Sorry for my errors in English,I would say the quantum gravity tending to infinity has a problem of equivalence.

all my reasoning implies that photons are not the main primordial informations, but spherons yes when we consider that a photon is a spheron coded with its intrinsic comportments of equilibriums of this heat by this cold.What I find relevant is thefact to consider the spherons like a serie of spherical volumes from the central biggest spherical volume.A primordial serie appears in logic, this serie is p^robably the same than our cosmological serie in its pure finite serie, its pure serie of uniquenss,between 1 and x.See that in this logic ,the gravitation is the real chief orchestra because this gravity encodes gravity and that ourn standard model is, just like a fuel,a system of electromagntic photonic dynamics simply.

All the best

Steve, thank you for the feedback. I'm curious about the "l" in your energy equation ml2. I imagine it cannot be length (l) because the units would not align for energy. I'm curious to learn more. On a separate note, my colleagues and I also have an upcoming paper on gravity. We didn't address it in this essay for FQXi, but given your comments on quantum gravity, I would be happy to share it with you offline if you would like to exchange works and see if there is any similarity.

You are welcome Mr Yee,

If you want,I will be happy,with pleasure,I search answers :) and I like study news ideas and works about this weakest quant force.The paradox is that this force is in the same time the strongest when we consider that this standard model is encircled by this cold gravitation if I can say.In fact I consider even that a photon is a spheron coded ,like if this thermo was coded by this gravity implying electromagnetic and thermodynamical properties.I search a kind of primordial serie of spherical volumes.This quantum serie in its uniqueness like a spheron is the same number than our cosmological serie ,from 1 the central singularity sothe serie is between 1 and x in logic .I have superimposed to our standard model particles encoded like photons but with l the spherons with force weaker than photons and electromagnetims.I have also inserted a seri of quantum BHs with a central sphere for the singularity,gravitational, and so these forces them are stronger than our quarks gluons nuclear forces.l is proportional witht the spherical volumes where they are produced.So we have a superimposing of gravitational aethers Inside the gravitational aether.the luminiferous aeter is Inside and is jus a photonic sphere.My second equation mlosV=constant must be improved but we have the 3 motions of 3D sphères s spinal velocity,o orbital velocity, l linear velocity,V volume and m mass.I don't know if the o and s must be considered.

l is the the linear velocity of particles of gravitation,the dark matter,cold, the spherons.l is not constant and these particles and correlated wacves are speeder than c.l is simply their linear velocity like c but at the difference that l is proportional with the supermassive BHs for exmaple in sphericzal volume.That is why l tends to infinity like this gravity and that aethjer is gravitational from the central cosm singularity,the biggest spherical volumes,the biggest BHs.So more a BH is important in volumes, speeder is the particles produced.Hope that helps :)

all the best,

Jeff,

This finding is very interesting and may well hold some clues to the underlying structure of the particles in terms of WSM (Wave Structure of Matter).

It would have been better, though, if you had explained how this work fits into the topic of the essay "Wandering Towards a Goal" and how goal oriented structures emerge. As I pointed out in my essay the formation of particles is the most important reason that allows goal oriented structures to emerge in the Universe, so you should discuss this too, to show how your work fits into the essay topic.

Regards,

Declan Traill

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    Yes, fair point about the essay topic of "Wandering Towards a Goal". Since the essay is already submitted, it will be addressed here in the comments section.

    We took the topic literally to establish a goal of understanding the basic particles which constitute the atoms and molecules of complex systems. Today, it seems that we've lost sight of a goal that simplifies the structure of particles. Instead, we spend billions of dollars to find new particles, and award Nobel prizes, without recognition that nature may not be as complex as we make it seem to be.

    "Wandering towards a goal" takes us off the path of complexity to search for simplicity. Our analogy that we raised was the time period in the 1800s when atoms where simplified to a nuclear structure based on proton count. In our belief, we need a similar goal now to simplify particles. As the essay topic suggests, mathematical laws give rise to these intentions, and we have used simple math to take the first step that particles may indeed be simpler than current literature has us believe today.

    study binding energy/ Where is it assigned? The before event or the later event,

    Jeff

    I see that you have joined the CNPS COMMUNITY page. However, CNPS has 4 pages and COMMUNITY is not very interesting. The main page is www.naturalphilosophy.org and it has links to DATABASE and FORUM.

    Regards ____________________ John-Erik

      John-Erik,

      Thanks for the tip. I'll join the other one.

      Jeff

      sorry not biggest spherical volume with s and BHs with s for the central sphere, the cosmological singularity.I write too quickly,sorry

      This center seems conneted with all quantum singularities, the main central quantm BHs.Intriguing in a whole point of vue.

      Dear Jeff Yee,

      Thank you for the intelligent observations and deductions you (and the co-authors of course) made in the essay.

      The perceptions you made and its conclusions are very insightfull.

      In my essay " The Purpose of Life" I am searching for the origin of our consciousness that is the cause of all our thinking about past events (facts ?).

      It is of course quite a different approach as yours but I hope that you will anyhow find some time to read and or rate it.

      best regards

      Wilhelmus de Wilde

        I'd be happy to give it a read... thanks for bringing it to our attention, and appreciate the comment on ours.

        Hello also Dr Zhu,tell hello also to Dr Zhou,you ahev pondered a general relevant papper.

        Indeed this forum is wonderful the first innovant transparent Platform of theoretical physics, revolutionary for the global sciences community.China nd USA speaking together I like :) because universalism and altruism are the torchs of truth after all.China and USA even have the keys in hands to harmonise this planet.They can together reasure this sphere earth.Tell it to government :) we liberate the funds for this industrialisation of our solar system, and all wins without exception.Hope that USA CHINA G20 ONU WORLD BANK are conbscient in the high sphères of power that it is time to do it before the adds of several chaotical expoentials.....It is now in fact that it must be made.

        Best

        Thank you for your comment. This is indeed a good opportunity for China and the US to work together. :)

        Dear Jeff, I'm sorry for the delay!

        I shortly read you essay. The main question is: why one needs the linear function of the mass vs particle number? The last one looks like artificial value since as far as we know that the dynamical nature of the inertial mass is unknown. I try to find the mass of electron but the work is not finished. Are you really hope to find something in a tricky way without deep understanding?

        Best regards,

        Peter

        Your comment about my essay Proton Three Plane Immersion Connection Theory concerning "1/4" non conservation. My email fdmooredds@cox.net

        Send your gravity paper as soon as possible. Gratefully yours Francis Duane Moore

          Hi Jeff, Have you studied the "mass defect" in binding energy for values above Z72 Thanks Francis Duane Moore

          You are welcome,I hope of all my heart.That will reasure this planet.

          All the best :)

          Francis, no, haven't studied it yet and am currently traveling at the moment. After I return home will try to tackle this one. Regarding the gravity paper, will send to your email now.

          Dear Jeff et.all

          I have to say, based on our long lasting cooperation, therefore having a first hand knowledge of your discoveries yous is the best. It introduces the readers to groundbreaking and sweepings discovery. Thanks.

          Respectfully Dr.Karoly Kehrer

          5 days later

          Hi Jeff and associates,

          Your paper demonstrated how mathematical thinking has some power to it. I like your idea of making a periodic chart of particles. You point to the neutrino as being the "proton" of the periodic table of particles.

          My work also points to the neutrino as being the fundamental building block of particles (and photons). Some of what I have done may give you a boost in your work. Check out my website www.digitalwavetheory.com

          Congratulations on your creative push to the future!

          Don Limuti