this moment is equivalent to the concept of Collapse the wave function in quantum. Relative to the speed of light c in vacuum, it is subjective, and it is related to the system located in the median state. If all the information is existed in the infinity state at the zero spacetime length at the same present without past or future. and since the light is a system located in the infinity, thus in the infinity state the speed of light is equal to infinity. Information are transformed to us in our material world at the speed of light in vacuum. not by the light itself, and this measured speed is related to our mass. In the infinity state I can't decide which came first the chicken or the egg, because, the chicken and the egg are existed at the same present at the infinity state.

    Dear Wilhelmus de Wilde,

    I think, the ratio of chemical potential with gravitational potential in lattice of multiple localities determines the consciousness; in that sub-atomic gravitation also to be included.

    With best wishes,

    Jayakar

      dear JJJ: the ratio of chemical potential is causal, the gravitational potential is emerging, our causal part of consciousnes is emerging once the material (chemical and biological) is set, this causal part of consciousness however is a part from the eternal consciousness alphe probabilities in TS and so in itself is also eternal. sub atomic gravitation is a possibility to be studied, perhaps it is a different "emerging" form of attraction on another scale as our marco scale.

      Wilhelmus

      Wilhelmus

      A fascinating, original and densely packed essay. I had to read some parts three times to fully glean the meaning, but worthwhile. It reminded me of my own, where a cursory reading will not allow engagement with the important key concepts wherein the value lies. As you know, I prefer to unravel and rationalise the falsifiable physical universe, so all the better to see the same job done well with free thinking about the conciousness realm. I suspect your Architectural training must help in funding that new perspective.

      You should be aware that I entirely agree with the concept that your "α- P singularity in Total Simultaneity harbours ALL histories of ALL the possible universes" along with a fully physical representation of that metaphysical concept.

      Also that; "What we perceive as chaos is in fact order", which I feel is one of the most fundamental truths beyond the current perception of human 'science'.

      Very well done, and best of luck.

      Peter

        Thank you Peter for your encouraging words. In the 2011 contest you were the first to post a comment and rate my essay, I will never forget that, in the past year I learned a lot from all the objects that were treated by FQXi, and I hope that my new essay is mirroring these thoughts. Good luck to you also.

        Wilhelmus

        Dear Azzam, the speed of light is locally bound to a maximum, in reference to other "parts" of our awareness it can differ. Be aware that I say awareness, because in our causal experienced universe, (which may be a dream) the speed of light is maximised. Once you go compare our so called material existence (which is only in the past) with other causal entities (information that is received by our consciousness) you are comparing alpha-probabilities from TS, and these are not comparable, only your memories and the theories that are created in your consciousness can be compared. Your formula's e"explain" these interpretations and you can exchange them with other consciousness (like mine), the problems so of your "energy" and "mass" interpretations that are influenced by SR (history) are real for you but perhaps not for others. There is no chicken and egg problem, it is all in our mind. It is our causal existance that has birth and death which causes us to find the "first" cause, but in fact this first cause is YOU. Hope to continue our conversation. Wilhelmus

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        Dear Wilhelmus,

        The crisis of physics concepts, principles, and laws that there are two theories describing two worlds, the macro, and the micro, they are the relativity and quantum. what I did in my graduation research in 1996 I formulated new theory that unifying the two theories at the same concepts, principles and laws, depending on the latest experimental results of both. I still remember the seminar of discussing my research in 1996, when I told my doctors, it is possible measuring speeds greater than light speed in vacuum for particles or electromagnetic waves without violation of Lorentz transformation or causality. At that time my doctors told me it is difficult to proof that at this time. The experimental results of quantum tunneling and entanglement are considered good proof for what I predicted. Existing a particle in two states at the same time is good proof for my modified relativity. OPERA, ICARUS, and SN1987a, Cherenkov radiation and The Pioneer anomaly are good proof for my modified relativity. The definition of the quantum field theory to the vacuum energy is good proof for my theory. the discovering of Higgs boson is is good proof for my theory. I have many to say about my theory, and I hope to discuss it depending on the unsolved problems in physics related to quantum and relativity and depending on the latest experimental results and how can be solved all of these problems according to the modified relativity according to quantum. If you would like, I'm ready to discuss each problem step by step. I would like to start with the Higgs boson and how it related to my theory COMALOGY in my next comment.

        Dear JJJ,

        In the model of your Coherently-Cyclic Cluster-matter Universe, you also indicate that point like is impossible to describe. Aren't you saying the same as I sais only I stop any material existence at the Planck length. You say : "Time is within the framework of dimensionality", I say "Time is an illusion created by our consciousness", however after this you come back with the "infinite Cycle Time, with Finite Duration", I think that we agrre together here only am placing this "moment" in Total Simultaneity and call it alpha-probability, that is to be "contacted" by our consciousness and so forming a beta time point (to become aware) in our causal universe. I like very much your essay, the string theory perception is one I do not share, because here also it seems a theory that goes to an infinite reductionism, rather then an emerging reality.

        Wilhelmus

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        • Post #19

        Dear Wilhelmus,

        The Higgs boson and The COMALOGY http://vixra.org/abs/1206.0002

        In my theory I consider the beginning of existence or the universe at t=0 is from energy not mass. Mass is created from energy. I name this state is the infinity state, it is the state of infinity energy and zero mass. At this state The spacetime length equals to zero. the light system is located at the infinity. At this state there is no past or future, there is only present. All the information that I live in my material world is coming from the infinity by the spacetime length. Since we have the mass, thus mass is creating the spacetime length greater than zero. Mass is a reluctance to receive all the information elements of all my life history in a zero spacetime length or at the same present. The higgs boson is creating this reluctance and creating the mass and the spacetime grater than zero. If there is no Higgs boson the particle will own rest mass equals to zero and thus its location will be in the infinity state same as the light beam. This illustrating why the particle without Higgs boson will move with speed of light in vacuum. The speed of light c is measured relative to a system which owns rest mass greater than zero, and c is locally constant. c is related to mass. The origin of the universe is not the mass, it is the energy. at t=0 everything in the universe was energy, and by existing the Higgs field it is created the mass and the speed of light c and the space and time what we know now, all of that are created at the time equals to blank time. Blank time is the time separation between the mass and energy. If I could leave my mass, and I transferred to energy, I'll find all my life history in the infinity state with me at the same present without future or past. The God particles forbidden me to reach that, they created my mass, time, space, and then past and future. Please read my paper http://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/1272 that interpreting what is the time and space according to our mass, and how I receive my information elements which are exited in the infinity state, and what is the meaning of the wavefucntion and the collapse of the wavefunction, all of these definitions are creater by mass.

          1st timer submission, not yet submitted, while reviewing similar works for End Notes.

          Loved your paper as I am pursuing "panpsychism" as a consciousness of ALL things.

          Approaching problem from "0" it would seem that the question, "Why do ALL things do what they do?" is apropos. I separate the identity of mass and energy as an inscribed sphere, tangent to the face of a regular tetrahedron, respectively. Interestingly enough they have equal surface-to-volume ratios at any size implying an equivalent "activity", or free energy. I've applied this in several ways.

          Comment? (may use in end notes)

            Hi Ted, I really want to learn more about "panpsychism". My first essay : "Realities out of Total Simultaneity" was also the first time that I took part in a contest and the first time that i wrote an essay on thoughts that I had already a long time, in this essay I explain more about Total Simultaneity, but this last one is more "organised". You mention the tetrahedron , hwhat do you think about the Dodecahedron, this polyhedron is containing ALL other five Platonic convex regular polyhedra. I see forward to your essay, of course you may use it in end notes. Wilhelmus

            Why complicate the matter when the contrast between tetrahedrons and spheres can define equivalent actions of energy and mass? Composed of both by a tiny particle, the electron, it mediates contacts with all particles, atoms, molecules, bacteria, etc. around that suffer "feelings", i.e. panpsychism. Are they slaves to me or am I to them?

            Dear Azzam: You accept a point ZERO in your perception of the creation of our reality. In my interpretation there is no ZERO point in our causal universe, the limit is the Planck time before that : non causal Total Simultaneity. You say Mass is created from energy, but it can also be the other way around, so both mass and energy are just a way of our perception of "reality". Infinite energy is difficult to imagine, I struggled with the same problem and introduced the infinite probabilities in TS, NOT IN OUR CAUSAL UNIVERSE. Your spacetime length is also ZERO, which is in my perception not possible, again I created the limit of our causal universe at the Planck length and time. The idea of past and no future only present is interesting, it equals my view of the alpha probaility point in TS, only these points together form ALL the presents possible, and they are non-causal.About the Higgs boson I have no specific ideas, only that I think that we are chasing ghosts, I think that gravity and mass are emergent from side effects from TS. (see for that also the theory of Verlinde (quoted in my essay as refernce).Our paralels are in what you call "information elements exited in the infinity state" this is almost the same as my description of TS. I printed out your essay and will come back on it. Wilhelmus

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            Dear Wilhelmus,

            I have read your essay. It is well written and enjoyable. I really do grasp your spheres of simultaneity explanation as I can fit it quite easily with my own way of thinking. About 2/3 of the way through I think, (it was some time ago that I read it) you began to loose me and it got complicated for me. Partly, I think, because of my own (unhelpful) resistance to what you were saying or how you were saying it.

            It seems that you are talking about the equivalent of observer interaction with the data pool, in my way of talking. You wrote:"Free will makes the choice of an infinity of alpha-Ps in TS." That seems to tie in with what I have been saying to Tom and others on Julian Barbour's blog thread about the whole set of possible transformations of an object existing as data in the environment:I might interpret your "an infinity of alpha-Ps in TS" as all of the potential data, co existing simultaneously in the environment, from which an observer will select an incomplete set; from which his personal fabrication of external reality will be constructed.

            It is a fascinating essay, though I do perhaps have to read your essay again to get used to how you are using the language to describe various concepts in order to thoroughly understand it.I hope you get lots of helpful feedback.Good luck.