The Intelligent Bit by Peter Jackson

Peter

"It's probably my fault calling his rejected 'ether' frame a 'background' frame..."

It does not matter about a correlation between what was said. The point is, as light works in a fundamental way, then if one calibrates its speed with respect to some individualistic frame on each occasion, then the same answer will result. But this is not the speed of observational light. That is a function of the duration incurred from its creation, as the result of an interaction with whatever occurred, to its receipt by anything (but it has to be a sentient organism which can indicate in some way that reception has occurred!).

"about SR from 1905"

Really? When was the first time he mentioned SR? Not that it matters because in 1916 he defined it, and it is different from what was said in 1905. Fundamentally in 1905 he has two states of existence. Light is in vacuo. Everything else is not, because there is length alteration (ie some force is operational). This is why he recognises a potential conflict between the two postulates ("apparently irreconcilable"), and is so concerned with states of inertia. One cannot have a theory where two different 'elements' are in different states of 'being'. So as far as he was concerned, SR resolved this. In SR there is no force at all, in GR there is.

And it is not what he said, intended to do, or thought he did, that matters. That is what he actually did. And he failed to understand how timing worked (which resulted in a superfluous layer thereof) and conflated reality and the light reality (which resulted in him losing a layer of timing). The nearest he got to acknowledging a differentiation was when speaking of "immediate proximity", when he said the times would be the same, which they are not. He can speak of frames of reference , observers, etc, but they do not exist if there is no observational light. Nobody receives that ray of light, and I would certainly not sugget trying to see with lightening!

The point being that this holy grail of trying to resolve rate of change and light speed does not exist, because he never had any light in the first place. All he does is use a constant to calibrate duration and distance. And it happens to be the speed of light. Obviously, he and all the interpretations since, believe this accounts for observation, but it does not. In effect, the difference in the timing of the receipt of light has been shifted to a characteristic of reality itself. This is his best statement on the nature of relativity (forget SR, that is a red herring):

Einstein para 4 section 9 1916

"Events which are simultaneous with reference to the embankment are not simultaneous with respect to the train, and vice versa (relativity of simultaneity). Every reference-body (co-ordinate system) has its own particular time; unless we are told the reference-body to which the statement of time refers, there is no meaning in a statement of the time of an event. Now before the advent of the theory of relativity it had always tacitly been assumed in physics that the statement of time had an absolute significance, ie that it is independent of the state of motion of the body of reference. But we have just seen that this assumption is incompatible with the most natural definition of simultaneity; if we discard this assumption, then the conflict between the law of the propagation of light in vacuo and the principle of relativity (developed in section 7) disappears".

This is rubbish. Events are events, they occur at a time, and at one time only. They do not occur wrt some other event. What does happen is that the timing of receipt of light varies depending on spatial relationships, and if there is relative movement then the apparent rate of change will appear to alter for the recipient from that which occurs.

Paul

Hi Peter,

Good to see you participating in this contest also!

I finally had time to reread your essay. And my original impression has not changed: you did much interesting work but, as probably you yourself already know, the essay would have benefited tremendously from the expository editorial improvement.

Just to take one example, the first sentence of the conclusion:

"An intelligent IQbit with new helical/toroidal freedoms is found hidden in a Sample Space of hierarchical subsets, and an Included Middle between binary 0 and 1, including [math]\Psi^2[/math]".

I'm a mathematician by education but who knows what the "Sample Space of hierarchical subsets, and an Included Middle between binary 0 and 1, including
[math]\Psi^2[/math]" is? ;-)

Now let me move on to your questions in my essay forum.

1. "to hear your views on my suggested division line (proposed by Dirac) between real physical nature and that of numerism."

I assume you refer to this in your essay:

"Dirac's Line then more clearly divides Proper Time (unchanged) from apparent co-ordinate time xi"

I had to go to the reference xi you supplied and found:

"if we add two more time variables t(subscript theta), t(subscript phi) as the quantum hidden variables, i.e., 3-dimensional time (t, t(subscript theta), t(subscript phi) ) instead of 1 dimension, we'll find that the motion of single particle under 3+3 time-space posseses the same qualitative behavior as the particle in quantum physics and the spin of particle can be simply interpreted as the topological property of 3-dimensional time."

I'm sympathetic to a more sophisticated view of time, but I'm very skeptical of approaching time via spatially motivated "dimensions". As you might have seen in my essay, in ETS, the idea of time is treated as embedded in the struct. So I believe that time, as you yourself say, is embedded in "change" and is not a numeric concept.

2. "I've also tackled measurement as a real interaction, trying to define 'detection' as a separate prior interaction and would welcome your views."

Again, I am of the opinion that any interaction is of the structural nature and cannot be adequately addressed in the conventional numeric framework.

3. "I end up offering a 'real' resolution of the EPR paradox so also saw analogies with your last figure. There is 'hidden information' which i have actually found researching Aspects discarded 'anomalous' data!"

Peter, I couldn't figure out what your "resolution" is, but our two approaches to entanglement cannot be that similar, because I'm advocating a *primary* informational reality that 'specifies' the spatial reality.

So, to put it mildly, I'm not the best person at all to comment on your essay, but I wish you good luck in the contest, and most importantly, interesting discussions!

Lev,

You're right. I tried to squeeze too much in again! But I did indeed identify the wavefunction 'psi' twice in the essay, and refer to and explain Born's rule of squaring the wavefunction;('psi'^2)!

I'm confused that you ask if I referred to it. Did you only read the conclusions?

Then, on the "Dirac Line", I not only discussed it at length in the text but also gave the full Dirac quote!! again you seem to only refer to the conclusions, but say at the top you read the essay! The conclusions can't and are not supposed to be a repeat of the whole essay! So I really can't grasp whether you read the text or not, so don't understand your comment.

I can see the Chen paper is a bit advanced for some non physicists, (though I'm strictly included in that group) but had to remove the simple definition due to space. This may indeed be seen as a single 'Proper Time' embedded in each of your 'structs' which may in that way be analogues to 'inertial systems'. I then propose only the emitted ARTIFACTS can be changed, (i.e. Doppler shifted) not 'time' itself. But the "change" is then to the 'apparent' time seen as being from from the OTHER frames clock thus an arbitrary 'co-ordinate time' subject to observer motion. This is a quite new insight.

MEASUREMENT. I'm talking 'optical science' rather than 'theory'. But saw no reason your structs could not be valid.

EPR SOLUTION. I suppose you won't see the solution without a full understanding of the Bell Inequalities themselves and von Neumann's proposal, which I do describe; (a cosine curve AT EACH detector, not just from statistical correlations between them.

Malus' Law simplified says if two donuts meet face to face, then tilting one gives a different contact point round the ring. So if a third donut is at a known angle relative to the first, a relationship can be described subject to that angle. It's a bit more complex, so difficult to precisely explain, but this had not been considered before, so the evidence had been discarded.

It does however seem it's beyond many physicists too! Hey ho.

Best of luck anyway,

Peter

Peter,

"I'm confused that you ask if I referred to it."

I didn't.

"again you seem to only refer to the conclusions,"

Peter, the reference I gave is to pp. 2(bottom)-3 of your essay and not to the conclusion, but you were probably also referring to his quote on p.2.

So I still think that "the essay would have benefited tremendously from the expository editorial improvement".

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Peter, what I found quite useful is a very careful and intensive development of the paper plan/outline, in which the main points are flashed out and very carefully logically *coordinated* wrt each other. Most people don't like doing it but I find such dry/mental run of the basic ideas involved and their interconnections super helpful.

My best wishes to you!

Hello Peter,

I have browsed your viXra paper. Will be reading it in more detail later because there is much to learn from it. For example I had proposed testing SR by LLR in 2009 (see here) and I am gratified that one such experiment has been done which I came across in your references. I have also explored (here)whether dark matter could be the earth bound luminiferous medium. I will be comparing this with your Discrete Spaces.

Many thanks indeed,

Akinbo

*I just wonder why experiments contradicting LLI are covered up. But it's all a matter of time.

Peter,

Hi. I totally agree with you on the need to recognize the difference between physical reality and abstract, in-the-mind reality. And that the rules that apply in the abstract world may not apply in the outside-the-mind world seems blinding obvious, but apparently it isn't to many physicists and mathematicians. It's very good of your essay to point this out and remind people of it. One of the examples that bugs me is that just because an equation has a variable t, for time in it, and in one's mind, one can put in a negative t and the equation still works, this doesn't mean that time can go backwards in the outside-the-mind world.

In regards to A being similar to A instead of identical, I also agree. One can have two instances of the A class of objects, but the two As are separate existent states in separate locations. This may sometimes also apply in the abstract, inside-the-mind domain. For example, one might think another rule would be that A does not equal -A. But, as an example of why this may not be true, one of my views is that the words "something" and "nothing" are just two different ways of describing the same underlying thing, an existent state. We've always distinguished the words "something" and "nothing" as having opposite meanings, like A and -A, but I think that's because we've always been misdefining the word "nothing". If we could think of the situation we previously defined as "nothing" slightly differently, we'd see that it's actually "something". So, even in the abstract domain, A doesn't always equal A, and A may sometimes equal -A. It all depends on the observer's perspective of what A and -A look like to him or her.

The toroid stuff was above my level of knowledge, so I won't comment on that part. But, one interesting coincidence is that helices are very common in biochemistry, too, like in the DNA double helix and in the alpha helix structure of some proteins. We're surrounded by toruses and helices!

Anyways, great essay! I think many of us seem to be hitting on the same idea about the need to dethrone mathematics and re-install the outside-the-mind, physical world as the king of the universe!

Roger

Peter,

Your critique of Aristotelian Logic is right on. Something that has been in the back of my mind for some months now.

Your evaluation of paradox is also quite good; as I'm a believer that even science is not exempt from the saying: "Contradictions do not exist. Whenever you think you are facing a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong."

Like you, I found myself finding many synchronicities between our work; and its always interesting to see how dialectics can mystify the fact that we're pretty much talking about the same things. Very enlightening. One simple question for you pertaining to this:

"An intelligent IQbit with new helical/toroidal freedoms is found hidden in a Sample Space of hierarchical subsets, and an Included Middle between binary 0 and 1"

Basically what we have here is a type of 'fractal-information'?

Uncle Peter

Very happy to see Uncle.

Uncle still like that, there is an essay with analyzing diversity and scale, as well as number of theory was always very much integrated.

At this time, the appeal be to the title "The Intelligent bit" and 6 axioms, it looks like Uncle very seriously with the causal relationships - me too.

I am always appreciated the fussy, meticulous work and scale that Uncle mentioned.

Wish Uncle stay healthy, joyful and successful with his own passion.

Of course, always going to be a high score for Uncle.

Dear Peter,

I have red your essay with interest.

I am not sure that the questions you ask rely on quantum mechanics and the qubit concept. They may be more related to nonlinearity as it arises for instance in the devil's staircase and the Farey tree 0/1< ... 1/3...

Hi Peter,

Our views are similar and only need some fine-tuning here and there. Let me digress a little to some issues bothering me...

1. By what means are the 'plasmaspheres' bound to and dragged by the Earth, Sun, etc. Is it electromagnetic, gravitational or both? Going by the rotational velocities of outlying stars in our galaxy, our solar system appears to be in the middle of the galactic plasmashere. Can our earth then be exempted from interacting with this plasmashere?

2. RE: Pioneer anomalous acceleration, can it also be explained by light travelling faster in far off plasmaspheres than that earth bound? See equation 1 in arXiv:gr-qc/0104064v5. The assumption is that c in earth-bound 'plasmasphere' will be same in far off plasmasphere. Plasmashere is your favorite term, but I prefer 'dark matter' for now.

3. RE: Clausius equation, dE = TdS or dS = dE/T,

which shows by how much entropy, S will change when an amount of energy,E is added to a system at a given temperature. You mentioned somewhere in one of your papers that absolute zero temperature is impossible, supposing in a special circumstance it is, what will be the significance for above equation?

I have not finished reading all the material sent but I will in due course. I have read the Skeptical Intelligencer article. It is similar to the one I sent you (95 years of relativity)

Regards,

Akinbo

Hi Peter,

Excellent analogies and comparisons to substantiate your position that, "Quantum distributions are causally derived to a higher order, yet uncertainty never vanishes."

Although my findings also show that uncertainty never vanishes, it is not due to a new "Law of the Reducing Middle". It is due to 'how' we get uncertainty in the first place. I hope you take the time to review my essay which addresses questions you ask of me in the past. If you do, you will find how we get spin in the first place which then leads to how gravity unifies the strong, weak, and electromagnetic forces - ToE.

Peter,

I have gone through your essay once and I want to go again in order to post my comments on it. Mean while, please, go through my essay and post your invaluable comments on it.

Best of luck,

Sreenath.

Dear Peter,

thanks for your comment, I'm also sorry for the delay inanswering.

I also like your point of view. It is not totally different to my approach. It contains a lot of geometric ideas, in particular the representation of the quantum state as helical wave. I also have helical states (but in the foliation).

I rated your essay also very high but a longer time ago.

Now to your question about granularity: There is an isomorphism between piecewise-linear and smooth 4-manifolds. Therefore the granularity is not important for the results. Of course there is a limit (lower bound) for the number of used cells to describe the 4-manifold but nothing more.

Best wishes

Torsten