Dirty Wet Chemical Universal Awakening by Steven Andresen

Don

Taking this at face value, I think it and you are exceedingly clever. Please dont take this as agreement, because I havent nor probably could validate your work on my own. But I like the parameters you play with, and I respect the skills you need to build those associations. Its great that such a short explanation of yours can bring the vision to my mind.

I think the following is especially ingenious.

"I make a wild guess that the graviton (even though is not light) is ruled by the Planck-Einstein equation. Now we know the energy of each graviton."

What I also find interesting about the parameters you play with and the associations they deliver, is how they can be interpreted within my framework. Would you be open to a brief explanation why I think this works? It might be helpful for us to know each others minds.

Steve

Here is another way to put it

I'm very pleased with the reviews my essay received, and for the community score that tallied. However I havent engaged with the community in discussions about it yet, either in a sense that might test it or allow me to elaborate further. I have added a post to my essay thread titled Darwinian Universal, which presents an explanation for why the concept of fundamental forces is flawed, in terms of being considered an energy conserving system which undertakes perpetual work effort. Electron bond persistency in binding matter for example. Having framed it in terms of what conventional approach is conceptually missing, I then present a solution in terms of my concept. That the question of what the nature of the interaction is that exists between space and matter that would marry quantum mechanics and general relativity, is the same question as "what is the prior cause for the fundamental forces that enables their work effort?. I propose that photon and gluon activity is the product of the interaction with space, and this is why the terms of Guv and Tuv share equality. Its an energy transfer and conversion. So matter being in the business of consuming an elemental field of space that enables photon activity, dictating the rate of causality which we interpret as time. This is how it corresponds to the theory of spacetime.

This raises the question, if space is a resource matter is dependent on to maintain activity, then how can the resource remain persistent over time. Why is it not finite and subject to depletion? Auv cosmological emergence of space to the rescue. I cannot present the physics that would answer the how of Auv's continual emergence, but I can point to the observation and values attributed to its emergence, and the equality they share with universal values of Guv and Tuv. That their equality is highly suggestive they share a relationship that is causal. That Auv is a renewable resource which enables photon activity, and that Auv and Tuv are both elements of a universal system that allows for compounded changes and evolved purposeful structure and complexities to emerge. That all the activities on both atomic and cosmological scales, are evolved and optimized for their reason for existence, which is for efficiency of interaction between the Auv elemental field of space, and Tuv matter.

This theory prescribes cause, purpose and meanings to aspects of the world where there has been nothing of the sort presented before. I would like the opportunity to demonstrate to people that this concept is deserving of discussion. Are you willing to join me please and help me kick it off?

http://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/2890

Thank you for your consideration

Kind regards

Steven Andresen

Within this context, an explanation for anomalous galaxy motions?

The relationship described above whereby Tuv Gluons and Photons have a relative value, dependent on the variable local energy density of Auv elemental field, space. Gluons give mass, so variable Gluon values equate to a variable Baryon mass theory which allows the redistribution of mass densities throughout galaxy disks. And I want to state the following in a particular way that also identifies how the exacting mathematical description can be formulated. Variable baryon mass corresponds to a Auv volume of space.

Based on galaxy luminosity profiles it is judged that on average, star densities fall off by square of the radius from galaxy center. So that indicates that galaxy mass declines by square of radius from galaxy center. However judging from flat galaxy rotation curves, the galaxy motions indicate that the mass density of galaxies it constant at increasing radius. The mass profile remains constant. The relationship I have described between Auv and Tuv details an inter-dependence on one another that can be stated as so. The Gluon activity which gives rise to variable Baryonic mass, is inversely proportional to the density of matter within a given volume of space Auv field. It can be understood simply as, Gluons place a load on Auv field to enable their activity, however they lower the local energy value of Auv, which in turn lowers the potential for Gluon activity. If you crowd additional Gluons into a given volume of space, the energy value of Auv varies proportionately to the increasing density of Baryons.

All I have to do to match Baryonic mass values to observed galaxy motions, is state that Gluon activity, and therefore variable Baryonic mass values are proportional to their density in a particular volume of Auv space. If the density of stars falls of by square of radius from galaxy center, then Gluons are increasing the activity that gives rise to mass proportionately. Galaxy mass distribution now matches observed motions.

Dear Pavel and Marcelo

This video is a wonderful discovery. So impressed by Pavel Kroupa's cosmological work, that every once and awhile I punch his name into the search engine to see if anything new is available. And so having found this video I'm introduced to Marcelo Gleiser, another wonderful thinker who's work I must investigate. Nice to meet you Marcelo.

I have something I would very much like to communicate to both of you, I hope you are paying attention to these video comments? I'll post it below soon

There are many mysteries of the world still beyond explanation. Of those attempting to progress our awareness of the world, I think there are few doing it as effective as Pavel Kroupa. Why is he effective? I think he has done a better job than most in rationalizing conventional scientific understandings for himself, is better aware of the theoretical shortcomings, and is therefore more willing than most to second guess preconceived scientific ideas.

Pavel, please give the following more than just a passing glance. I know there is a lot of noise on the net, vying for our, your attention. Just how I might introduce you to an idea that you will recognise a value, I can only guess. But I've decided that the question of how fundamental forces exist and operate, while convention assigns no theoretical cause for them? This question becomes particularly interesting in respect of fundamental forces being considered energy conserved systems, when they are clearly imparting a work effort in the world. Molecular bonds are a good example of this work effort, because we can appreciate their properties at the human scale in terms of them binding objects together, which we can then wrap our own hands around and directly sense their ability to resist pressures we can place against them. Is it reasonable that a system can conserve its energy state while imparting force to the world, as a free or causeless by product? So I hope you will appreciate the value of that question, that you will take the time to hear what I have to say on the subject.

The concept of "fundamental forces" the strong nuclear force and or electromagnetic force for example, is flawed in terms of them being considered energy conserved systems which can miraculously undertake work effort, and while no cause being assigned. Moving along, the question of what the nature of the interaction is that exists between space and matter, that would marry quantum mechanics and general relativity, might have the same answer as the question "what is the prior cause for the fundamental forces that enables their work effort? Could it be that photon and gluon activity is the "product" of the interaction with space, and that the terms of Guv and Tuv sharing equality is evidence of this relationship? An energy transfer and conversion for which an element inhabiting space is paying the cost. So matter being in the business of consuming an Auv elemental field of space that enables Tuv photon activity, dictating the variable rate of causality which we interpret as times passage. This being how environments of space correspond to the theory of spacetime.

This raises the question, if space possesses a physical resource matter is dependent upon to maintain activity, then how can the resource remain persistent over time. Why is it not finite and subject to depletion? Auv cosmological emergence of space provides a possible solution. I cannot present the physics that would answer the how of Auv's continual emergence, but I can point to the observation and values attributed to its emergence, and the equality they share with universal values of Guv and Tuv. That their equality is highly suggestive they share a relationship that is causal, and the possibility outlined as above is not excluded from. That Auv is a renewable resource which enables gluon and photon activity, and that Auv and Tuv are both elements of a universal system that is continually regenerated, allowing for compounded changes and evolved purposeful structure and complexities to emerge. That all the activities and structures on both atomic and cosmological scales, are evolved and optimized for their reason for existence, which is for efficiency of interaction between the Auv elemental field of space, and Tuv matter. This will sound like a stretch on first appraisal, however I've had time to tease out possible interpretations that correspond to the real world, which are available for your assessment.

Give nature an energy potential and it will invent a Darwinian circumstance of emergence. Early oceanic life for example, algae invents a way to exploit the suns energy in a process of Photosynthesis, which then foundations the base of a food chain that blossoms through evolution of diversified range of organisms of increasing levels of character and complexity. Krill that eat the algae, in turn eaten by small fish, eaten by bigger fish and squid, eaten by tuna, sharks, birds, dolphins and whales. Natures organisational principle that builds articulated complexity.

Auv cosmological emergence is clearly associated with some kind of natural energy potential, which conceivably may be the bases for a circumstance of Darwinian emergence that leads to complex structure building. Like the algae, this Auv elemental field of space foundations the base of a system that compounds ever higher levels of universal order and complexity, in the form of atomic and cosmological structure. This is how elaborate Gluon and photon characteristics may have come to emerge in the universe, and the circumstance whereby their activity is enabled by a metabolism of an Auv elemental field of space.

The varied associations drawn above are reasonable. It enables us to make statements like, the property of gluonic mass is an evolved purposeful function of matter that builds cosmological structure, planets, stars, galaxies, with the theme of purposeful and efficient interaction with Auv. Its ability to undertake work functions accounted for in terms of cause and effect, by the Auv elemental field of space, rather than resorting to the causeless theory of fundamental forces. Similarly, we can point to molecular bonds and the functions of chemistry that build them, as evolved properties of matter with the purpose of cementing objects together. Creating optimised structures that persist in a highly kinetically energetic universe.

I could move in the direction of any number of tangents at this point, but I want to indicate something of possible value. So I give you a possable antidote for anomalous galaxy motions.

A key insight presented here within, is that gluon and photon activity are dependent on the variable energy density of their environment of space Auv. Gluons are generators of force that gives the property mass, so gluon variable activity theory, is a variable baryonic mass theory. What's more, there is a function of proportionality evident between gluon variable activity and volume of space.

Based on luminosity profiles it is judged that an average galaxy possesses a star density profile that declines by square of the radius from galaxy centre. So we assume a galaxies baryonic mass distribution follows like kind. However the observed galaxy rotation curves operate in such a way as to indicate, the galaxy mass distribution is constant from centre to rim. To precisely remedy this situation, we invoke a function whereby variable gluon activity (mass) is coupled, proportionate to volume of Space. The magic becomes apparent when you conceptually add additional masses within a given volume of space, and you hypothesis that gluon activity (mass) declines proportionately. In the case of a galaxy whereby star density declines by square of the radius from galaxy centre, it prescribes an increasing gluon activity (mass) by square of the radius from galaxy centre, redistributing galaxy mass in such a way that predicts galaxy rotation curves.

This theory honours the measured values of Auv = Guv = Tuv, provides a contextual explanation that relates them to one another in terms of cause and effect, that portrays meaning and purpose, as well as moving beyond the idea that fundamental forces can act without cause. Explains how purposeful structures and complexities can arise within a system that regenerates and compounds change, evolves. And it provides a prospective simple formula relating variable mass and volume of space, that might be easily tested against observed anomalous galaxy motions. A variable baryonic mass theory.

I hope I will be offered the opportunity by you, to add further justifications. I have many. And perhaps have your assistance in testing the idea.

Thank you for your consideration

Steve

An interesting idea, that Gluons are much the same as light, and light has the capacity for motion. That Gluons might be the force provider that motivates gravitational accelerations?

I would like to discuss the question of the origin of force? Again lets focus on gluons and photons, which is to say, strong nuclear force and electromagnetic force, whos actions are ascribed to the theory of "Fundamental Forces". Within this context, the word fundamental might be interpreted as a theoretical "first cause". Or force with no prior cause.

There are some basic problems with the theory of "force with no prior cause". It raises the same general criticisms we might have for the notion of perpetual energy machines. But are these same general criticisms rightly directed towards the function of atomic forces? Fundamental forces do a lot of different things, but we want to identify an action which is clearly in the business of undertaking "work action" and therefore cannot be interpreted as energy conserving. So let us focus on EM electromagnetic electron bonds which glues matter together. I select electron bonds because they manifest a property of matter which we can appreciate at the macro scale of human existence, and which we can wrap our own hands around an object, and directly sense the "work effort" these electromagnetic forces are responsible for mediating.

The question is, how can perpetual work effort exist without prior cause? If we try to excuse this situation, as fundamental forces being energy conserved systems, then how do you extract work from such a system without affecting its internal checks and balances?

I know it seams as though I'm leading us toward an intangible circumstance, for which the activities of matter cannot be provided a rational explanation. But I'm not. I'm leading us down a well considered path, which I hope gives reason enough to entertain the novel solution I will provide. It is a solution which prescribes a prior cause for atomic forces, while solving a number of further problems confronting scientific understanding.

Let us consider the possibility that the following two questions have the same answer. What is the nature of the interaction between space and matter, that would marry quantum mechanics and general relativity? and what is the prior cause of atomic forces?

Let us envision, space containing a physical element which matter is in the business of consuming, to enable matters forceful activities. Guv = Tuv is the conventional interpretation of the interaction between space and matter. If it is indeed an energy transfer and conversion to atomic force, then the equality demonstrated of each of these terms bodes well. However, a conceptual challenge to this notion, would be as follows. If space contains an elemental field that is consumed by matter, then wouldn't it be a finite resource that would eventually be depleted? And on the face of it, you might think that presents an end to this conjecture. But it doesnt.

Space isn't only described in terms of Guv. Space also has a property which is described as cosmological expansion, and termed as Auv. For the benefit of this conjecture, I'll ask you to consider the possibility that Auv is a measurement that corresponds to a regenerative process undertaken by an elemental field inhabiting space, which continually replenishes the potential, that in turn drives atomic forces. For this hypothesis to have any prospect, there would have to be a link between the value of Auv (cosmological expansion) and Tuv (atomic forces) that demonstrate an equality. And indeed, such a measure has been known about for many years. Those interested please quiz me?

Auv = Guv = Tuv.

This line of conjecture provides something further. Entities which continually regenerate have the prospect of compounding changes over time and evolving. Generationally compounded change, conceivably can lead simple systems toward heightened levels of order and complexity. The character of structures that evolve in such a system, as exampled by life, can be used to infer the circumstances of their evolution, revealing motives and purpose, which in turn convey reasons and meanings. Does this conjecture lead to an interpretation of universal emergence that explains for its very particular style of order, complexity, fine tuning? It does, and I am part way through the process of uncovering an interpretation of it.

It goes something like this. Give nature an energy potential and it will invent a circumstance of Darwinian emergence which leads to heightened levels of complexity. Whether that is Algae which evolves the ability for photosynthesis, which exploits the freely available natural energy potential of the sun, which then becomes the basis of a food chain that leads to diverse organisms of increasingly complex character. Algae eaten by krill, eaten by small fish, eaten by bigger fish and squid, eaten by tuna, sharks, dolphins and whales. Could this be how all complexities evolve in the world, including atomic and cosmological structure?

Could Auv cosmological emergence be the result of a natural energy potential, ( as yet unidentified physical process), which has lead to a Darwinian cascade that provides circumstance, reason and purpose for the structures, complexity, fine tuning, we observe in the world around us? I am building the case so that people might be able to judge merit. Writing to you now provides me an opportunity for practice.

Halton Arp's observations that demonstrate an association between quasars and a galaxy of their apparent origin. They are visually evident. At face value, its reminiscent of life's process of cellular division. Quark separation which spontaneously generates new quarks is also reminiscent of life's process of cellular division. Highly suggestive observations that imply matters ability to replicate itself.

When cells divide in the process of replicating themselves, it allows for genetic drift, which compounds changes over many generations and allows for the process of natural selection and evolution. This is how highly complex systems emerge within biology. The question of complexity in physics is a huge problem to answer, and for which SMoC doesnt have the slightest grapple on. Thats why there is speculation about multiverses, to attempt explain complexity of the world. Could this be the mechanism that explains our fine tuned universe, and the emergence of articulated structure on atomic and cosmological scales? Let us dare to speculate.

Life on earth builds complex ecosystems, but all these ecosystems have one thing in common. It is the simplest life forms which tap into and exploit a "natural energy potential" which then becomes a food chain for organisms of increasing complexity. Such as oceanic Algae which exploits the suns energy potential, Algae eaten by krill, krill eaten by small fish, eaten by bigger fish and squid, and in tern eaten by highly complex organisms like tuna, sharks, dolphins, whales, birds etc etc. Give nature a natural energy potential and it will invent a circumstance of Darwinian emergence.

Now I jump to a concept that on first appraisal seams bonkers. But given a chance it achieves things you wouldnt expect.

I reiterate. Give nature a natural energy potential and it will invent a circumstance of Darwinian emergence. With this in mind, space is thought to contain an emergent energy, which takes its measure from cosmological redshift and referred to as Auv within theory of general relativity. Pop media refer to as mysterious Dark Energy. Presumably whatever Dark Energy is, it is exploiting a natural energy potential to preliterate itself. So let us speculate that DE might serve as the foundation of a system from which complexity has arisen, complexity in the form of the material baryonic universe that we are made of. If this were to be the case, then what clue can we assume from it that we might be able to conceptually test?

The link that stands unbroken between Algae and organisms of higher complexity within Earth ecosystems, is the passing of the suns energy from one organism to the next. One organism eats another, and I emphasize the term "metabolism" as the process that enables the energy transfer. So if we're looking at this circumstance with a view to obtaining insight that we might test, then let us test the idea that atomic forces are enabled by a process akin to "metabolism". A metabolism which converts Dark Energy into atomic activity. Could this be the nature of the interaction between space and matter that would marry quantum mechanics with general relativity? The conventional approach to atomic force is "fundamental force". The term "Fundamental" can be interpreted as "first cause" or "original cause" but of course there is no prior cause attributed to the work effort that fundamental forces are capable of. This amounts to it being a "causeless work effort". So by ascribing the ability for atomic forces to undertake work actions, to a process of interaction that is a metabolism between Dark Energy and Baryon matter, it gives us a concept to test further.

For this hypothesis to yield anything further of interest, it would have to be demonstrated that there was a prospective link between Auv and Tuv. That is to say, the value assigned to the emergence of space Auv, and the value assigned to universal Baryons Tuv. And whats amazing, is that this connection is clearly identifiable and has been known about for decades. But the conventional cosmological model couldn't make sense of these connections between the equality of Auv and Tuv, and so has been put aside as a mere curiosity. Rather than listen to me going on about them, here is a short 9 minute video of Paul Dirac making a muddle of these associations by trying to interpret them within the conventional model. But pay attention to where he derives the parameters of his hypothesis from and you will see they are indeed an indication of the associations needed if atomic forces originate from an interaction with space, that in term originates as Dark Energies emergence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o8mUyq_Wwg

Give nature an energy potential and it will invent a circumstance of Darwinian emergence. Dark Energy might be the result of just such an energy potential, and which serves as the basis of an integrated system able to compound changes, leading to ever higher levels of order and complexity of the world. Atomic and cosmological structure provided an explanation.

I was asked this question!

Aside from the word "evolution" what parallels are there between a process occurring on a vast scale involving predictable nuclear processes, and one at a small scale involving random chemical mutations selected for and against by environmental pressures?

To which I answered!!

Nuclear fusion is a process occurring on a vast scale, involved in the process of generating heat within stars, providing the force that keeps stars buoyant against gravitational collapse. Whats interesting is that if fusion rates were other than what they are, stars wouldnt exist. To sensitive a reaction and stars explode as they form. Not sensitive enough and stars dont generate enough heat, gravity wins they collapse. This is one of the parameters attributed to the universal fine tuning problem.

Within my hypothesis, Stars are of an optimized physical state evolved for efficiency of interaction with Auv space. So the agency of matter we refer to as fusion is selectively calibrated to serve the purpose it is observed in the function of. The conventional approach by contrast, can only ascribe this agency of matter to being the product of lucky chance. As in, lucky the universe accidentally created this unlikely circumstance or else the universe would be dark, and wouldnt give rise to life.

You want a contrasted example concerning evolved biology.

Take your pick. Thats what typifies an evolved state, its calibrated state that enables the necessary agencies for an organisms survival. It is evolved as a state, that is also its reason for existence. A birds aerodynamics that enables it to fly. A dolphins hydrodynamics that enables efficient swimming. Human ability for comprehension which enables us to adapt, but also listen and rationalize new and novel ideas ;)

Thank you go diherbal

Which aspect did you find most of interest please?

Steve