Hi Don,
Your essay shows both motivation for and significant troubles following from denial of the free will. However, it is unclear how you resolve the problem, at least for yourself. What is your conclusion?
Best,
Alexey Burov.
Hi Don,
Your essay shows both motivation for and significant troubles following from denial of the free will. However, it is unclear how you resolve the problem, at least for yourself. What is your conclusion?
Best,
Alexey Burov.
Hi Alexey,
Firstly, as of now I think your essay is one of the best. Second my Lexi was not you, unless you happen to be a beautiful young girl.
My view is that free will comes with the human package, and even if we protest against it, as Lexi did, we are stuck with it. Free will is so inextricably part of our language that it goes unnoticed.
Also, I tried to indicate that the exercise of free will is always linked to emotion. The highest expression of emotion being radiant beauty. Your essay did this for the mathematics.
Thanks for your question and your essay.
Don Limuti
Hi Don,
Happy to see you again on FQXI.
You have pondered a beautiful general papper about free will and determinsim.
good luck in this contest.
Best
Hi Don,
Thanks again for your compliments. As to your essay, indeed, you clearly showed that the free will belongs to the human package. However, you also showed that the objectivist cause-effect thinking belongs to this package as well, and the two contradict each other, didn't you? Then, the questions arise: how to resolve that contradiction? what is the truth? does it matter? on what ground it can be decided? Somehow, you stopped at the border of the most interesting things, I would say :)
Cheers,
Alexey Burov.
Hi Alexey,
Perfect summary of what I did! Thank you for expressing it. I was beginning to think nobody really got what I was doing. I did stop right before the climax, kinda like those short serialized movies.
The quote from the Stanford website (my abstract) pointed out how tough a problem determinism is. I just made it more palpable with a short dialog. I should have had a last sentence that said: "Stay tuned for the next installment".
Thanks very much for your input,
Don Limuti
Hi Steve,
I was looking for your essay. Are you in this contest?
I have entered all the contests except the last one. It feels good to be back.
What have you been up to.
Best,
Don Limuti
Don,
Although your first movie in that serial is too short, it is well done, as a beginning. I think it would be fair from my side to give you what I am giving right now :)
All the best,
Alexey.
Hi Don,
It is nice to see you again in our clever company!
I have discovered your unusual work and I have understood (after some time) that you try to use the pepper, - against to stupidity. I am doubtful this can be effective despite me also try to add some pepper (with the small salt) in mine essay. I do not know it can be useful because Russians say - "if guy is stupid, it is for long time!" But we must do our job as we see it may better!
I welcome you and I wish to support you!
Best Regards
Hi George,
Glad to see you and a whole bunch of friends and valiant competitors in this contest. This contest tackles the notion of determinism and causation via mathematics or something like that. I was not going to enter, but at the last minute I did enter with the notion of highlighting just how hard a question it is. I was not trying to be a goof or trouble maker.
I look forward to reading your essay.
Don L
Hi Don,
No I have not made it.:) I improve my theory of spherisation on FQXI.I will publish this year in logic.
Good luck ,I am wishing you all the best
Dear President Don Limuti,
Please excuse me for I have no intention of disparaging in any way any part of your essay.
I merely wish to point out that "Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler." Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955) Physicist & Nobel Laureate.
Only nature could produce a reality so simple, a single cell amoeba could deal with it.
The real Universe must consist only of one unified visible infinite physical surface occurring in one infinite dimension, that am always illuminated by infinite non-surface light.
A more detailed explanation of natural reality can be found in my essay, SCORE ONE FOR SIMPLICITY. I do hope that you will read my essay and perhaps comment on its merit.
Joe Fisher, Realist
Hi Joe,
Take the time to read my essay. I think you might enjoy it.
Don L.
Dear Don Limuti
I invite you and every physicist to read my work "TIME ORIGIN,DEFINITION AND EMPIRICAL MEANING FOR PHYSICISTS, Héctor Daniel Gianni ,I'm not a physicist.
How people interested in "Time" could feel about related things to the subject.
1) Intellectuals interested in Time issues usually have a nice and creative wander for the unknown.
2) They usually enjoy this wander of their searches around it.
3) For millenniums this wander has been shared by a lot of creative people around the world.
4) What if suddenly, something considered quasi impossible to be found or discovered such as "Time" definition and experimental meaning confronts them?
5) Their reaction would be like, something unbelievable,... a kind of disappointment, probably interpreted as a loss of wander.....
6) ....worst than that, if we say that what was found or discovered wasn't a viable theory, but a proved fact.
7) Then it would become offensive to be part of the millenary problem solution, instead of being a reason for happiness and satisfaction.
8) The reader approach to the news would be paradoxically adverse.
9) Instead, I think it should be a nice welcome to discovery, to be received with opened arms and considered to be read with full attention.
11)Time "existence" is exclusive as a "measuring system", its physical existence can't be proved by science, as the "time system" is. Experimentally "time" is "movement", we can prove that, showing that with clocks we measure "constant and uniform" movement and not "the so called Time".
12)The original "time manuscript" has 23 pages, my manuscript in this contest has only 9 pages.
I share this brief with people interested in "time" and with physicists who have been in sore need of this issue for the last 50 or 60 years.
Héctor
Dear Limuti,
Nice short discussion with LEXI, your alter self.... !
Best wishes for your aspiration for making the first artificial emotional intelligence chip!
Probably we are not machines, we have something else called "consciousness", can you provide the consciousness to the robot you are proposing to built? In my essay I am showing that the Universe is having some form of consciousness......
For your information Dynamic Universe model is totally based on experimental results. Here in Dynamic Universe Model Space is Space and time is time in cosmology level or in any level. In the classical general relativity, space and time are convertible in to each other.
Many papers and books on Dynamic Universe Model were published by the author on unsolved problems of present day Physics, for example 'Absolute Rest frame of reference is not necessary' (1994) , 'Multiple bending of light ray can create many images for one Galaxy: in our dynamic universe', About "SITA" simulations, 'Missing mass in Galaxy is NOT required', "New mathematics tensors without Differential and Integral equations", "Information, Reality and Relics of Cosmic Microwave Background", "Dynamic Universe Model explains the Discrepancies of Very-Long-Baseline Interferometry Observations.", in 2015 'Explaining Formation of Astronomical Jets Using Dynamic Universe Model, 'Explaining Pioneer anomaly', 'Explaining Near luminal velocities in Astronomical jets', 'Observation of super luminal neutrinos', 'Process of quenching in Galaxies due to formation of hole at the center of Galaxy, as its central densemass dries up', "Dynamic Universe Model Predicts the Trajectory of New Horizons Satellite Going to Pluto" etc., are some more papers from the Dynamic Universe model. Four Books also were published. Book1 shows Dynamic Universe Model is singularity free and body to collision free, Book 2, and Book 3 are explanation of equations of Dynamic Universe model. Book 4 deals about prediction and finding of Blue shifted Galaxies in the universe.
With axioms like... No Isotropy; No Homogeneity; No Space-time continuum; Non-uniform density of matter(Universe is lumpy); No singularities; No collisions between bodies; No Blackholes; No warm holes; No Bigbang; No repulsion between distant Galaxies; Non-empty Universe; No imaginary or negative time axis; No imaginary X, Y, Z axes; No differential and Integral Equations mathematically; No General Relativity and Model does not reduce to General Relativity on any condition; No Creation of matter like Bigbang or steady-state models; No many mini Bigbangs; No Missing Mass; No Dark matter; No Dark energy; No Bigbang generated CMB detected; No Multi-verses etc.
Many predictions of Dynamic Universe Model came true, like Blue shifted Galaxies and no dark matter. Dynamic Universe Model gave many results otherwise difficult to explain
Have a look at my essay on Dynamic Universe Model and its blog also where all my books and papers are available for free downloading...
http://vaksdynamicuniversemodel.blogspot.in/
Best wishes to your essay.
For your blessings please................
=snp. gupta
Hi SNP Gupta,
Thanks for your visit. My goal was to play with choice and determinism, and show how freewill and determinism cannot be avoided.
Yours in a Dynamic Universe,
Don Limuti
Dear Don Limuti,
Yes you are correct, It is a nice goal indeed.....
Very fast response....wonderful...
Thank you for such nice comment on my essay. I hope you will study further on this Dynamic Universe Model....
Your thinking is wonderful...
Best wishes
=snp
Dear Don Limuti,
It's always a pleasure to read your entries. And, in the Karl Popper sense, no one can prove you wrong! You combine subtlety and humor in a way few can match. I'll bet you're a lot of fun to be with. But, having read your essay three times, I'm more impressed each time and most impressed that you do it all in a page and a half.
It's definitely good to see you back!
Edwin Eugene Klingman
Don,
"Don and Lexi" have roles that could continue in the deterministic discussion. Personally I think I would go along with Hume's rejection of logical induction, denying connection to practical reason. I think I point that out in my essay regarding the apparent flirtation of humankind with possible extinction or decision making counter to our well being.
I think Hume also said that "matter in all its operations, is actuated by a necessary force, and that every natural effect is so precisely determined by the energy of its cause, that no other effect, in such particular circumstances, could possibly have resulted from it." My utter speculation regarding dark matter suggests a myriad of interactions produce forces that might be responsible for dark matter. Thus dark matter could be a natural effect of such interactions but certainly is something we have failed to determine.
One thing your essay does is open up the thinking about the impact of mindless laws, the material world and human agency.
Jim Hoover
Edwin,
Great to be back in such good company.
Don Limuti
James,
Thanks for your visit and your thought provoking essay.
Don Limuti