John M.

Where you see the measurement of time to be commensurate with action is generally the standard operational paradigm; a nanosecond is about the length of your forearm. But it being operational, introduces the uncertainty principle with its conjunctive pairs. And that's mathematic. To mathematically reduce to a first principle sans uncertainty, Time might be equitable with energy density.

I don't want to get into the math, free exchange of ideas is a good and wonderful thing, but math is real product and I'd have to live in Amsterdam or Boulder to get so stupid I'd give back stuff I never stole.

Charlie lives! jrc

Thanks so much for the references. The paper Time from quantum entanglement... was very interesting, also quite technical, but I liked that inclusion of clocks. Any discussion of time that does not include clocks is not really a discussion about time.

The paper involves two time dimensions as rest and moving frame clocks and the corresponding Hamiltonians use optical rotation as a nice little clock. Since time is all about the two dimensions that clocks measure, it is ironic that the conclusion is that there is no time dimension for reality, only spatial dimensions.

I completely agree that it is the four-space of GR that keeps gravity and charge forces from unification, and it is very likely that spatial clocks can keep time without the extra dimension of time...but it is also true that clocks do not need space to tell time.

Clocks only need matter and action and so time can be two of the dimensions from which space emerges. Clocks necessarily have two dimensions; a period or tick rate and a decay of the period over time. The polarization clock ticks with the period of the light frequency, but that is somewhat lost in this paper. Moreover, the decay of the clock is set by the stability of the period over time, also a point that the paper does not cover, the Anderson deviation.

The paper does do a nice job with entanglement and the rest and moving clocks can therefore interfere with each other, but the key to unification is with the two dimensions of time and not with space at all. Note that you talk about time travel because you think of time like space. Since time is simply a way to know objects are separate from each other, time travel has no meaning without an a priori and implicit assumption of space.

A space that emerges from the action of objects in time means that there is no sense to the notion of a journey back in time and the decay of each clock's period points the direction of time. Time is primal, not space...

John C,

But I have to live in a world where I can't time travel through wormholes along the fourth dimension.

Math is a tool to describe this reality, not an escape to another.

Regards,

John M

Merryman,

Both math and reality seem to escape you, judging from the photograph made by Wolfgang Pauli and Richard Feynman. JR

John C,

Presumably it is not of multiverses.

Regards,

John M

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Quote from article:"If you have a million dollars, you are a million times more likely to get an extra dollar than someone who only has one dollar, according to this model." That is because when you have a network in which one node has many connections, if another node enters the network, it is highly likely that this new node will also connect to a highly connected node.

My response: Yes, that is correct.

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Another quote from the article: However, microscopic processes are time symmetric--collisions between atoms or chemical reactions--can occur backwards or forwards.

My response: Reality is time symmetric.

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A misinformed sciforums.com member said:

The grandfather paradox is nonsense because time is a measure of local motion. It isn't something we move or travel through.

My response: Of course it is. How else can we get from one place to another? Time travel is demonstrated mathematically by the existence of closed time-like curves

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Reality is reversed in time symmetry.

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A sciforums member wrote:

when systems join to cross into/over. there's a " drift " of energy moving with the entity from one system to another, for a brief moment. the signature.

as you know[hopefully], temp is nothing but an energy level. for a moment as crossing into another system, there's an energy buildup [disturbance that creates the moment of equilibrium][like a chemical reaction,stress on the system moves the energy to a less stressful moment,equilibrium.].. the signature.

that's all this time symmetry is, nothing more.

as for replacing the former, i have no clue what you mean.

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Reality is an energy system transferring from one moment to another? Also, are you saying time is not real?

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Emergence then, is the point(s) at which complex networks at the quantum level transition to macro systems identifiable as part of the classical, macro world. As network complexity increases, we arrive at the level we call reality where probabilistic quantum events in toto, appear deterministic and measurable, i.e. real.

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Fractals I am convinced are the key to understanding QM and the geometry of the universe, not to mention our reality.

I am an economist and was drawn to fractals for their behaviour being similar to economic system models. This has lead me to QM. An isolated fractal behaves (as I have shown in my blog) as QM is described.It shows wave particle duality; am more.

I have inverted the fractal to show what would be observed if measured/ observation. I am convinced from this experimentthe universe is a fractal : it grows at an accelerating rate, and demonstrates Hubble's Law.

I am an amateur and am currently writing up my insights from from the fractal which I first shared on my blog. There are many. I would very much like to discuss my findings.

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Fractals I am convinced are the key to understanding QM and the geometry of the universe, not to mention our reality.

I am an economist and was drawn to fractals for their behaviour being similar to economic system models. This has lead me to QM. An isolated fractal behaves (as I have shown in my blog) as QM is described.It shows wave particle duality; am more.

I have inverted the fractal to show what would be observed if measured/ observation. I am convinced from this experimentthe universe is a fractal : it grows at an accelerating rate, and demonstrates Hubble's Law.

I am an amateur and am currently writing up my insights from from the fractal which I first shared on my blog. There are many. I would very much like to discuss my findings.

    Aye aye Captain..

    Certainly fractals have much to teach us, about the nature of the universe and natural law. I bookmarked your blog for later reference.

    Regards,

    Jonathan

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    The emergence of reality fundamentally and necessarily involves our growth and becoming other than we are.

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    Spacetime is a sytem that we suppose consists of one time dimension and three space dimensions. I wonder whether space dimensions are pure space dimensions (they do not incorporate time as well). In other words by Universe's expansion (and hence space expansion) time may HAS to follow the direction it follows.

    For example: 1. if T=t and S=t+s, where T,S are the real time and space and t,s are the measured time and space then 2. t=S-s always positive if S>s (SPACE MEASURED IS SMALLER THAN THE REAL SPACE). Is it?

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