Charles,

Great essay. Incisive comprehensive analysis of many salient points, and beautifully written, all the better for it's consistency with and support for my own thesis! Reading a fresh and logical viewpoint was rewarding and encouraging.

You also asked Armin; "Why does the background of a binary distinction require a complex state space such as the Block sphere associated with the qubit?" I hope my essay may help may answer that with Rob Spekkens "missing ingredient".

Beyond the bit and Qbit might there be an IQbit that can hold and tell us more, via non-local hidden variables as an ontological "additional concept"? I suggest in my essay that all properties of quantum theory can then be derived, consistent with von Neumann and von Weizsäcker.

Would it be reasonable to consider a physical entity/particle as a 'signal' occupying an exclusive space and with internal structure?

I was very interested in the Carey view, but again might a 4th system be possible, as a hierarchical recursive set of higher order 'sample spaces'. Reality (as SR) having the sequential structure of propositions in truth function logic.

I was very pleased at the end, as the underlying ontological construction I use suggests that Cartesian systems are inadequately for modelling the evolution of real interactions (motion).

You may need to read mine to fully understand the questions! I very much look forward to your comments and advice. Very well done and thank you for yours.

best wishes

Peter

    Charles,

    What an excellent essay! I found your introspective approach most insightful and well thought out. I too have come to appreciate the beauty and precision of Descartes' Cartesian product as the best tool to use to understand the multiple dichotomies of selection. I agree with your statement. "...but much remains to be understood how the rotation operation is actually cognitively called up in the context of an algebraic system."

    Interestingly enough, without the implementation of the compound function of this tool I would not have been able to understand the rotation operation you speak of. In any case your essay is one that I will want to review again and again when the time allows. I wish you make it to the finals for it is deserving of more consideration.

    Best wishes,

    Manuel

      Thank you, Peter, for your thoughtful appraisal of my essay. I will certainly read yours and reflect upon your comments.

      Sincerely, Charles Card

      Hi Manuel,

      Thank you for giving my essay a careful and thoughtful reading! I look forward to reading yours, and as well as exploring the overall argument that you present, I will be keenly interested to learn how you have dealt with the issue of rotation.

      Sincerely,

      Charles Card

      Dear Charles,

      Thanks for your erudite essay. I enjoyed reading it and I am impressed by your thorough knowledge of the treated theme.

      The title suggest a certain relationship to my essay where I explain gravito-electromagnetism by introducing "information" as the "substance" of gravitational fields.

      When I use the term "information" in that context, I mean that "information carried by informatons" makes these fields what they are: not just mathematical constructions but elements of the natural world.

      May I invite you to go through my essay and to give your opinion about my interpretation of the concept "substance"?

      Sincerly,

      Antoine.

      Dear Charles,

      We are at the end of this essay contest.

      In conclusion, at the question to know if Information is more fundamental than Matter, there is a good reason to answer that Matter is made of an amazing mixture of eInfo and eEnergy, at the same time.

      Matter is thus eInfo made with eEnergy rather than answer it is made with eEnergy and eInfo ; because eInfo is eEnergy, and the one does not go without the other one.

      eEnergy and eInfo are the two basic Principles of the eUniverse. Nothing can exist if it is not eEnergy, and any object is eInfo, and therefore eEnergy.

      And consequently our eReality is eInfo made with eEnergy. And the final verdict is : eReality is virtual, and virtuality is our fundamental eReality.

      Good luck to the winners,

      And see you soon, with good news on this topic, and the Theory of Everything.

      Amazigh H.

      I rated your essay.

      Please visit My essay.

      Late-in-the-Day Thoughts about the Essays I've Read

      Of the nearly two hundred essays submitted to the competition, there seems to be a preponderance of sentiment for the 'Bit-from-It" standpoint, though many excellent essays argue against this stance or advocate for a wider perspective on the whole issue. Joseph Brenner provided an excellent analysis of the various positions that might be taken with the topic, which he subsumes under the categories of 'It-from-Bit', 'Bit-from-It', and 'It-and-Bit'.

      Brenner himself supports the 'Bit-from-It' position of Julian Barbour as stated in his 2011 essay that gave impetus to the present competition. Others such as James Beichler, Sundance Bilson-Thompson, Agung Budiyono, and Olaf Dreyer have presented well-stated arguments that generally align with a 'Bit-from-It' position.

      Various renderings of the contrary position, 'It-from-Bit', have received well-reasoned support from Stephen Anastasi, Paul Borrill, Luigi Foschini, Akinbo Ojo, and Jochen Szangolies. An allied category that was not included in Brenner's analysis is 'It-from-Qubit', and valuable explorations of this general position were undertaken by Giacomo D'Ariano, Philip Gibbs, Michel Planat and Armin Shirazi.

      The category of 'It-and-Bit' displays a great diversity of approaches which can be seen in the works of Mikalai Birukou, Kevin Knuth, Willard Mittelman, Georgina Parry, and Cristinel Stoica,.

      It seems useful to discriminate among the various approaches to 'It-and-Bit' a subcategory that perhaps could be identified as 'meaning circuits', in a sense loosely associated with the phrase by J.A. Wheeler. Essays that reveal aspects of 'meaning circuits' are those of Howard Barnum, Hugh Matlock, Georgina Parry, Armin Shirazi, and in especially that of Alexei Grinbaum.

      Proceeding from a phenomenological stance as developed by Husserl, Grinbaum asserts that the choice to be made of either 'It from Bit' or 'Bit from It' can be supplemented by considering 'It from Bit' and 'Bit from It'. To do this, he presents an 'epistemic loop' by which physics and information are cyclically connected, essentially the same 'loop' as that which Wheeler represented with his 'meaning circuit'. Depending on where one 'cuts' the loop, antecedent and precedent conditions are obtained which support an 'It from Bit' interpretation, or a 'Bit from It' interpretation, or, though not mentioned by Grinbaum, even an 'It from Qubit' interpretation. I'll also point out that depending on where the cut is made, it can be seen as a 'Cartesian cut' between res extensa and res cogitans or as a 'Heisenberg cut' between the quantum system and the observer. The implications of this perspective are enormous for the present It/Bit debate! To quote Grinbaum: "The key to understanding the opposition between IT and BIT is in choosing a vantage point from which OR looks as good as AND. Then this opposition becomes unnecessary: the loop view simply dissolves it." Grinbaum then goes on to point out that this epistemologically circular structure "...is not a logical disaster, rather it is a well-documented property of all foundational studies."

      However, Grinbaum maintains that it is mandatory to cut the loop; he claims that it is "...a logical necessity: it is logically impossible to describe the loop as a whole within one theory." I will argue that in fact it is vital to preserve the loop as a whole and to revise our expectations of what we wish to accomplish by making the cut. In fact, the ongoing It/Bit debate has been sustained for decades by our inability to recognize the consequences that result from making such a cut. As a result, we have been unable to take up the task of studying the properties inherent in the circularity of the loop. Helpful in this regard would be an examination of the role of relations between various elements and aspects of the loop. To a certain extent the importance of the role of relations has already been well stated in the essays of Kevin Knuth, Carlo Rovelli, Cristinel Stoica, and Jochen Szangolies although without application to aspects that clearly arise from 'circularity'. Gary Miller's discussion of the role of patterns, drawn from various historical precedents in mathematics, philosophy, and psychology, provides the clearest hints of all competition submissions on how the holistic analysis of this essential circular structure might be able to proceed.

      In my paper, I outlined Susan Carey's assertion that a 'conceptual leap' is often required in the construction of a new scientific theory. Perhaps moving from a 'linearized' perspective of the structure of a scientific theory to one that is 'circularized' is just one further example of this kind of conceptual change.

        Dear Charles,

        Very interesting essay. I like the way you described Wheeler's "it from bit" and von Weizsacker's ur theory, and the lucid comparisons between the two. Interesting how you connect them with Spekken's additional conceptual ingredient, which you propose should be equated with Susan Carey's "conceptual leap".

        Best regards,

        Cristi Stoica

        Charles,

        Nice review. I agree. But as every'thing' 'moves' relatively I suggest in 'reality' the circle becomes a helix. The correspondence between the helix and the 'plane' then represents the correspondence between 'cardinalised' maths and 'non-linear' nature in a simple 3D+t universe.

        (3D+t would have had inverted commas but Id ran out by then) [so would the Id].

        So if a particle CAN have a structure can we now use it unify QM and relativity please? Are we here enough to take on the massed armies of troglodytes? (I don t think they re as united as we may think).

        Can I propose a new era to take over from "shut up and calculate" (aha! the doubles still work) to "slow down and think". But this time I propose we include the "excluded" middle to make it all coherent.

        Peter

        Dear Charles

        I appreciated (and well rated) your essay, which collects some interesting historical notes about the theme of the competition. In particular about Wheeler and von Weizsaecker's.

        My best regards

        Mauro

        Hi Charles,

        I look forward to having you read and rate my essay. Perhaps after the deadline we can discuss the findings in more detail.

        Best wishes,

        Manuel

        Charles,

        Very good essay, good science and good literature. hope you qualify.

        Mine's just a bit of light parody by comparison.

        Richard

        Dear Charles,

        What a wonderful essay!

        I like these passages: "When faced with the question "What is information?" both Wheeler and von Weizsäcker straddle the Cartesian divide. Firstly, they both characterize information as a substance: For Wheeler, his elementary quantum phenomenon is the "primordial building 'substance'" [1] of physical law, the "ultimate building unit of existence."[10] For von Weizsäcker, "The abstract reconstruction of quantum theory suggests treating information as fundamental, and thus the substance." Information "forms the foundation of the conceptual structure [of quantum theory]" [6] "Substance" in the context of the thought of both men must be understood in the most basic etymological sense as "that which stands below." Secondly, for neither man is the substance of information either exclusively cognitive or physical: For Wheeler, information is "an immaterial source and explanation" of "every item of the physical world." [11] "Information may not be just what we learn about the world. It may be what makes the world."

        May I invite you to comment on my essay Child of Qbit in time. I do believe KQID has done what Wheeler and Weizsäcker are looking for. Of course, I can be wrong but I don't think so. I am a practical person, I do not like to be boastful bu I do need to advocate KQID.

        You gave a beautiful answer to Joe's question. I like it very much and I believe that the more beautiful view has arrived that is KQID but subject to falsification and verification process.

        "We know that, historically, conceptual discontinuities do provoke strong, sometimes even violent reactions from individuals whose views of reality are threatened simply by the contemplation of the possibilities of the discontinuities. Consider as examples in mathematics, the discovery of the incommensurability of the side and diagonal of a square by the Pythagoreans (irrational numbers), the possibility and potency of negative square roots (imaginary numbers),and in physics, the departures from Newtonian common sense and outright paradoxes brought forth by special and general relativity and quantum physics. In each case, a beautiful vision of the world is destroyed, but we have reason to hope, again as we have learned from historical examples, that if we persist, an even more beautiful view of the world will eventually arise in its place. "

        Also your comment: "In my paper, I outlined Susan Carey's assertion that a 'conceptual leap' is often required in the construction of a new scientific theory. Perhaps moving from a 'linearized' perspective of the structure of a scientific theory to one that is 'circularized' is just one further example of this kind of conceptual change." We all can agree that a new paradigm must be a leap of "conceptual change" and imagination.

        Good Luck!

        Please let me know what you think if KQID is the new paradigm that we have been looking for.

        Best wishes,

        Leo KoGuan

          Thanks Charles & best wishes for the contest,

          Antony

          Hi Yuri,

          Yes, in fact I rated your essay a couple of weeks ago now.

          What a fine competition has been! I hope to read a few more essays today then take a break.

          Cheers, Charles

          Thank you, Leo, for your extensive commentary on my essay! I will take the few remaining hours of the competition to read your paper and give it a rating.

          Best luck with your submission and the further development of your thoughts!

          Sincerely,

          Charles Card

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