Vladimir,

There are a lot of Vladimirs in this contest:-)

This is an interesting essay. You present many novel ideas, perhaps even too many for a single essay. I suspect you could go into greater detail and make 3 or 4 essays from this subject matter. This is not a bad thing. It simply means you are very enthusiastic about your work.

Some of your ideas I am agreeable with. Some of the ideas I am less clear about.

The third paragraph of the Introduction clearly states the many difficulties that plague Physics in its present form.

I too am a believer that the vacuum is some type of medium ... I'm simply less clear regarding what its properties must be. I do think there is a scalar term present such as h/(2*pi) that accounts for vacuum energy and the lowest energy level of the electron.

You mention photons travelling for billions of years and suggest that they lose energy to the vacuum. This idea is frequently refered to as "tired light" ... i.e., the light is tired because it has lost energy due to the distance and time it has traveled. I'm less clear regarding this since I know of no evidence that the vacuum has any kind of viscosity. Even if the argument is made that there is a small amount of hydrogen present in interstellar and intergalactic space, it would not result in viscosity. It would behave like an extremely rarefied gas. Aerospace engineers have to deal with this type of analysis for airplanes that fly very high ... also for spacecraft in the upper atmosphere.

I like your idea of resonance and vortices. If you watch a fire, you will see lots of tiny spinning vortices in the flames. They flitter in an out pretty fast but sometimes they are stable. I think that nature prefers structures that are stable and this is one such possibility.

I am not familiar with the Mathieu Equation. You reference it several times.

A soliton is a very stable wave that does not interact with other waves. It does not act like a heat pump or any such analogy. Trust me on this. I'm a chemical engineer and we know heat pumps.

There is a way of eliminating some of the mathematical singularities that you mention. Milo Wolff did so in his Wave Structure of Matter theory. The essence is that the wave-function is a solution to the spherical wave equation and that solution is of the form (1/r)*sin(r). At r = 0, the value is one.

I like your analogy between gravity and the Lorentz Force. I have thought along that line of reasoning myself although I attribute it to a blend of absolute motion and relative motion. For me, the sun's motion through space creates the gravitation that keeps the planets and such in their orbits. This is what I mean by so many ideas .... just the idea of Lorentz type gravity could be a whole essay:-)

I have never thought about the speed of gravity as you describe. I do not think gravity propagates at light speed as is required by General Relativity. This is supported by the fact that orbit calculations are performed using the actual position of objects rather than the apparent position based upon light speed.

I've already written a lengthy response to your essay and I could easily go one. Let me simply close by stating that you have many novel and useful ideas that can be further developed. Just remember Occam's Razor ... The simplest idea is the best idea, but it must explain all that is observed. Well done!!

Best Regards and Good Luck,

Gary Simpson

Vladimir,

BTW, I rated your essay after a cursory reading several weeks ago ... The score was between a 5 and 10 ... I don't want to tell you too much because people should not trade votes.

Best Regards and Good Luck,

Gary Simpson

Dear Vladimir Nikolaevich,

First of all I'd like to notice that it's very worthy work deserving undoubtedly high score.

I've found a lot of interesting and deep thoughts in your essay, some of which correspond to my approach in an explanation of space, time, a matter etc. With some I don't agree. For example I have other conception about the electron structuring or atom formation. Nevertheless, I've found in you more an adherent than the opponent.

I wish you the further creative successes!

Vladimir Rodin

http://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/2752

Dear Dr. Vladimir Nikolaevich Fedorov,

As you said "The physical vacuum medium - there is the material, non-linear, multi-level and fractal medium." I agree with it, but to my opinion, it is that

Ultimate foundation of the nature of the large scale structure of the Universe is that elementary particles or a physical vacuum medium?

I think, you should to define it in more detail.

If someone consider whether the foundation of the nature is a physical vacuum medium or an elementary particle, it must be defined more definitely, as close as possible to the reality of nature.

Of course, it is a big question.

"Law of gravity is valid only near the surfaces of celestial bodies of the solar system", but it is impossible to be definable at plank scale and around supermassive black holes in the center of many galaxies, unless an exact mechanism of gravitational interaction is discovered.

As taking into consideration the electron-positron annihilation and the de Broglie wave, your hypothetical helicoidal vortex ring and vortex ball rotating may cause to produce elementary particles and virtual particles. But, I think that there a cause to generate the vortices is that a "critical flow speed" of the physical vacuum medium. In other words, the speed of light may become a key property for this.

"Unfounded generalizations and frequency of parametric resonance" is very interesting for me, while associating with an equilibrium condition and being without energy dissipation.

For that "The medium of physical vacuum, together with the earth, is moving at a speed in spherical gravisphere of sun", I think "The medium of physical vacuum, together with the earth" may take a place only within the Hill sphere.

With Best Regards,

Ch.Bayarsaikhan

Dear Vladimir Rodin,

Thank you for your kind words.

With great interest I read your essay.

Your essay allowed to consider us like-minded people.

I'm going to write a comment on your work in your forum thread.

I wish you success in the contest.

Kind regards,

Vladimir Fedorov

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Dear Gary,

Thank you very much for a very large and interesting comment in my forum thread. I do not think that now there is time for lengthy discussions, time will come in the middle of April.

Nevertheless, I will try to briefly answer the questions that have arisen with you.

With "tired light" is associated one of my recommended research principles is associated with the impossibility of abstract and ideal properties of matter and fields. I can imagine that photons move exactly at the speed of light, hence, they interact with the physical vacuum. This interaction is necessarily associated with energy dissipation. But how photons carry real energy for many billions of years without losses, I can not imagine it. And this question is individual and connected with subjectivity. Whether the researcher allows supernatural properties of matter and fields or not, everyone should answer this question himself. I do not insist, but it is always necessary to think, but are there analogs to this phenomenons?

«I too am a believer that the vacuum is some type of medium ... I'm simply less clear regarding what its properties must be.»

In my essay I tried to show that the medium is multilevel, fractal, nonlinear and consists of electron-positron pairs and their de Broglie waves, including waves formed on the harmonics of the Compton waves of an electron, (analogous in structure to the electron), from pairs of d quarks and their de Broglie waves, from pairs of preons and their de Broglie waves, etc.

The de Broglie waves have energy, mass, and they are connected with their Compton waves. They are designed to create conditions for the stability of Compton waves. The waves of de Broglie form other waves of de Broglie, etc. If Compton waves are limiting elements and are stable, then de Broglie waves are dynamic and much more often change their parameters by means of quantum parametric resonance.

Thus, the medium of the physical vacuum, first of all, is a dynamic nonlinear medium that easily changes phase state of its elements.

The Mathieu equation is used to solve parametric resonance problems in classical mechanics, the energy dissipation function is always involved in it and nonlinear properties of elements or medium participate.

In radio engineering, using the Mathieu equation, a parametric generator is calculated. The values of the Mathieu equation can be obtained by substituting the solution in the form of an expansion in the Fourier series. I.e. the elements of the medium, in the form of de Broglie waves, are deterministic elements.

The condition for the formation of self-organizing solitons is the nonlinear properties of the medium of a physical vacuum with high-Q elements. Solitons can interact through their de Broglie waves only if the frequencies coincide or are close to the harmonics and subharmonics of quantum parametric resonance. Therefore, chemical bonds are so selective, and self-organizing structures of matter are repeated.

Another very important property is the high rigidity of the medium of the physical vacuum and the speed of propagation of interaction in each level of matter. For example, photons are spiral elements from quarks. A pair of spiral elements of the quark matter level is screwed into the medium of the physical vacuum and moves in equilibrium in the de Broglie's own wave of elasticity, like a warp motor. This is analogous to the pairs of Cooper electrons moving in eddy currents in equilibrium in the state of superconductivity, but 43.6 times slower than the speed of light, because they are elements of a higher level of matter and have 137 times the cross section of interaction.

«I have never thought about the speed of gravity as you describe. I do not think gravity propagates at light speed»

My statements about the speed of gravity are based on my own experiment. At the end of my essay, I gave the results of an experiment on recording the orbital toroidal gravitational wave of the Earth. The signal of the gravitational wave is very distorted, but, nevertheless, the period of 52 minutes of the action of the Earth's orbital gravitational wave is viewed. This means that the speed of propagation of the main gravitational wave of the quark matter level, along the Earth's orbit, is equal to the speed of light.

In addition, at the maximum intensity of the variations, often, the lines become wide. If the scale is stretched, then an oscillatory process is observed with a period of about 72 seconds. In my work «Deterministic gravitational waves» , reference [20] gives the corresponding spectra of these oscillatory processes. From these my experiments it follows that there is a second gravitational wave in the Earth's orbit of the preon level of matter, which has a propagation velocity 43.6 times faster of the speed of light. I have no doubt that in this way it is possible to register gravitational waves of many levels of the fractal matter.

I'm sorry that I can not explain briefly.

I found a strange phenomenon, as soon as my rating rises, then immediately it falls sharply. Therefore, I am convinced that it is necessary to give grades at the last moment.

I wish you success in the contest.

Kind regards,

Vladimir

Dear Bayarsaikhan,

Thank you very much for comment to my essay.

«but to my opinion, it is that Ultimate foundation of the nature of the large scale structure of the Universe is that elementary particles or a physical vacuum medium?»

The separation of matter on the medium of the physical vacuum and a particle is conditional. On the one hand, the medium of the physical vacuum consists of particles. On the other hand, all particles consist of elements of the medium of the physical vacuum. On the third side, both particles and atoms, and stars, and quasars are elements of the medium of a physical vacuum of different levels of fractal matter.

For example, the density of the atomless medium of a physical vacuum on the surface of the Sun is close to the maximum. In the chromosphere of the Sun, conditions are created with the help of natural particle accelerators (spicules, toroidal gravitational waves from limiting elements with a radius of about 18,000 km), to form Hydrogen atoms from the elements of the medium of the physical vacuum.

In each level of matter, there are limiting elements that determine the gravitational shell of separation of levels of fractal matter. Planetary systems of all levels are nested into each other like nesting dolls.

For example, the electron and the positron are the limiting elements of the electronic level of matter, their size determines the boundary of the planetary system of the atomic nucleus (the quark matter level) and of the planetary system of electron shells of atoms (on the electronic level of matter).

Another example is the largest limiting element, a macro structure available for observation, which determines the size of large galaxies and quasars. For example, the radius of such the limiting element is about one third of the distance to Andromeda. Those. Our galaxy (with a lot of galaxies-satellites) and Andromeda are interconnected and are analogous to the nucleus of the helium atom, or to alpha particle in the complex nucleus.

Cells with r=152 million ly in the cellular structure of the Universe are in 137 times larger in size than the largest limiting element of the observed structure and is analogous to the outer electron shell of the atom. Then the entire universe visible to us is an analog of a molecule from a set of atoms.

Thus, this "Of course, it is a big question" seems to me a settled question. All the elements of the medium of the physical vacuum of all levels of matter are strictly determined and are confirmed by investigation from quarks to the macro structure of the universe. More details can be found in my article "Deterministic Gravitational Waves" in Section 5.

«"Law of gravity is valid only near the surfaces of celestial bodies of the solar system", but it is impossible to be definable at plank scale and around supermassive black holes in the center of many galaxies, unless an exact mechanism of gravitational interaction is discovered.»

"The exact mechanism of gravitational interaction" is defined in my example on the interaction of satellites of Saturn. This interaction mechanism is associated with energy circulation in toroidal gravitational waves and thus a long-standing dispute between Newton and Descartes is resolved in favor of Descartes (see my commentary for Christian Corda).

You're right «But, I think that there a cause to generate the vortices is that a "critical flow speed" of the physical vacuum medium. In other words, the speed of light may become a key property for this.»

The critical speed of stream in the superfluid medium of the physical vacuum is achieved at minimum speed of stream (Reynolds number is very large).

«The vortexes of turbulence formed in accordance with the laws of hydrodynamics, and they there are main self-organizing process of the material system. Even at the minimum speed of the body in superfluid medium, the turbulence vortexes are formed with minimum characteristic cross section and with maximum speed of matter in the center of the vortex, which is close to the speed of propagation of interaction.»

«"Unfounded generalizations and frequency of parametric resonance" is very interesting for me, while associating with an equilibrium condition and being without energy dissipation.»

Parametric resonance, in fact, forms a soliton in which the dissipation of energy is minimized and equilibrium sets in, but the energy circulation in the soliton and energy dissipation remain always at a minimum and the interaction force is minimized. The dissipation of energy is the cause of the self-organization of matter.

«I think "The medium of physical vacuum, together with the earth" may take a place only within the Hill sphere.»

It is believed that the Hill sphere is confined to the nearest points of Lagrange. But in the conventional concept there is no understanding of the gravisphere, and that the Lagrangian points are gravity couplers in the interaction of toroidal gravitational waves, about which there is as yet no understanding. And that the forces of attraction of cosmic bodies and their centrifugal inertia are also minimized in gravisphers, there is no understanding.

In my concept, the Earth's gravisphere extends to the middle of the distance to the orbit of Venus. Analogously to the Earth's gravisphere, the Sun's gravi-sphere extends, approximately, to the middle of the distance to the nearest star. It is in the gravisphere of the Sun that a microwave background with an optical thickness of several light years is formed. The radiation power of the microwave background and the Sun is easily calculated.

Unfortunately, the modern concept of science allows abstract and ideal properties of matter and fields, this assumption of supernatural properties does not allow to see not sufficiently substantiated generalizations in science and does not allow adequately to answer the questions of this contest.

I wish you success in the contest.

Kind regards,

Vladimir

Dear Vladimir Fedorov,

Thank you for your kind comments on my essay. I wanted to let you know I have in the meantime also read your detailed and wide reaching treatise on fundamental physics, complete with delightful thumbnail illustrations. I am intrigued if there is a specific link you make connecting our physical world with the notion of intentionality? Perhaps I have missed something important while enjoying your essay.

Regards,

Robert

Dear Robert,

Thank you very much for your interest in my modest work.

You asked

«I am intrigued if there is a specific link you make connecting our physical world with the notion of intentionality?»

You, basically, answered this question

«We consider as an example the case of irreversible free expansion and inject intent in form of Maxwell's Demon. This provides a thermodynamic trail with implications sug-gestive of the computational nature of intent.»

I just gave an analogy to the physical realization of Maxwell's Demon.

In my house in Bulgaria, I use an air conditioner - hyperinverter (heat pump with a coefficient of 5) which is an analogue of Maxwell's demon. This unit produces 3 kW of thermal power, cooling the atmosphere, with an electric power consumption of 0.6 kW.

The analogue of Maxwell's demon in the universe is the gravisphere from a dynamic medium of physical vacuum around particles and cosmic bodies. The attraction of bodies to the center of gravity in the universe is intended for gravitational separation - moving to the center of gravity of heavier dynamic elements of the medium. Heavier elements have a higher temperature.

Those, the variable temperature of the medium of the physical vacuum in the gravisphere is determined by the variable gravitational potential and the variable velocity of propagation of the gravitational interaction. The change in the propagation velocity of the interaction in the gravisphere (the derivative of spatial coordinates in time) corresponds to the distortion of space-time in Einstein's theory of relativity.

Thus, there is a mechanism of energy concentration in the center of gravity, which functions according to the principle of the action of the heat pump, due to a phase change in the elements of the medium of the physical vacuum. Gravisphere from the environment of the physical vacuum is a soliton. All processes of matter transformation are carried out with the help of deterministic toroidal gravitational waves of de Broglie and Compton. Toroidal gravitational waves concentrate energy in the center of gravity, and the process of "annihilation" of toroidal gravitational waves leads to energy scattering in the form of photons.

The next important point for understanding the mechanism of intentionality is a single grid of resonant frequencies of the limiting elements of matter, analogous to an electron. In my work, I tried to explain the fractal principle of the construction of elements of matter, according to which elements with more energy than the electron are elements of a deeper level of matter. In the universe there is a constant circulation of energy and interaction between elements of different levels of matter, but using a single grid of parametric resonance frequencies.

That is why in the process of collisions of elementary particles the same particles are formed, and even atoms from matter and antimatter. That is why chemical bonds are so selective, and matter is stable and diverse.

I wish you success in the contest.

Kind regards,

Vladimir

Vladimir,

My essay also relates to the fallacy of an abstract laboratory description of matter: "How the ideal properties of matter and fields give rise to unfounded generalizations, to meaningless mathematical laws, to goals and to intentions."

To dispel the abstract theoretical ideas of lab models and look at matter in the field of galaxies, I speculate about a dark matter interaction in galactic space. My speculation also relates to your "The vortexes of turbulence formed in accordance with the laws of hydrodynamics." I mention studies by Philip Marcus whose research described "vortices in turbulent fluids" and Michael Brenner (I misprinted Breemer) who spoke of "optimizing interaction energies to destabilize kinetic traps."

Your area of study regarding gravitational waves could be put to use near -- in our own galaxy -- and far -- to detect BB waves. Quite interesting.

Hope you get a chance to read and discharge your ideas on my essay.

Jim Hoover

    Dear Vladimir,

    Your essay touches on many aspects of physics that I would like to learn more about, especially solitons and resonance.

    Having read some of the material you cite, I think you are on to something fundamental - the vortexes you describe being related to the phenomenon of turbulence.

    It all looks plausible to me, except for your home-made gravitational variometer. That's crazy for sure, but it is a craziness I share and appreciate, as someone who once tried to build a mechanical anti-gravity machine using gyroscopes. Whatever the outcome, these projects are fun.

    Best to you,

    Colin

      Vladimir,

      Great essay. I'd made notes and thought I'd commented but I can't see it above.

      Quite apart from self organizing systems the following is also so profound I wished I'd written it myself! (actually I have written similar or equivalent in papers and previous essays)

      "The Earth's atmosphere is a transition layer with a variable speed of the physical vacuum medium relative to the Earth. Near of the surface of the Earth, where the turbulent gravitational shell is forming, the physical vacuum medium, practically, is stationary relative to the Earth",

      AND; "It should be note that the speed of movement of elements of matter on the ring of each toroidal vortex gravitational wave de Broglie and Compton of electron is equal to the speed of light"

      Super job, top score coming now. Well derived and written.

      Very best

      Peter

        Hi Vladimir,

        Thanks for leaving a comment on my essay. Your essay looks good and interesting. For some reason when I downloaded it using the link you provided in your comment, many of the equations in the essay displayed black or other types of graphic squares, making it difficult to read - I will try again later from the main site. I will give you a good rating too - thanks...

        Regards,

        Declan

        Dear James,

        Thank you for taking the time to read my essay as well as for your kind comments. I wanted to let you know I have in the meantime also read and rated your detailed essay and have posted a reply on your forum. Good luck in the contest.

        Kind regards,

        Vladimir

        Ladies and gentlemen,

        In the course of the discussion it became clear that the addresses mentioned in the reference [20], in the text of my essay, do not always adequately reflect the entire text of my article "The deterministic gravitational waves". Therefore, I give two direct links to download the file in pdf format.

        Gravitational waves v01.pdf

        Gravitational waves v01.pdf

        I apologize for the inconvenience, and hope for understanding.

        Vladimir Fedorov

        Dear Colin,

        Many thanks for the kind words about my essay .

        Of course, the experiment with gravity variometer was primarily intended for me, that would sort out the mechanism of gravity and answer the question, where to move in research?

        I specifically gave a simple description of the gravity vario, that it would be of interest to someone to repeat this simple experiment on registering the variations of graviton fluxes that were discovered by Michelson and Morley.

        This experiment seems insane, because is generally accepted that gravitational attraction is the "magic" property of the mass. And I'm interested in the physical mechanism of gravity and self-organization, which is actually devoted to my essay.

        In my opinion, attraction is the property of moving bodies, similar to the attraction of repulsive electrons moving along parallel wires.

        The bodies are attracted to each other on the Earth because there is a turbulent gravitational shell near the surface of the Earth. The bodies are pierced by gravitons fluxes in toroidal gravitational waves with an equivalent velocity of 8 km/s. Those. In fact, the stationary bodies on the Earth move parallel relatively to the environment of the physical vacuum at a speed of 8 km/s, and therefore attracted.

        It is possible that such an explanation would not satisfy someone, for example, LIGO employees.

        I wish you success in the contest.

        Kind regards,

        Vladimir

        Dear Vladimir Fedorov,

        Thank you for your kind comments. Having now read your essay I see that we agree on much. I agree that vortical action plays a much greater role than is commonly recognized, and also that the deBroglie model is the correct basis of QM. What you label "soliton potential wells of stability", I tend to think of as a 'self-sustaining soliton', and relate this to deBroglie waves induced by ultradense particle momentum. After the contest is over you might find time to look at The Nature of Quantum Gravity, which I think you will find interesting. But it does lead to a different model for the elementary particles than your model.

        I believe that the density-based formulation of GR is a flat-space equivalent to curved space-time, which you seem to imply as well. However, you say that there are no particles with greater 'mass' then the electron, while I think that there are no particles with greater 'mass density' than the electron.

        I am focused more on particles, so I cannot follow all your astronomical calculations, although I am impressed with the data set you have assembled and with your calculations. At this point I am still not entirely sure of your conception of gravity. In short, I agree with the essentials of vortical action, deBroglie-like solitons induced by particles, and gravity as fundamental, but our models of these particles diverge.

        I think both of us wish to push mystical quantum mechanics in the direction of intuitive classical physics, which I address to some degree in my essay.

        Thanks again for your comments and for contributing your ideas to the FQXi community.

        My very best regards,

        Edwin Eugene Klingman