Essay Abstract

In this essay, I argue that modern science is not the dichotomous pairing of theory and experiment that it is typically presented as, and I offer an alternative paradigm defined by its functions as a human endeavor. I also demonstrate how certain sci- entific debates, such as the debate over the nature of the quantum state, can be partially resolved by this new paradigm.

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Ian Durham is an Associate Professor of Physics at Saint Anselm College where he has served as Chair of both the Physics and Mathematics Departments and as Director of the Computational Physical Science Program. He is a member of FQXi.

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Sorry Ian,

You leave me unconvinced that you have successfully defended reductionism. I like your statements about what it is not, and how it is a term often misapplied to methodologies that are not, at their heart, reductionist. But you have perhaps created another form that is not - strictly speaking - reductionism either, and is rather an argument that to employ reductionist methods we need to allow diversity of interpretation - so it is a kind of expansive reductionism. I think perhaps the fault lies in the objectivism implied by defining Science as measurement, description, and predictive explanation - which ultimately disallows anything but a reductionist view.

The quote from Jaynes "the world is too complicated for us to analyze it all at once. We can make progress only if we dissect it into little pieces and study them separately" is something that is absolutely true only for those whose brain has a non-functioning right hemisphere. Fortunately; the rest of humanity does have a cognitive apparatus that continuously presents us with the view that reality exists as a congruent, whole, and unified reality. Simply put; while the left brain likes to take things apart and look at the pieces, the right brain likes to assemble the pieces instead. Of course this is oversimplified, but details can be found in this paper.

Does Lateral Specialization in the Brain Arise from the Directionality of Processes and Time?

The point is that reductionism is not time-reversible, but rather inference is the inverse operation of reductionist methodologies. So you may have shown the exact opposite of what you claim to prove. To further elaborate on the point of how your definition of Science requires a reductionist view, I recall a discussion in a paper by Connes (which I will find and post a link to) about smooth, topological, and measurable spaces - that I think has some relation to questions about objectivist Science as well.

A smooth relation may result in things being blended, so that objects and categories are less strictly defined, and are not clearly distinguished one from the other. Topology allows the property of sharp distinctions to arise, so that things, categories of things, and spaces, can be more clearly distinguished from each other. If we allow topological objects the property of separability, only then do we see the possibility for measurement, as such, to arise. So attempting to apply a reductionist standard, which assumes the properties of independent object to be extant, and then to require that there be a smooth relation between alternate descriptions, would appear to be another form of the same misapplication of reductionist terms (a la Lehrer), or a subtle duplicity.

So is there a single answer to which things can be reduced. No! And it would appear that you leave reductionism in doubt.

Regards,

Jonathan

    Jonathan,

    I think you have partially missed my point. My suggestion that quantum mechanics might need multiple interpretations was precisely that: a suggestion. It was a far cry from the primary point of my essay which was that the old theory/experiment duality is not an accurate paradigm for describing science.

    As for your continuing doubts about reductionism, I would be shocked if one eight-page essay by one person could definitively eliminate all doubts. My point about reductionism is that the anti-reductionist argument appears to be based entirely on an a priori assumption that the world is simply too complex to be explained by reductionist methods. In other words, anti-reductionism's argument against reductionism begins by assuming the latter is wrong to begin with. That's an argumentum ad ignorantiam: it assumes something is false simply because it has not been or cannot be proven to be true.

    By better understanding the role of mathematics in science (and in the nature of the universe itself), I think it is too early to sound the death knell on reductionism. In fact I find it down-right dangerous since it opens the door to things like intelligent design which have no place in science.

    Incidentally, reductionism does not mean that we are not interested in fully comprehending the whole of something (that's another inaccurate accusation lobbed at reductionists). Yes, sometimes the whole has properties whose meaning may be more than the sum of the meaning of its parts, but meaning is not the same thing as function. Meaning is not the realm of science, it is the realm of philosophy (which is not a bad thing, by the way).

    Ian

    Oops! The first sentence in the third paragraph should have said:

    "By better understanding the role of mathematics in science (and in the nature of the universe itself), I think we may find that it is too early to sound the death knell on reductionism."

    Let me add one more thing that was perhaps not made quite clear. There seems to be this assumption that reductionism automatically precludes more holistic approaches. But that's absurd. I can fully understand a car via reductionist methods, but understanding its purpose is still holistic. The holism comes from putting the pieces together. Perhaps a better example is a finger: a can dissect a finger and learn all sorts of wonderful things, but I still won't understand what causes it to move until I understand how the muscles and nerves are connected with the rest of the body. And yet I'm still using a reductionist method here.

    Thank you Ian,

    I appreciate the well-considered reply. I probably grasped more of your argument than it would appear, but I was feeling feisty (or wanted to play devil's advocate), and I have long believed that reductionism should itself be subject to the reductionist method, which to me means it should be taken apart.

    The thing is; if we were successful at completely dissecting reductionism, I suspect it would be like a watch once taken apart, with the pieces spread out on the table. Of course; in that condition it would no longer function. So we need to be able to assemble the watch as well, before we can claim to actually understand how it works.

    But I will grant that you have apparently showed we can assemble reductionism a bit differently, so it actually works as intended. In that case, reductionism is not dead - but was merely in need of repair.

    All the Best,

    Jonathan

    Thanks again,

    It appears that your comment above takes my reply into account, but appears just before I sent it. We must have been on the same wavelength after all.

    Regards,

    Jonathan

      Can reductionism tell us anything about telepathy? LOL, just kidding.

      Anyway, I appreciated your original comments. It's always good to poke holes in arguments. It's the only way we can know if we have made a mistake or not (and, it could be argued, is a reductionist method!). I don't mind feistiness as long as it is polite and free from vitriol (which your comments were).

      Agreed. Personally, I *do* think there is a limit to reductionism, but then I also believe there is a limit to what we can possibly know about the universe since we are a part of that universe and cannot view it entirely objectively.

      I will add it to my "to-read" list. (At some point, in a more private setting, I should ask you where in Upstate NY you are from...).

      Dear Ian

      I enjoyed reading your lucid and well-reasoned essay and Jonathan's retorts. As an Arab (my Russian name notwithstanding!) I laud your placing Ibn Al-Haytham where he belongs - at the beginning of any historical discussion of the scientific method. Sadly most such discussions start with Galileo ignoring Al-Haytham's pivotal contribution. Having said that, and having read his Kitab Al-Manather (Book of Optics) in Arabic I wonder if it is correct to compartmentalize his method into just theory experiment. There is also his meticulous systematic analysis and clear description, precursors of modern scientific writing. Considerable interplay between his theories and experiments is obvious in his writing. His observations of natural phenomena, not just in experiments, and his mulling these things over cannot be neatly put into these two pigeonholes. In any case his speculations did generate the predictive explanation that you spoke of: he used his experiments with the camera obscura and theoretical analysis of light rays to explain vision.

      You explained the difference between statistics and probability very well. I have definite bias against the use of probability as a causal explanation of Quantum phenomena (see my papers below).

      Thank you for explaining the nuances of the term reductionism as used these days. I wonder how you would describe such work as Stephan Wolfram's A New Kind of Science - where one starts from a model and builds upwards using mathematical and computational tools. My Beautiful Universe Theory on which I based my fqxi essay Fix Physics! might go under that category. Constructivism seems a nice word to desribe such work, but again there is that interplay between the model and what one knows of physics - a lot of hidden intuitive ideas working themselves out into theory...and experiment, and predictive explanations.

      Best wishes

      Vladimir

        Vladimir,

        Thanks for the nice comments! I must admit that I am not as familiar with Al-Haytham's work as I probably should be. That being said, I think that it's really the people who came after him and re-interpreted his work that distilled it into theory and experiment. As with everything, when we do something our intentions and motives are always more complex than they are later remembered. In other words, history has a bad habit of over-simplifying. So I think you are correct in saying that his work is considerably more nuanced than history has made it out to be.

        I will add your essay to my reading list!

        Cheers,

        Ian

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        In a serious sense anti-reductionism is a straw man. Practically, realistically, there's no other way to do experimental science except analytically. Scientists (and there'll always be those people because folks need to do something with their lives) will continue to employ reductionist methodologies because what's the alternative? Or at least they'll continue until they discover they no longer can, at which time the paradigm will shift big time anyway.

        It's sort of like inveighing against postmodernism. Corrupting the minds of an entire generation, of the whole intellectual class! Not so much. Besides, a lot of the funding's dried up.

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          Ian,

          I would certainly defend the intellectual necessity of reductionism, even to the point of describing it as a reflection of natural processes, as evidenced by some of the colloquial terms applied to it, such as distill, condense, focus, etc. As one might distill out the salient points of interest, or condense an argument to its irreducible points.

          I would argue that statistics and other forms of generalization are a form of reductionism. One is simply distilling out the relationships within a larger set, rather than focusing on all the details involved. Your distinction between statistics and probability proves the point, since statistics is the set of the known, as distinct from possible consequences. A fully wholistic view would not be able to make that distinction and that is the problem with true wholism. It entails all connections and relationships, without the conceptual necessity of defining/focused sets. Much as a camera shutter left open would collect far more information, but lack clarity.

          The intellect evolved out of the biological necessity of navigation by mobile organisms. Its fundamental function is to make decisions, even when the situation isn't clear. It is digital in an analog reality.

          This requires reductionism of information, whether to specific details, or to generalizations. The left, linear hemisphere is better at details, while the right, instinctive side is better at generalizations. It might appear wholistic, because it deals in masses of information, but the purpose is to reduce that mass down to such binary concepts as good/bad, left/right, up/down, yes/no, 5 to 3 odds, etc.

          I would also comment that the distinction you make between statistics and probabilities goes to one of the main topics usually discussed at FQXi and physics conversation in general and that would be the issue of time. Statistics only applies to what is known, ie. the past. While probabilities apply to how they might be applied, ie. predicting the future. Now consider the difference between how we acquire statistics from probabilities, vs, how we apply statistics to better understand probabilities. We acquire statistics by observing events as they happen, ie, what was future probability becomes past statistic. Now we go the other direction when we apply statistics to probabilities, we use the past to predict the future.

          In my essay, the problem I point out in physics is that we only think of time in terms of how the past is used to define the future, ie. going cause and effect. Yet the physical reality is of the future becoming past. In other words, we treat time as a narrative process from past events to future ones, but the physical process is one of dynamic change that collapses probabilities into actualities. Not the earth traveling a fourth dimension from yesterday to tomorrow, but tomorrow becoming yesterday because the earth rotates. So rather than going from a determined(statistical) past into a probabilistic future and ending up with multiworlds, it is the collapse of probability which yields actuality. A large part of the confusion is that cause and effect isn't sequence, but energy exchange. Yesterday doesn't cause today, any more than one rung on a ladder causes the next. It is the exchange of energy, such as sunlight shining on a rotating planet, that causes the sequence of events called 'days.'

          The problem is that physics goes from measurement to description and then to predictive application, without fully considering what is being measured. The same issue created the problem of epicycles and a geocentric cosmology. By measuring the action of the various heavenly bodies, ancient cosmologists developed an accurate description of their actions, such that it had predictive powers as to where those bodies might be in the future. This then created the impression that the model and its physical explanation, giant cosmic gearwheels, was true. Any anomalies were simply considered to be due to undiscovered gears and the search would be to figure out where they would be. What was overlooked was simply that the earth is also a body in motion and when Galileo placed it on orbit around the sun, everything else made more sense. Now we treat time as a series of events, because that is the foundation of our intellect, from narration to cause and effect, just as the earth is our physical foundation. But it is the process creating those events which is foundational, yet physics is more focused on the details of ever more precise measurements of events, not stepping back to see the broad picture of what causes them. So motion is ascribed to the present along the timeline, rather than the events through the present.

          The present isn't some dimensionless point on a timeline, because duration doesn't exist external to the present, but is the state of the present between measured events.

          One field of study that further clarifies this distinction between the determined past and the probabilistic future is Complexity theory, with order as the known and chaos as the random. Which is another example of the relationship between statistics and probability.

          Regards, JM

            Hi John,

            Thanks for those comments. I fundamentally agree with your first few paragraphs. I'll have to think about the rest. Certainly some of the ideas in my essay were born from last year's FQXi conference on time and many of these ideas (including those relating to complexity) were discussed at length.

            And I would agree that statistics can be a part of reductionism (in fact I argued that to some extent in my essay in that I include it in the mathematical piece). I'll have to think about the rest. ;)

            Ian

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            Dear Ian,

            Thanks for your deeply original article. According to me,as you feel,reductionism has its own limitations when applied to science as a whole. For example,you can apply reductionism to physics to any limits i.e.,as long as you can reduce all the four fundamental physical forces to one unifying force. But the same thing doesn't work with biology and its related sciences.This is simply because you got to take in to account 'Evolutionary Traits' like the emergence of intelligence,consiousness and the like.So as a result of which you cannot explain the behaviours of more complx organisms like humans on the basis of simpler organisms like amoeba and the like.

            Now coming to the various interpretations of Quantum-Mechanics, I too have my own interpretation of Quantum-Mechanics and it can give some different insights in to the quantum world not given by other versions of QM. For this,please,go through my essay (http://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/1543--Sreenath B N.) and later I give you an equation following from my version of QM and which cannot be derived from other versions of QM.

            Thanking you and wishing you good luck in the essay competition.

            Sreenath.

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            Ian,

            Thank you for the response. I have to say I frequently get negative reaction to this point about time, without much reasoned response. I think a significant part of that is it requires examining the serial foundation on which knowledge rests. As a cardiologist neighbor of mine once responded, when I made this point, "Stop it. You're hurting my head."