Watching the Construction of a New Wing by Jeffrey Michael Schmitz

Hi Jeff,

This is a really good essay. I am very surprised it is not getting more attention.

Let me know if I got this right:

1. Mathematical models are incomplete. The map is not the territory!

2. The scientific method is incomplete because because it does not discuss how choices are made (see my essay).

3. We confuse intelligence with self-awareness and high rate data processing - intelligence is something separate. AI would be more accurately described as human augmentation (refer to Doug Engelbart at SRI).

Hey! Essay writers read and vote on this essay ... It is excellent!

Don Limuti

Dear Jeffrey,

With great interest I read your essay, which of course is worthy of high praise.

You are one of the few who directly answers the question put by the contest.

You are absolutely right that «If entropy requires heat to flow from hot to cold then a refrigerator would seem an impossible device.» You correctly put questions and find answers «A refrigerator works because on the inside entropy of the refrigerator is reduced, but outside entropy is increased more, so the overall entropy of the universe is increased.»

In my essay , is shown that if you do not use the mystical properties of matter and fields, then there is every reason to believe that the universe is much simpler than it is thought to be.

There is only one essence and the only universal quantum parametric mechanism in the universe that operates on the principle of the classical heat pump in solitons (attractors), and that functions both at the micro- and macro-level of fractal matter. This mechanism allows using a small fraction of the external energy to control in many times big fraction the energy of the system.

This mechanism is also the answer to the questions of this competition.

However, everyone loves their fiction and "magic", built by their "gods", so very few are able to see the rational grain in other people's ideas because of their illusions.

Your essay allowed to consider us like-minded people.

You might also like reading my essay .

Kind regards,

Vladimir

Nice essay Schmitz,

Your ideas and thinking are excellent for eg...

Intelligence needs:

яВХяАаA goal.

яВХяАаA knowledge base.

яВХяАаA set of instructions, which do not contain the goal.

яВХяАаThe ability to rewrite those instructions to conform to the knowledge base to help achieve the

goal.

A Good idea, I fully agree with you, probably the Universe also had a mind and consciousness of its own ............

..................... At this point I want you to ask you to please have a look at my essay, where ...............reproduction of Galaxies in the Universe is described. Dynamic Universe Model is another mathematical model for Universe. Its mathematics show that the movement of masses will be having a purpose or goal, Different Galaxies will be born and die (quench) etc...just have a look at the essay... "Distances, Locations, Ages and Reproduction of Galaxies in our Dynamic Universe" where UGF (Universal Gravitational force) acting on each and every mass, will create a direction and purpose of movement.....

I think intension is inherited from Universe itself to all Biological systems

For your information Dynamic Universe model is totally based on experimental results. Here in Dynamic Universe Model Space is Space and time is time in cosmology level or in any level. In the classical general relativity, space and time are convertible in to each other.

Many papers and books on Dynamic Universe Model were published by the author on unsolved problems of present day Physics, for example 'Absolute Rest frame of reference is not necessary' (1994) , 'Multiple bending of light ray can create many images for one Galaxy: in our dynamic universe', About "SITA" simulations, 'Missing mass in Galaxy is NOT required', "New mathematics tensors without Differential and Integral equations", "Information, Reality and Relics of Cosmic Microwave Background", "Dynamic Universe Model explains the Discrepancies of Very-Long-Baseline Interferometry Observations.", in 2015 'Explaining Formation of Astronomical Jets Using Dynamic Universe Model, 'Explaining Pioneer anomaly', 'Explaining Near luminal velocities in Astronomical jets', 'Observation of super luminal neutrinos', 'Process of quenching in Galaxies due to formation of hole at the center of Galaxy, as its central densemass dries up', "Dynamic Universe Model Predicts the Trajectory of New Horizons Satellite Going to Pluto" etc., are some more papers from the Dynamic Universe model. Four Books also were published. Book1 shows Dynamic Universe Model is singularity free and body to collision free, Book 2, and Book 3 are explanation of equations of Dynamic Universe model. Book 4 deals about prediction and finding of Blue shifted Galaxies in the universe.

With axioms like... No Isotropy; No Homogeneity; No Space-time continuum; Non-uniform density of matter(Universe is lumpy); No singularities; No collisions between bodies; No Blackholes; No warm holes; No Bigbang; No repulsion between distant Galaxies; Non-empty Universe; No imaginary or negative time axis; No imaginary X, Y, Z axes; No differential and Integral Equations mathematically; No General Relativity and Model does not reduce to General Relativity on any condition; No Creation of matter like Bigbang or steady-state models; No many mini Bigbangs; No Missing Mass; No Dark matter; No Dark energy; No Bigbang generated CMB detected; No Multi-verses etc.

Many predictions of Dynamic Universe Model came true, like Blue shifted Galaxies and no dark matter. Dynamic Universe Model gave many results otherwise difficult to explain

Have a look at my essay on Dynamic Universe Model and its blog also where all my books and papers are available for free downloading...

http://vaksdynamicuniversemodel.blogspot.in/

Best wishes to your essay.

For your blessings please................

=snp. gupta

Jeff,

Life is an intelligent system and is one of the most efficient agents of entropy. When you say intent and purpose are clear and plentiful at the small scale, do you mean the quantum scale? The metamathematics and thermodynamics concepts do come together in the explanation and pigs still can't fly.

Your musings do seem to reflect the inscrutability of the topic. I had trouble getting a handle on it.

Adjunct teaching is not rewarding financially but is as you note interacting with students. I did it part time in several subjects.

Regards,

Jim Hoover

Jeff,

Lovely essay, with much sense, I do like your direct readable writing style. I also broadly agree your 'threshold' definition of intelligence and described almost the same thing, with imaginary scenario's, responses and 'feedback loops' informing decisions.

You also point out some very pertinent facts; "There are many wrong physical models that work perfectly well mathematically" and; "a toaster oven with a goal and the ability to change could be intelligent." (as the toaster in the UK TV series Red Dwarf', which also consistently reverts to it's primary goal!)

Regarding; "The Heisenberg uncertainty principle Is a known unknown, a limit to our knowledge of a particle" So true, but you may have seen I do identify a valid classical derivation of that probability distribution! Of course that may not pass the cognitive dissonance test for some years (the 1st part of the essay shows why) but nobody has yet falsified it as it's a self apparent (if initially seeming complex) mechanism.

I'm sorry my essay is (again!) so dense, but I had a lot to get in to support the compound hypothesis. Yes it does need 2 reads. I find most good essays and papers do, though I do invariably 'speed read' first to decide if it's worthwhile. Yours was an exception, clear and spot on, so I slowed down and just read it once.

I see you've been trolled. Mine has just received it's 11th '1', just after it went up a couple of places! Rest assured your score from me will be a deserved good one to compensate, in fact going on now. There's some discussion on the admin blog as trolling can be easily eliminated.

I do hope your second read of mine will reveal the often subtle connections of how quantum interactions DO contain adequate information and options to drive a multi choice multi layer 'yes/no switch' feedback and decision system, even with a 'random' mutation mechanism!

Very best

Peter

Hi Jeff

I found your idea of mistakes being mandatory for something to be identified as intelligent quite fascinating. It is true that I have allowed for mistakes (flaws) in my own modeling of intelligence, but that was incidental, and I had not thought about it as explicitly as you have.

It is also interesting that you state that supercomputers might not be intelligent but the average toaster might be considered as intelligent. I am not sure but it is possible that the difference between the two might come down to their capability to self-regulate. Toasters can but supercomputers can't. The biological mechanisms that you identified as being intelligent can also self-regulate. You correctly state that scientific method is 'part' of an intelligent system without being intelligent itself.

I liked your style of writing and wish you had written more on the subject. Nevertheless, I think this essay is way better than the average essay (I am rating it accordingly) because of your clear thought regarding mistakes being necessary for a system to be considered as intelligent.

Regards, Willy

Dear Jeff,

Thanks for coming back to my essay! And thanks for your critique. I'll think about that. It's difficult to know essay ranking dynamics, complicated by the trolls who deal out '1's for who knows what reason. Anyway I read your essay with your request in mind. It's difficult to say. You write well. Your info is generally understandable. One commenter above asks what is 'small' -- quantum? You answered "that is too small and I should have said that." I agree. Your first sentence says "start small" to understand the universe, and your last sentence keeps to that theme, so it's relevant to define 'small' in this sense.

I like that you say "an intelligent system will make mistakes." If it lacks mistakes, it is doubtful it is an intelligent system. I do not recall seeing that stated elsewhere, and it is an interesting point. It appears original so I think you could've expanded on this more than you did. For example, "no mistakes" seems to imply deterministic, whereas learning behaviors provide adaptability, but sometimes fail or sometimes learn the wrong thing. You do discuss some of this with respect to mutation. You might discuss 'mistake' versus 'error'. The goal oriented system will not work without an error signal. The error signal provides the information needed to steer towards the goal.

I was also confused by your use of "intelligent". Your first sentence in your abstract says "intelligent creates ideas" and "finds order in chaos". On page 2 you define the necessary features. Then you discuss a supercomputer versus toaster. And the intelligence of a tree. I think this could of been expanded on or clarified in some way.

Jeff, the only thing I can think of to help with future essays [since you asked] would be to use headers to break the flow. You have so many ideas, one after the other, and they are not simple ideas. It is difficult to see where things are going as one reads through the essay. It sounds trite, but I know you've seen long comments on the web, followed by a comment to the effect that "paragraphs are your friend". The use of headers or interior titles both helps the reader focus on the theme being discussed next, but it also helps my writing as it tells me what to focus on to convey in that section. (Sometimes the header changes after I have written the section.) Sometime I write without headers, then I come back and insert them and this may cause me to re-write the section. That's about the only helpful advice I could find. Just think of it as an outline to organize the flow -- for yourself and your readers.

Thanks again for coming back to my essay. I always find the second reading gives me a better appreciation of complex essays, and these FQXi essays are complex.

My best regards,

Edwin Eugene Klingman

Hi Jeffrey

Thanks for your comments on "Traveler & Terrain...." Curious as to what statements you would have left out.

I read your paper and found it a comfortable ramble through familiar territory. I judge that you will have to budget your time to allow for your persistent curiosity in things large and small. I recognize the condition quite well - looking for deep meaning in any little oddment of experience. I don't know if there is a cure, but we seem to be in good company.

Regards,

Don

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