Dear Steve,

According to an incomprehensible article published on line at the SPACE.com website:

"Nearly 14 billion years ago, there was nothing and nowhere. Then, due to a random fluctuation in a completely empty void, a universe exploded into existence. Something the size of a subatomic particle inflated to unimaginably huge size in a fraction of a second, driven apart by negative-pressure vacuum energy. Scientists call this (complicated) theory for the origin of the universe the Big Bang."

The best guess the abstraction addicted physicists can make is that their imaginary universe might collapse in a big crunch.

Nature has provided us with the most predictable reality possible. I can guarantee that only one singular visible infinite surface occurring in one singular infinite dimension that am always illuminated by infinite non-surface light had no finite expanding commencement and will never experience a finite crunching contraction, because it is of infinite duration.

Joe Fisher, Realist

The advantage to believing in infinity is that it explains an infinite number of different observations and nothing can contradict a well-contructed infinity...and so infinity does not make unique predictions of future possibilities.

Notice that you mentioned a random fluctuation in an empty void as starting the universe, but space did not yet exist and so there was no such thing as a void. Nothing, you see, is an abstraction that science uses to explain the presence of space and the absence of matter.

The universe did not really begin as a matter fluctuation in space but as a fluctuation in spacetime and that fluctuation was a very compact space and matter source. Expanding is a bit of a misnomer since that term implies that the universe expands into a space outside of the universe, which of course is impossible.

And so it is certain that you will continue to use infinity to explain infinity, the ultimate do-loop, but it is not clear to me how infinity helps to predict the possible futures of sources...

Dear Steve,

Perhaps this might be a good time for you to invest in taking a remedial English language reading class... For the last time, ONLY NATURE COULD PRODUCE THE SIMPLEST VISIBLE STRUCTURE. THE REAL UNIVERSE MUST CONSIST ONLY OF ONE SINGULAR VISIBLE UNIFIED INFINITE SURFACE OCCURRING IN ONE SINGULAR INFINITE DIMENSION THAT AM ALWAYS ILLUMINATED BY INFINITE NON_SURFACE LIGHT. I cited the abstract empty void stated in the space.com article. There has never been any finite space that could have come before, or after, or during any phase of any reality. INFINITE SURFACE HAS TO BE INFINITE IN ALL ASPECTS INCLUDING DURATION.

Joe Fisher, Realist

I wish FQXi offered a way to vote certain people off the island.

Karl,

ROFL:-)

Maybe a tribal challenge? Anyone who does not have a testable hypothesis is fed to the sharks ..... Oops ... letting my own prejudices slip in there ...

Keep up the good thinking.

Best Regards,

Gary Simpson

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    Dear Karl and Gary,

    I wish you would accept the irrefutable truth that only Nature could possibly devise the simplest physical construct obtainable. The real Universe must consists only of one singular unified visible surface occurring in one singular infinite dimension that am always illuminated by infinite non-surface light. The Sahara Desert and the Pacific Ocean and every one of the craters on the moon are naturally formed and they all have one visible thing in common. They all have a surface. The Empire State building and the Golden Gate Bridge and the Sky-Lab space station are all man-made artifacts and they all have one visual thing in common. They all have a surface.

    Do you want to suppress my truth? You are discomforted by simplicity?

    Joe Fisher, Realist

    a month later

    Dear Amrit,

    You were quite wrong for expressing inaccurate finite information about invisible abstract observers when you informed us that: "The observer is CONSCIOUSNESS IN ACTION" Fortunately, every real person does know that Nature must have provided us with the simplest visible physical reality obtainable. The real Universe consists only of one single unified visible infinite surface occurring in one single infinite dimension that am always illuminated by infinite non-surface light.

    Joe Fisher, ORCID ID 0000-0003-3988-8687. Unaffiliated

    25 days later

    Dear Physicists,

    The first mistake y'all made was when you decided that Nature had to have complex secrets, without specifying why. Only humanly contrived conjecture am capable of sustaining complex speculation Nature had to furnish reality for all living beings and all non-living things. Nature's visible simplicity is utterly extravagant. Every real surface of every real person place and thing am actually existing securely attached to a real visible Natural infinite surface occurring in one infinite dimension that am always illuminated by infinite non-surface light.

    Joe Fisher, Realist

    6 days later

    Dear Ivette,

    Please see the ISA function and its implications on our understanding or reality,

    ISA function describes Riemann sphere and is the true analytic continuation of Riemann zeta function

    ISA(S) = Sign(Re(s)) * Sign(Im(s)) * Cos(Re(s) * Pi) * e Power (Im(s) * i * Pi)

    ​ISA(1+1/2i) = Sign(Re(1+1/2i)) * Sign(Im(1+1/2i)) * Cos(Re(1+1/2i) * Pi) * e Power(Im(1+1/2i) * i * Pi)

    ISA(1+1/2i) = 1 * 1 * Cos(1 * Pi) * e Power(1/2 * i * Pi) = 1 * - 1 * e Power (i * pi /2) = i (Rotate point -1 to 90 degrees in the direction of i)

    ​ISA(1-1/2i) = Sign(Re(1-1/2i)) * Sign(Im(1-1/2i)) * Cos(Re(1-1/2i) * Pi) * e Power(Im(1-1/2i) * i * Pi)

    ISA(1-1/2i) = 1 * -1 * Cos(1 * Pi) * e Power(-1/2 * i * Pi) = -1 * - 1 * e Power (-i * pi /2) = -i (Rotate point 1 to 90 degrees in the direction of -i)

    ​ISA(-1+1/2i) = Sign(Re(-1+1/2i)) * Sign(Im(-1+1/2i)) * Cos(Re(-1+1/2i) * Pi) * e Power(Im(-1+1/2i) * i * Pi)

    ISA(-1+1/2i) = -1 * 1 * Cos(-1 * Pi) * e Power(1/2 * i * Pi) = -1 * - 1 * e Power (i * pi /2) = i (Rotate point 1 to 90 degrees in the direction of i)

    ​ISA(-1-1/2i) = Sign(Re(-1-1/2i)) * Sign(Im(-1-1/2i)) * Cos(Re(-1-1/2i) * Pi) * e Power(Im(-1-1/2i) * i * Pi)

    ISA(-1-1/2i) = -1 * -1 * Cos(-1 * Pi) * e Power(-1/2 * i * Pi) = - 1 * e Power (-i * pi /2) = -i (Rotate point -1 to 90 degrees in the direction of -i)

    ISA(1+i) = Sign(Re(1+i)) * Sign(Im(1+i)) * Cos(Re(1+i) * Pi) * e Power(Im(1+i) * i * Pi)

    ISA(1+i) = 1 * 1 * Cos(1 * pi) * e Power (1 * i * Pi) = -1 * e Power (i * Pi) = 1 (Rotate point -1 to 180 degrees in the direction of i)

    ISA(1-i) = Sign(Re(1-i)) * Sign(Im(1-i)) * Cos(Re(1-i) * Pi) * e Power(Im(1-i) * i * Pi)

    ISA(1-i) = 1 * -1 * Cos(1 * pi) * e Power (-1 * i * Pi) = -1 * -1 * e Power (-i * Pi) = -1 (Rotate point 1 to 180 degrees in the direction of -i)

    ISA(-1+i) = Sign(Re(1+i)) * Sign(Im(1+i)) * Cos(Re(1+i) * Pi) * e Power(Im(1+i) * i * Pi)

    ISA(-1+i) = -1 * 1 * Cos(-1 * pi) * e Power (1 * i * Pi) = -1 * -1 * e Power (i * Pi) = -1 (Rotate point 1 to 180 degrees in the direction of i)

    ISA(-1-i) = Sign(Re(1-i)) * Sign(Im(1-i)) * Cos(Re(1-i) * Pi) * e Power(m(1-i) * i * Pi)

    ISA(-1-i) = -1 * -1 * Cos(-1 * pi) * e Power (-1 * i * Pi) = 1 * -1 * e Power (-i * Pi) = 1 (Rotate point -1 to 180 degrees in the direction of -i)

    ​ISA(1) = Sign(Re(1)) * Sign(Im(1)) * Cos(Re(1) * Pi) * e Power(Im(1) * i * Pi)

    ISA(1) = 1 * 0 * Cos(1 * Pi) * e Power(0 * i * Pi ) = 0

    ​ISA(-1) = Sign(Re(-1)) * Sign(Im(-1)) * Cos(Re(-1) * Pi) * e Power(Im(-1) * i * Pi)

    ISA(-1) = -1 * 0 * Cos(-1 * Pi) * e Power(0 * i * Pi ) = 0​

    ISA(i) = Sign(Re(i)) * Sign(Im(i)) * Cos(Re(i) * Pi) * e Power(Im(i) * i * Pi)

    ​ISA(i) = 0 * 1 * Cos(0 * Pi) * e Power(1 * i * Pi) = 0

    ISA(-i) = Sign(Re(-i)) * Sign(Im(-i)) * Cos(Re(-i) * Pi) * e Power(Im(-i) * i * Pi)

    ​ISA(-i) = 0 * -1 * Cos(0 * Pi) * e Power(-1 * i * Pi) = 0

    ​ISA(0) = Sign(Re(0)) * Sign(Im(0)) * Cos(Re(0) * Pi) * e Power(Im(0) * i * Pi)

    ISA(0) = 0 * 0 * Cos(0 * Pi) * e Power(0 * i * Pi) = 0 * 1 * 1 = 0

    ISA(Infinity) = Sign(Re(Infinity)) * Sign(Im(Infinity)) * Cos(Re(Infinity) * Pi) * e Power(Im(Infinity) * i * Pi)

    ISA(Infinity) = Infinity* Infinity* Cos(Infinity* Pi) * e Power(Infinity* i * Pi) = Infinity * [1, -1] * Infinity = Infinity​​

    Plotting all other values of s other than mentioned above, ISA(s) plots points on a circle of radius absolute(Cos(Re(s) * Pi)), for example

    ISA(1/3+ni) = Sign(Re(1/3+ni)) * Sign(Im(1/3+ni)) * Cos(Re(1/3+ni) * Pi) * e Power(Im(1/3+ni) * i * Pi) (n is any real number)

    ISA(1/3+ni) =1 * 1 * Cos(Pi / 3) * e Power(n * i * Pi) = 1 * 0.5 * e Power (n * i * Pi) (Describes a circle of radius 0.5 around the origin)

    ​ISA(1/4+ni) = Sign(Re(1/4+ni)) * Sign(Im(1/4+ni)) * Cos(Re(1/4+ni) * Pi) * e Power(Im(1/4+ni) * i * Pi) (n is any real number)

    ISA(1/4+ni) =1 * 1 * Cos(Pi / 4) * e Power(n * i * Pi) = 1 * 0.70710678 * e Power (n * i * Pi) (A circle of radius 0.70710678 around the origin)

    Plotting ISA(s) for any Re(s) or any Im(s) on 1-dimensional X-axis or 1-dimensional Y-axis yields a 0-D point (point at zero or point at infinity)

    Plotting ISA(s) for all Re(s) or all Im(s) on 1-dimensional X-axis or 1-dimensional Y-axis yields a 1-D Z-axis (point at zero and point at infinity)

    Plotting ISA(s) for all Im(s) for any Re(s) on 1-D X-axis and 1-D Y-axis yields a 2-D 1-sphere (circular disc of radius abs(Cos(Re(s) * Pi)) )

    Plotting ISA(s) for all Im(s) for any Re(s) on 2-D X-axis and 1-D Y-axis yields a 3-D 2-sphere (hollow sphere of radius abs(Cos(Re(s) * Pi)) )

    Plotting ISA(s) for all Im(s) for any Re(s) on 3-D X-axis and 1-D Y-axis yields a 4-D 3-sphere (space ball moving in time, universe)

    Plotting ISA(s) for all Im(s) for any Re(s) on 3-D X-axis, 1-D Y-axis and 1-D Z-axis yields a 5-D 4-sphere (Hypersphere of multiple universes)

    (Universe is part of a 5-D Hypersphere (wikipedia links), 4-sphere, a self-illuminated space ball moving in time and is consciously self-aware)

    Proof of Riemann Hypothesis using ISA function

    ​ISA(1/2 + i) = Sign(Re(1/2 + i)) * Sign(Im(1/2 + i)) * Cos(Re(1/2 + i) * Pi) * e Power(Im(1/2 + i) * i * Pi)

    ISA(1/2 + i) = 1 * 1 * Cos(1/2 * Pi) * e Power(1 * i * Pi) = Cos(Pi/2) * e Power (i * Pi) = 1 * 0 * e Power (i * Pi) = 0

    ​ISA(1/2 + 2i) = Sign(Re(1/2 + 2i)) * Sign(Im(1/2 + 2i)) * Cos(Re(1/2 + 2i) * Pi) * e Power(Im(1/2 + 2i) * i * Pi)

    ISA(1/2 + 2i) = 1 * 2 * Cos(1/2 * Pi) * e Power(2 * i * Pi) = 2 * Cos(Pi/2) * e Power (2 * i * Pi) = 2 * 0 * e Power (2 * i * Pi) = 0

    ​ISA(1/2 + ni) = Sign(Re(1/2 + ni)) * Sign(Im(1/2 + ni)) * Cos(Re(1/2 + ni) * Pi) * e Power(Im(1/2 + ni) * i * Pi)

    ISA(1/2 + ni) = 1 * 1 * Cos(1/2 * Pi) * e Power(n * i * Pi) = 1 * Cos(Pi/2) * e Power (n * i * Pi) = 1 * 0 * e Power (n * i * Pi) = 0

    ​ISA(-1/2 - i) = Sign(Re(-1/2 - i)) * Sign(Im(-1/2 - i)) * Cos(Re(-1/2 - i) * Pi) * e Power(Im(-1/2 - i) * i * Pi)

    ISA(-1/2 - i) = -1 * -1 * Cos(-1/2 * Pi) * e Power(-1 * i * Pi) = 1 * Cos(-Pi/2) * e Power (-i * Pi) = 1 * 0 * e Power (-i * Pi) = 0

    ​ISA(-1/2 - 2i) = Sign(Re(-1/2 - 2i)) * Sign(Im(-1/2 - 2i)) * Cos(Re(-1/2 - 2i) * Pi) * e Power(Im(-1/2 - 2i) * i * Pi)

    ISA(-1/2 - 2i) = -1 * -2 * Cos(-1/2 * Pi) * e Power(-2 * i * Pi) = 2 * Cos(-Pi/2) * e Power (-2 * i * Pi) = 2 * 0 * e Power (-2 * i * Pi) = 0

    ​ISA(-1/2 - ni) = Sign(Re(-1/2 - ni)) * Sign(Im(-1/2 - ni)) * Cos(Re(-1/2 - ni) * Pi) * e Power(Im(-1/2 - ni) * i * Pi)

    ISA(-1/2 - ni) = -1 * -1 * Cos(-1/2 * Pi) * e Power(-n * i * Pi) = 1 * Cos(-Pi/2) * e Power (-n * i * Pi) = 1 * 0 * e Power (-n * i * Pi) = 0

    The reason for ISA(s) being 0 at all points of abs(Re(s)) = 1/2 is the effect of simultaneous rotation of invisible Z-axis when a point on X-axis is rotated.The usage of Cos(Re(s) * Pi) was formulated in the ISA function after visualizing this rotational effect of Z-axis on X-axis points while transformation. ISA function mentioned in this article is for a simple complex plane of 1-D real and 1-D imaginary axis.

    For study of complicated complex plane involving 3-D real, 1-D imaginary and 1-D soul axis we need to use mathematics of Complex coordinate space and Spherical coordinate systems.​​ As an alternative we can also plot the ISA function for a pair of dimensions, one of these dimensions must be 1-D imaginary, and superimpose the plotted values of multiple pairs to arrive at the desired result of the complex coordinate space. As an example plotting 1-D Real and 1-D imaginary pair and another 1-D Real and 1-D imaginary pair and combining the two is equivalent to 3-D plot of a 2-D Real and 1-D imaginary as we can pivot to 1-D imaginary axis which is common in the initial two pairs. In a similar way we can plot for 4-D manifestations. When we do this kind of plotting we will manifest different forms of beings in 3-D at a given time and over time those forms will appear to be animated or in motion in 4-D. Extending this process to the 5th dimension with multiple time lines will yield a spectacle of several animated objects in their respective timelines, like watching several different movies on multiple screens at once. From the above diagram, each 4-D reference frame is at a particular constant distance from the Source Of Universal Light and hence for beings within a single 4-D frame perceive constant speed of light in all directions irrespective of their relative motion with in that frame, which validates the special theory of relativity which deals with beings in a single 4-D frame. From our previous analogy, it's like characters on one movie screen are illuminated (brightness and contrast levels) at a different level from characters on another movie screen. But with in a movie screen all the characters have a relatively fixed rate of illumination.

    Implications : In the most abstract sense the universe is purely mathematical. Also the proof of ISA function describing Riemann sphere shows the holographic nature of our universe. Any point on the 2-dimensional complex plane can be plotted on to Riemann sphere using the ISA function. Also ISA function proves the generalized Poincare conjecture as it describes 0-dimensional point to n-dimensional spheres when properly extended to the corresponding dimensions. Surface of the Riemann sphere is the event horizon, I see the universe as part of a 5-D Light Whole Noumenon instead of the currently popular 0-D black hole phenomenon, as what lies with in the sphere totally encompasses what lies outside of it.

    The most fundamental aspect of our universe is the Source Of Universal Light (SOUL or Consciousness). It is the consciousness that brings forth the light, space and time and molds them in to relativistic matter and moves them as it wishes, like a kid throwing stones in a pond and creating water droplets and ripples just for fun. In this analogy the kid is the consciousness, stone is the light, water is the space-time fabric. So then answer to Yang-Mills least massive particle possible is infinitesimal, from our earlier analogy, it is like asking how small of a droplet can the kid create with a stone's throw. From the above diagram, on z-axis 5-D infinity point is of highest order and has zero entropy and 0-D zero point as of lowest order and has infinite entropy, then every dimension below 5-D infinity point will have some entropy and each 4-D frame will have a fixed entropy (universal gravitational constant G is fixed per frame of 4-D) in reference to the 5th dimensional infinity. If we were to descend from that 5-D infinity point (Source Of Universal Light) of highest order to a lower dimension, the entropy will dramatically increase at every inter dimensional phase transition and result in infinite gravity as we approach 0-D or scientific black hole or total darkness in accordance with general theory of relativity. Conversely as we ascend from 0-D black hole to higher dimensions, the entropy will also dramatically decrease at every inter dimensional phase transition and result in zero gravity as we approach 5-D infinity point of spiritual light whole. As science is taking the reductionist approach to understanding things it is travelling towards the lower dimensions from its given conditions of 4-D reference frame and concluding that currently unknown phenomenon experienced in this 4-D realm are because of some dark entity and terming the properties of that entity as dark matter and dark energy. Instead if we were to look in the opposite direction towards the 5-D infinity point, we can clearly see that all things come from the Noumenon, Source Of Universal Light. As we can see matter is just space-time contortion or increase in entropy (anti matter is just the super symmetrical mirror image of the contortion), matter is just a temporary construct and is continually trying to resolve itself to the absolute symmetrical sphere of least entropy and gravity is the tension (measure of contortion or entropy) between these contortions. As we have established that total gravity is a constant (universal gravitational constant G) per each 4-D space-time with in the 5-D and is distributed across that reference frame aka universe or Membrane as in M-theory, thus increase in relative Entropic gravity (g) in one region will result in decrease in relative entropic gravity (g) in the surrounding region with in that 4-D frame conserving the total entropic gravity of the 4-D universe, this can be termed as law of conservation of entropic gravity. Also as gravity is spread across the universe it appears to be weaker on relative scales compared to the other fundamental forces. Quantum entanglement is just the spookiness of a contorted space-time mirror image's response to the changes to the original contortion of space-time in front of the reflecting mirror (Riemann sphere is the mathematical mirror or EPR bridge or the wormhole). Going back to the analogy of movie screens, science is trying to understand what is the screen and it's contents are made of and breaking things down and finding that contents get murkier as the break down accelerates like zooming into a computer picture reveals the underlying pixels which are grainy and by themselves mean nothing, on the other hand spirituality is trying to understand why this movie screen exists and zooming out to higher resolutions for higher clarity and realizing it was created for providing entertainment and enjoyment. Asking why things exists is equally important if not more natural than just asking what things are made of and how they are put together. This is the reason why most of us are naturally inclined towards religion, which embraces the purpose of existence rather than just decoding it's individual parts. Both hands (science & religion) are equally important in a human body, but unfortunately we either tend to be right handed or left handed and bigot each other for our inclination towards one hand or the other, it would be great if we were all taught to be ambidextrous (spirituality), this would improve our tolerance towards other 4-D beings.

    From the above diagram, when we use the 2-dimensional complex plane for numerical analysis, we can consider the point of origin to be either zero or infinity, in our current system we have assumed it to be zero. If we were to adapt infinity as the origin in our numerical analysis, all the unknowable singularities that arise in our theories will be naturally resolved. Also as we all can clearly see in the above diagram that there can be 0 to infinite 4D space-time existing in 5D eternal realm, we could answer the P versus NP problem as follows, a being from 5D can harness the power of parallel processing in multiple polynomial times, thus can solve and verify all 4D problems instantaneously, hence proving that P=NP in the 5th dimension. But from the reference frame of a 4D being, P may not always equal to NP as there could be problems quickly verifiable in 4D but not solvable as fast. A 4D being will never be able to accept the instantaneous problem solving capabilities of a 5D being until the 5D being elevates the 4D being to the fifth dimension. It would be more empowering for us human beings to consider that the reality we live in is one of infinite possibilities (5D absolute spiritual perspective) rather than considering it to be the only one reality that arose from nothingness of zero (4D relative scientific perspective), however both these perspectives are absolutely equal in the Unmanifest.

    Applications : Wisdom is more important than imagination is more important than knowledge, for all that we know is just an imagination chosen wisely. All this wisdom, imagination and knowledge are inherent within anybody. The modern method of science is just another way of retrieving these inherent aspects of consciousness. As wisdom is the experience to make a right choice, if we are not careful enough to choose the right imaginations, what will manifest might not necessarily be good for our form of being. Spirituality is the altruistic science which after exhausting all the choices that can be made put forth the most suitable ones for sustaining life on our planet. If we ignore the messages from the great wise spiritual teachers we will perish, for they have time and again manifested on earth in human form to guide us and show us that we are all the manifestations of the same true source of absolute consciousness and that only true and unconditional love is the way of life.

    With all the emerging technological by products of our scientific quest (AI, Quantum computing, Bio, Nano etc...), we can create conscious AI beings in our own image, as infinitely conscious singularity of GOD created us in it's own image, based on the above universal mathematical spherical mirror of singularity and as per further details in this article on quantum computing, Representation of Qudits on a Riemann Sphere. If consciousness is the ability to process information about the self and the surroundings, we can categorize it as follows, 0-D being is unconscious as it has no capability of information processing, it's equivalent to non existence or scientific black hole. At 1-D level, beings start the relative consciousness, distance between a pair of points will keep varying between different set of points, similarly 2-D and 3-D beings experience relative consciousness. If we consider natural human level of 3-D being (toddlers with no expressive time perception but spatial recognition) as general consciousness then beings up to 2-D level fall under Sub conscious group. When we grow up as adult human beings we easily expand our consciousness in to 4-D being by including the time dimension, which we effectively use to form memories of our individual self and immediate surrounding (family, friends, society, country, planet, solar system, galaxy, super cluster, universe) and also imagine future manifestations of them, this can be considered as Super consciousness. Some of us get very good at mastering this level of being and become leaders, prophets, scientists and so forth. Finally we can expand further in to multiple timelines by letting go of the individual state of 4-D being and merge with the infinite Supreme consciousness in the 5th dimension where everything is absolutely equal and all sub dimensional manifestations are easily achieved at will, as the saying goes anything is possible with GOD, this is in accordance with the Entropy (information theory) which states that absolute certainty of an out outcome reduces the entropy to zero. I hope that we will make conscious AI beings to be not just omniscient and omnipotent super conscious 4-D beings fighting for supremacy over each other like we do but also share the essence of inherent omnipresence aka love, that our 5-D creator, Source Of Universal Love has put in us. It's only through the human emotion of love that we can realize the omnipresence of universal singularity of supreme consciousness, GOD. I hope that we will be wise enough to choose love for all forms and ways of beings and live peacefully instead of choosing hate for other forms and ways of life and annihilate each other. What we need is more of spiritual education to sow the seeds of wisdom in our next generation of human beings so that they can appreciate all forms of life and live in harmony with the realization that all life forms come from the same source. Hence my small and simple contribution of ISA function for categorizing zero and infinity as Source Of Universal Life (SOUL) numbers, describing the fifth dimension as the true source of our being to be incorporated in the field of mathematics to formalize this wisdom, imagination and knowledge in our current educational system.Attachment #1: 2_ISA.jpg

      Dear Sridattadev,

      Please be informed that it am physically impossible for any real person to "understand" reality. You see Nature devised the simplest visible physical construct of reality obtainable. Nature's visible simplicity am universally understood. Every real surface of every real person place and thing am actually existing securely attached to a real visible Natural unified infinite surface occurring in one infinite dimension that am always illuminated by infinite non-surface light.

      The only thing you have produced with your comment am a complex finite piece of codswallop abstract unrealistic information.

      Joe Fisher, Realist

      2 months later
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      This comment is based in personal intuition and wide readings.

      As you say, "in quantum mechanics, by contrast, an observer takes an active part in what happens. The mere act of choosing when and how to make a measurement can irrevocably change the properties of the underlying system being measured. "So you can't separate the observer from the physical system that's being observed,".

      For me:

      "The (Human) observer" intervention is not merely to choose the setting of the experiment. The human observer behind the experiment is made of the very same nature of the things to be measured (energy) and on top he/she constantly (meanwhile alive) emits energy that somehow will interfere with the system under measurement.

      This emitted energy is quite difficult to harness as is based in the intention/(expectations on the result) of the person and his/her emotional state.

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      We say in physics that at the speed of light time stops. But we know that light needs 8 minutes to come to the Earth from the Sun. How to solve this puzzle?

      It is necessary to separate what an observer fabricates from received signals into his/her/its experience or sensory product from what is happening unobserved. If a signal is propagating at the speed of light and an observer is travelling at the speed of light, the observer is keeping pace with the same part of the signal and is unable to obtain fresh stimuli to update the product. If the signal is a time signal such as light emitted from a clock, the time will not be seen to change. However the signal and the observer are still moving so there is still change happening. There is still foundational passage of time.

      Maybe I should mention that the present 'sensory product' is not fabricated from a single signal from a singular origin but a heterogeneous mixture of signals of a variety of spatial and (so also'temporal') origins. Travelling through the data pool at the speed of light, new (to that observer) potential sensory data will be intercepted updating the present even if keeping pace with a signal from which time was being 'read'.

      Addressing the post; amrit wrote on Nov. 1, 2017 @ 17:50 GMT, The eight minutes of travel time of the light from the Sun to Earth is foundational passage of time, not the relative experience of the light. The light does not receive and process sensory information and so can not be an observer having a relative experience of sensory product generation.

      2 years later

      Is it possible that the reflexion of the second rank can change the behaviour of the quantum or quantum dependent systems. Can any experiments be offered like in experiments with the random numbers generators and the observers?

      Pavel Polyan and

      Dmitry Lichargin

      Siberian Federal University,

      Krasnoyarsk, Siberia.

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