Alternative Models of Reality

Jose Koshy

Steve Agnew,

I have been busy for some days; we will continue the discussion.

Quoting you, "Cyclotron spectrometers measure the anomalous gyromagnetic ratio to great precision. Why is it anomalous? It is because there are self energy corrections. Therefore QED calculates the gyromagnetic ratio to the same precision as it is measured."

As far as I have understood, Cyclotron spectrometers measure the 'gyro-magnetic ratio' to great precision, not the 'anomalous gyromagnetic ratio' as pointed out by you. The measured value is slightly greater than the theoretical value '2'; and that is the anomaly. QED calculates the difference between the theoretical and experimental values (just the difference, nothing more), and not the gyromagnetic ratio.

To calculate the difference between theoretical and experimental values of gyromagnetic ratio, QED uses the well-known value of Fine structure constant and Feynman diagrams, which is a mathematical tool for approximation in the case of particle- wave duality (ie, in the case of quantum- continuous disparity).

So the fact is that 'the difference between theoretical and experimental values of gyromagnetic ratio' depends on FSC; QED only provides an approximation technique to calculate that difference to a much better value. That is what makes Feynman's stand in this case extremely logical.

Jose P Koshy

Jose Koshy

Steve Agnew,

I posted the above before answering all your points. So I continue. Quoting you, "The Feynman path integrals show the electron interacting with virtual photons from the quantum vacuum to tenth order or so."

The Feynman path integrals are mathematical tools. You can interpret it in different ways depending on the theoretical model you follow. What you have stated is just a model dependent interpretation based on QED; it may or may not be correct.

Quoting you,"the classical electron self energy is infinite and it is only QED renormalization that finally permits a solitary electron calc that represents measurement."

In the classical approach I follow, the electrostatic energy of an electron is finite (=mc2/4); So there is neither any infinity nor any singularity, and it does not require any re-normalization. So QED is not the only method that allows calculation.

Quoting you,"The problem is that alpha is dimensionless and so shows up in a large number of equations and therefore can have a number of equivalent explanations. If the EM field is the electron, alpha shows the effect of the electric field of the electron on the electron."

I fully agree with the first sentence, which is a fact; the second sentence is just a model-dependent interpretation, a wrong one in my opinion.

Jose P Koshy

Jose Koshy

Steve Dufourny,

I have been busy for a week; I saw your comment only today. I know you are also interested in spheres. But I have not gone into the details of your proposed model. Regarding spherical packing, I will give a very brief explanation.

The step by step integration of fundamental particles follows spherical packing; the entities get packed as spheres. The result is that every thing turns out to be nearly spherical; it is like packing spheres in spheres, and so the mathematical constant 'pi' has a crucial role in the integration. My theoretical model describes the step by step integration from fundamental particles to the universe itself; the model is complete in all respects. The universe is nearly spherical and the boundary of the universe is a perfectly Gauzzian spherical surface beyond which the fields does not exist.

Fine structure constant has nothing to do with gravity or electromagnetic force. It is just a packing constant in spherical packing model; a ratio between 'the number of entities in the diameter' and 'the number of entities inside the spherical structure'; FSC is approximately = (42/pi)/1838. It is really dimensionless and mathematical, and does not even require any physical theory. However, electrons, protons and neutrons have internal structures resembling packing of smaller spheres in a larger sphere, and so this constant turns up in different equations.

Jose p Koshy

Steve Dufourny

Hi steve,Mr Koshy,

You know Mr Koshy, my theory is the theory of spherisation with quant and cosm 3D sphères Inside a sphere and here are my équations E=mc²+ml² and mlosV=constant.I have found this universal link more than 10 years ago and my strategy was simple, put this information everywhere on net.And on fqxi I have learnt so more since more than 7 years.I have not published, it is part also of my strategy.It is for the plagiarists and others having seen the relevance of mu humble discovery.I will publish several pappers in the future.With the good international formalism and normalisation.I work on this ,the creation of spherical geometrical algebras.You know Mr Koshy ,at the begining when I have shared this theory,my English was very bad,my generalities not sufficient.But I have irmpoved my knowledges instudying things that I didn't know.Logic I am a nursery man agronomist for plants.I was in geology at university but I have had a coma due to a big epileptic crisis of high bad.But Sciences are all my life, I rank all since the age of 17,I am 41 years old.It is in ranking the mass on the evolutive line time that I found that aprticles were sphères and universe also.See that many foundamentals are spherical.I have nothing agiants people speaking about sphères if they respect my works.I am not on fqxi To laugh in fact.This theory of spherisation is all my life.I am happy so, that people discuss about sphères without parano in fact.In the past I was a little parano due to my net hacked but now I am more quiet.They turn so they are these sphères in fact.Don't hesitate to ask détails I will answer with pleasure.The gravitation is explained but of course I must test and experiment.This gravitation cannot be an emergent electromagnetic force simply.We need a kind of universal gravitational equilibrium, that is why I have inserted this zero absolute and cold.Don't stop to think about sphères,they shall give many relevant results in fact.The spherical volumes and the motions are keys.The series of reccurence can be found.Regards

Steve Dufourny

You know Mr Koshi,if I speak like that ,I have my reasons.I am without job ,isolated at home and with problems due to bad persons in belgium.This theory is all my life.I am conscious of my discovery and I know also the human nature.I am christian, unfortunately a lot of humains forget to see above him before speaking or acting.It is probably the reason why this planet is in this state globally speaking.I must be strong in fact simply and be prudent.My net is hacked, linkedin also and I received odd messages with a kind of psychological game.These persons do not want that I am recognised in fact.Probably a team of plagiarists having profitted of my weak health in the past ,my parano and bad English.I must say that they must kill me to stop me you know.I have suffered a lot on this earth ,and a lot is a weak word,so I don't fear to die,I am already dead you know.So I have explained them that frankly I will not stop,I begin only and if god permits me to live still some years on this sphere,I will focus on my theory and I will assume.If I must utilise the medias and technology of informations, télévisions, I will do it.I cannot accept that people profits of my weak social situation.I am isolated at home but I am going to move, be sure.I have lost all, my parents, I am alone with God and my theory, that is all.And also I will try to pass the message about this industrialisation of our solar system with the liberation of funds by this world bank.We can save this sphere but we must do it quickly.We have reached the limits of our global system.And it is time to see universally and open our souls to this universe, first this solar system.We can give,n water, food, energy, jobs, hopes to the majority of humans.It is just an equilibrium between both of systems,capitalism and socio communism.Both wins.The lobbies of oils and fuels furthermore also win like all in fact because they could utilise these products for this space.On earth we harmonise our ecology and earth.The governments shall be boosted and all wins, anybody looses even the richest.It is a new era and it is an obliged step of evolution.In all case we are at doors of many chaotical exponentials.And sometimes I ask me but what do the high sphères of power? Is it a hidden camera? The solutions exists and they are objective and rational.Wed have not a problem of matter and energy tending to infinity.We have just a problem of social comportments and a problem in the global system.If nothing is made quicly,allk we shall loose all.The richs like the poors.The disorders and chaos are in the short instants,the harmiony is general.But there this planet and its lifes suffer too much.It is due to the number of humans and these limits.The planet has limits ,not this solar system.We could for example make a global project where all governments creating jobs participate.A Wheel with an intrinsic artificila gravity due to rotation.We have the engineers in all countries and the matters to do it.An incredible project for the humanity where all wins withouit exception.We can help the lifes and créations of this planet in inserting this tool, the money correzctly.It is time to change now before the chaos.If trum makes that, it will be the first real universal president to have saved this planet.Let's hope....

Jose Koshy

Dear Steve Dufourny,

You have reasons to speak like that, I understand. You are still young. Try your best, be calm, be happy, the healing always comes from within; save yourself, if everyone saves himself, the planet will be saved. You appear to be kind to everyone; the world will reciprocate and you will reap kindness; in the end, victory will be yours.

Jose p Koshy

Steve Dufourny

I am thanking you Mr Koshy for these words.You know I have been always kind with people.I have lost all due to this kindness and a lot of people have profitted of me.That is why I am isolated at home with my two small dogs, ,them :) they give me a little of love.The kindness does not seem liked on this earth.You imagine Mr Koshy, bad persons in belgium have even destroyed an stock of fuchsias and implied a bakrupcy.I am nursery man and I cannot produce and when I produce, they kill them.Have you already seen that you and my country has not helped me.People said that I was crazy.I have always been kind and christian,I have given all in my life and of course they have taken all.Even my pîano and car, they have taken all the tribunal of my Hainaut wallonia region.I couldn't even go at this tribunal,people sometimes are bad and the evil is the torc,I don't understand in fact Mr Koshy.It is odd this human nature.Is it due a state of consciousness and education ,I don't know, but in all case the humans are tirings sometimes.It is a planet difficult for the kinds.The others profit of this reality.Perhaps it nis time to unite the real universalists altruists of all countries.Thanks for your words still ,it is nice.Take care and best regards from belgium.

Bala Subramanian

Time as well as mathematics (numbers) is an outcome of one or more relationship(s).The complexity of measurement depends on the type of objects we choose to measure with. Reality and it's absence are concurrent.

Steve Agnew

There seems to be some question about the nature of the fine structure constant, alpha. To be sure, just like quantum phase, alpha is an very important quantum issue that has no classical meaning.

The gyromagnetic ratio in simple QM is 2.0. The measured gyromagnetic ratio with a cyclotron is ge = 2.0023193042617(15) and the difference between the measurement and the simple 2.0 is called the anomalous gyromagnetic ratio, ga. This is a measured constant that is due to the electron self energy of quantum electrodynamics, QED. By using QED methods, the anomaly defines the fine structure constant very well as the infinite series 1 / alpha = 1 / (ga pi) = 0.00475...(ga pi)2 ...

Any reasonable geometric solid can represent this infinite series and therefore explain the self energy of the electron. The point is that QED already does this really well and so why fight it?

Steve Dufourny

I agree steve.This constant and the works of Feynman have permitted to better encircle this alpha.But it is about the fact that it is not really a constant when we fractalise by recurrence.You think that it is a real constant you steve ?when we analyse the locality and this time in fact.It is not about the stability of matters in the space time but about a different gravitation considering the multiverses if it exists.See the spherical volumes.Perhaps that that could permit to better rank our cosmos in fact.If the central cosm singularity is not the only one and that we have different relativistic and gravitational laws so alpha is different just due to fact that we enter in an other sphere with its own singularity implying rules and properties to matter energy.It is fascinating seen like that.We could make the bridges between these BHs the matters baryonic and not baryonic in fact.But of course for our universal sphere it is alpha indeed.You see steve :)

Steve Dufourny

But it will be difficult .Already our matter not baryonic we have difficulties to understand them and see or check them.So in logic the others alphas wowww we have probably the same problme that our BHs and dark matter, we do not see them.So if we want to see an other electromagnetism in an other sphere wowww it seems very difficult.But the first step after all is this gravitation Inside our universe.What a big puzzle.The fact to insiert multiverses and if I link with multispheres and the spherical volumes for the singularities wowwww the combinations are infinite and there the real universal centyral sphere becomes very intriguing when we correlate with god because this sphere so ntends to infinity and its volumes is very important more than our own singularity cosmological and its main gravitational informations.It is very fascinating considering God and also the fact that each so we have our own universe also because that tends to infinity at all scales there you imagine so ? the central spher it is God steve And all turns around .....

Steve Dufourny

But about alpha it is indeed fascinating considering the electric charges,the planck constant.What I find relevant is also the fact we have électrons but also prtons withan opposite charge.If we consider simply that gravitation turns in opposite sense and that it is this gravitation with these quantum BHs which answer for this sense ,that becomes relevant steve if we insert the spherical volumes and if we pass above our planck scale at 10-35m ,a paradox that I have difficulties, it is that this planck scale decreases but not these spherical volumes considering the universal serie.It is odd.Perhaps simply that we must rethought this planck scale for this gravitation simply.Sometimes the simplicity is relevant.If l in my equation and the spherical volumes are correct.It can permits to give answers.But I have not the skillings to compute and simulate the good reccurent methods me.In logic we could find very relevant roads.l instead of c ,Planck scale rethought and spherical volumes more sense of rotations, velocities orbital, spinal,and linear ,more angles also perhaps which could permit also to better understand what is a real encoding iof evolution.In all case it is fascinating all this.

kurt stocklmeir

for years I have talked about this - light going through the universe has a decrease of energy because the ether absorbs energy from light when there is not a lot of gravity like between galaxies - I like vixra group for physics and any thing - people can talk about their theories - go to vixra - there will be a picture that looks a little like 3 people

Kurt Stocklmeir

Steve Dufourny

Intresting vixra,I have seen so many works with sphères now, I am happy that people focus on sphères.Fortunately that fqxi exists and the net,I have put my theory of spherisation with quantum 3D sphères and cosm 3D sphères in the SPHERE more than 10 years ago.Fortunately that this transparence exists.My styrategy was simple, put everywhere these informations,like that it is well encoded with the dates.I am thanking FQXI for that.They make a wonderful Job and this transparence is a foundamental.10 years for fqxi, about 10 11 for my theory, it is our birthday :) If I have imrpoved my works and that I found my equation and this gravitation, it is due to them,FQXI, in 7 years I have learnt so much here.I beleive that FQXI is the first real transparent and securised Platform for theoretical physics.Their algorythms are strongs like theor hard wares, it is the most important.A papper published is one thing, the dates and the transparence an other .

Jose Koshy

Steve Agnew,

Quoting you, "The gyromagnetic ratio in simple QM is 2.0. The measured gyromagnetic ratio with a cyclotron is ge = 2.0023193042617(15) and the difference between the measurement and the simple 2.0 is called the anomalous gyromagnetic ratio, ga". This much I agree.

Again quoting you, "This is a measured constant". Here I differ. How can ga be a measured constant? It is just the difference between theoretical value and measured value; it is not directly measured. Is it directly measured? Either you got it wrong or I am unaware of the direct measurement of the ga.

Again quoting, "that is due to the electron self energy of quantum electrodynamics, QED". You say that ga is due to electron self energy. Maybe. However that is just an explanation and so I do not agree with it.

I do fully agree with the mathematical relation between Fine Structure Constant and ga. The relation exists because Fine structure constant, in my opinion, is a packing constant (a ratio between diameter and mass both expressed in terms of the number of constituents). However I have not derived the relation.

Why fight QED, you ask me. As a theoretical model, QED is incomplete. It is just an offshoot of QM, which itself is incomplete. If QM gives an overall model covering the particles and the large-scale structures, then we can say it is a 'complete model', even if it does not explain everything. But unfortunately, it can explain only things at quantum level. My theory, on the other hand, gives an overall picture, and so is a complete theory. The opposition to QM comes from this fact.

Jose P Koshy

Steve Dufourny

Hi Mr Koshi,Steve,

Mr Koshi incomplete but correct in its general reasonings.That said if the quantum gravity this weakest force is not an emergent electromagnetic force,so the problem is in an other analyse which is it seems to me not baryonic nor relativistic,nor electrmagnetic thermodynamical photonic in fact in logic.I have difficulties to understand why a lot of scientists insist only on photons encoded if I can say on this line time,evolutive of 13,7billions years.See also that this analyse of big bang is electromagnetic photonic also.See also that mass is calculated with this matter baryonic and E=mc².Now insert my humble reasoning with E=mc²+ml² Now you see that if the standard model is encircled by this gravitation correlated with a cold dzark matter not baryonic?If this matter not baryonic exists, so it produce by something.Apparently it is not the stars.I see only one solution, The Supermassibe BHs.That implies that in fact we must superimpose this gravitation and even we must recalculate our real mass and age.That implies a road towards this entire infinite entropy and also towards a kind of eternity considering the mind body soul matter problem when we consider the physical mathematical singularities, the main central gravitational codes of evolution encoding photons and spherons.You can see easily that quantum gravitation does not need nor alpha nor electromagnetic forces simply.The luminiferous aether is just a photonic sphere aged of 13,7 billions of years and with a mass in increasing due to these encodings also photonic.Perhaps it is time to correlate with this gravitation.The aether cannot be luminiferous and this quantum gravitation also cannot be linked with this electromagnetic system.The particles of gravitation are necessary for many reasons.We had a problem of equivalence with this weakest force tending to infinity like our entropy in fact.It is solved when we consider this dark matter cold and this zero absolute checking these photons.See that if the quantum BHs and BHs are the secret with these particles produced,the spherons,and that l is speeder than c ,we have a gravitational sphere of spherons more important than our photonic sphere.It seems evident and essential to insert this equilibrium.The question that I ask me is if the zero is not the answer for the cold balancing this thermo of our standard model.So what is this force tending to infinity? But in logic this zero absolute and its fractalisation is the answer.The cold and heat are more than we can imagine,the combinations are infinite when the spherical volumes are inserted.All the best

Steve Agnew

Since you agree that a precision cyclotrom measures the gyromagnetic ratio, ge, just use ge in the series for alpha instead of the anomaly. The series is

alpha = 1/(ga pi) - 0.00475...1/(ga pi)2 ...

which now becomes

alpha = 1/((ge/2-1) pi) - 0.00475...1/((ge/2-1) pi)2 ...

Somehow I still do not think you will be happy, but QED does work very well in predicting the value of alpha. The electron field acts on itself or rather acts on the vacuum virtual oscillators in the QED calc.

By the way, it is actually the aether of the spinning electron acting on the aether of the universe. It is the decay of aether along with the growth of force that actually drives the logic of QED.

kurt stocklmeir

Steve I like fqxi. I like a lot of pages that let people talk about their theories. I like the group for any thing on vixra because I can say things that are not associated with physics.

Kurt Stocklmeir

Steve Dufourny

Hello Mr Stocklmeir, Vixra seems transparent ,democratic and the freedom is respected, it is the most important.This net is a big revolution permitting intriguing new universal interactions.The acceleration is a reality and it is well like that.All the best

Steven Andresen

James

I am interested to know how your considerations have developed these past few days?

I have been giving thought towards determining a non arbitrary value for C, so that we can base our formula describing galaxy motions on real values.

I note your earlier comments concerning the difficulties of knowing this value, because its not just a case of the value of C varying, but also relative perception of an observer or detector varies as well. So if C slows, and time for an observer slows, then the observer might not be capable of determining a variation in C. It might always appear to be unchanged.

Do you feel you have made any conceptual progress, or changed your mind about anything in particular? How do you feel about this avenue of inquiry?

We should think about starting a new thread?

Steve

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