Actually the simplest natural construction of reality requires no silly notions of space and time or any unnatural flawed human speculation about finite math either. The only requirement is for matter and action...
Watching the Observers
Dear Georgina,
Truth is always self-evident. Lies always need details. The more details that are provided, the bigger are the lies that are being revealed. A real eye can simply only ever see surface, because only infinite surface that am always illuminated by infinite non-surface light has ever existed. Complex finite ideas about finite abstract "sight" that is supposedly finitely "mediated" by finite invisible "em" "radiation" expressed on a surface are amusingly interesting, but utterly unrealistic. Please do not argue with me. Please join me in converting the misguided population into accepting the simple truth about our real visible Universe..
Joe Fisher, Realist
Joe, you use the word "illuminated". As you have included it you must consider it an important fact. What does "illuminated by light" mean to you? How is it that a surface can be seen when illuminated but not in complete darkness?
You almost have it Steve. But please remember it am infinite surface, not finite "matter."
Joe Fisher, Realist
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Dear Georgina,
Simplicity cannot be simplified.. There am only one singular unified infinite surface occurring in one infinite dimension that am always illuminated by infinite non-surface light. This is what you seem to fail to understand: you can create a seeming condition of finite "darkness' by building a finitely sized "darkroom," But such activity is unnatural, and confounds all rational understanding of the simple nature of the real Universe entirely.
Joe Fisher, Realist
Total Absence of light is rare, however I have been inside a natural cave system where there was no light at all. Yet it still had cave wall surfaces, un-seeable until torches were put on again. The tour guide had told us to turn them off so that we could experience the rare complete darkness, that did not resolve into some night vision sight but remained completely dark after minutes of waiting.
Dear Georgina,
That is very interesting, but please remember that the creatures with the largest eyes are the monstrous fish that live in the deepest parts of the oceans. Obviously, human sight only operates within a certain range. But there must be infinity of sight that is only capable of spotting infinite surface that am always illuminated by infinite non-surface light..
Joe Fisher, Realist
The universe is finite and not infinite. The notion of infinity or infinitesimal are often a useful fictions but have no existence as matter or action. All matter and action are made up of finite particles and making infinity or the infinitesimal into a real thing essentially allows any kind of law in for the universe.
Just like a black hole is a useful fiction, there is no real existences for the matter within a black hole.
Dear Steve,
The Universe cannot possibly be "finite." Human abstract "finite" notions about imaginary infinity are utterly useless. Nature has provided the simplest of visible physical construct. The real Universe consists only of one singular visible unified infinite surface occurring in one singular infinite dimension that am always illuminated by infinite non-surface light.
Joe Fisher, Realist
Supposing the universe is infinite is simply another way of supposing the universe is anything you want it to be. An infinite universe might have infinite constants, infinite dimensions, or even infinite multiverses. Since there is no way to measure infinity, an infinite universe is not subject to validation by measurement.
Since an infinite universe can explain any measurement, the notion is simply not that useful for prediction of the action of matter...
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Dear Steve,
Please try to understand that infinite surface am not a humanly devised abstract finite supposition. Nature has provided the SIMPLEST visible Universe obtainable. The real Universe consists only of one singular visible unified infinite surface occurring in one singular infinite dimension that am always illuminated by infinite non-surface light.
Joe Fisher, Realist
Please understand that an infinite anything is unknowable and unmeasurable and thus simply not useful for prediction of matter action. Infinities and infinitesimals are very useful tools for integration and differentiation but do not really have meaning in a finite matter universe.
An infinite universe is anything that you want it to be and that is its allure. To predict finite action of finite matter, infinities are not very useful...
Dearn Steve,
There am no such a thing as a humanly contrived abstract infinite "anything." Please stop trying to understand complex unsubstantiated nonsensical laws about finite independent scientific measurement. Nature has provided the SIMPLEST visible Universe obtainable. The real Universe consists only of one singular visible unified infinite SURFACE occurring in one singular infinite dimension that am always illuminated by infinite NON-SURFACE light.
Joe Fisher, Realist
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Your infinities are pretty much the same as mainstream science infinities and do explain anything that you want them to explain...that is what infinities do and that is what makes them so alluring.
By explaining everything, infinities actually explain nothing and so there is not useful future for infinity...
Dear Steve,
I have never once mentioned "infinities."
Obviously, Nature must have provided the simplest visible physical construction obtainable. The real Universe consists only of ONE SINGULAR VISIBLE UNIFIED SURFACE OCCURING IN ONE INFINITE DIMENSION THAT AM ALWAYS ILLUMINATED BY INFINITE NON_SURFACE LIGHT>
Joe Fisher, Realist
Once you have one infinity, you have an infinity of infinities and infinity will explain anything...and so infinity will really not be very useful for prediction of the future of matter action.
Once you claim infinity as a solution, you can explain anything and therefore predict nothing...
Dear Steve,
According to an incomprehensible article published on line at the SPACE.com website:
"Nearly 14 billion years ago, there was nothing and nowhere. Then, due to a random fluctuation in a completely empty void, a universe exploded into existence. Something the size of a subatomic particle inflated to unimaginably huge size in a fraction of a second, driven apart by negative-pressure vacuum energy. Scientists call this (complicated) theory for the origin of the universe the Big Bang."
The best guess the abstraction addicted physicists can make is that their imaginary universe might collapse in a big crunch.
Nature has provided us with the most predictable reality possible. I can guarantee that only one singular visible infinite surface occurring in one singular infinite dimension that am always illuminated by infinite non-surface light had no finite expanding commencement and will never experience a finite crunching contraction, because it is of infinite duration.
Joe Fisher, Realist
The advantage to believing in infinity is that it explains an infinite number of different observations and nothing can contradict a well-contructed infinity...and so infinity does not make unique predictions of future possibilities.
Notice that you mentioned a random fluctuation in an empty void as starting the universe, but space did not yet exist and so there was no such thing as a void. Nothing, you see, is an abstraction that science uses to explain the presence of space and the absence of matter.
The universe did not really begin as a matter fluctuation in space but as a fluctuation in spacetime and that fluctuation was a very compact space and matter source. Expanding is a bit of a misnomer since that term implies that the universe expands into a space outside of the universe, which of course is impossible.
And so it is certain that you will continue to use infinity to explain infinity, the ultimate do-loop, but it is not clear to me how infinity helps to predict the possible futures of sources...
Dear Steve,
Perhaps this might be a good time for you to invest in taking a remedial English language reading class... For the last time, ONLY NATURE COULD PRODUCE THE SIMPLEST VISIBLE STRUCTURE. THE REAL UNIVERSE MUST CONSIST ONLY OF ONE SINGULAR VISIBLE UNIFIED INFINITE SURFACE OCCURRING IN ONE SINGULAR INFINITE DIMENSION THAT AM ALWAYS ILLUMINATED BY INFINITE NON_SURFACE LIGHT. I cited the abstract empty void stated in the space.com article. There has never been any finite space that could have come before, or after, or during any phase of any reality. INFINITE SURFACE HAS TO BE INFINITE IN ALL ASPECTS INCLUDING DURATION.
Joe Fisher, Realist