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Pavel Poluian

  • Joined Apr 23, 2020
  • In middle ages latin language the word spacium had akso a meaning of time.

    So, the photones fill the space representing the connection of time and distance as speed imfluencing the relativistic proportions of measuring mass and the speed of the time itself.

    Well, this is the continuation of the story with a sort of new turn for us to cinsider.

    Thank you for your interesting apprach being explained.

    P. Poluian and

    D. Lichargin

  • This is in fact probably the mist interesting essay in this contest.

    The ideas concerning Giedel's theorem always form the framewirk of the pure science so to say.

    My greatest respect to the ideas we can enjoy from it.

    Yours Truly,

    D.Lichargin

    and P. Poluian

  • Dear Sir,

    Today we have two opposite views on the computational idea of interpreting the Universe.

    The first is that we can use a so to say computer metaphor, or a game or chess metaphor in interpreting the universe behaviour.

    The next one is the idea that the universe is in fact a sort of computational supercluster. The idea is definitely derived even from Vedas and anscient yogies that clamed, the illusion of the solid and stuff stem all around us.

    The idealism is also extremely close to this, while the 19th century represented the multiple formes of the classical idea we walk around till today.

    But, within this new milestones appear with the new forse.

    That is why your investigation is among them, to make better stress on the stuff the human reasoning has became closer to.

    Please, alse view our modest results in "new ontology ..." key words in the search here.

    Hope for possible future collaboration with you.

    Trully yours,

    orderist55555@gmail.com

    Pavel Poluian and Dmitry Lichargin

    Looking forward for more ideas

    • Dear Doc! )))

      Thank you for your interest in the philosophy of the times. This is a difficult question.

      In modern nature study the geometrical interpretation of time prevails. In the twentieth century the philosophers of science, for example McTaggart (1908) and up to Julian Barbour (1999), the duration of the time refered to the sphere of subjectivity . The objectivity is a property of a the sequence of events and corresponds to the order of points on a straight line. A similar understanding can be found in the common interpretation of space-time continuum of Minkowski where the temporal dimension has oneness.

      The reduction to the subjectivity is often associated with the name of the Christian theologian - Blessed Augustine. In "Confessions" philosophical work he said that the notion of time is our memories of the Past , our contemplation of the Present and waiting for the future. There is no past, no future, and only in the soul of a human, there are there forms of perception corresponding to them. Nevertheless, it should be kept in mind, that according to this profound theologian, time is a creation of God, and therefore the characteristics of the flowing time are the objective properties of time as the creation. Thus, Blessed Augustine is talking not about reducing time to the properties of the soul, but about structuring the temporal process as it is according to the mental properties.

      In the same period of the early Christianity there was a specific Arian heresy, where God obeys the temporal order. "First, the Father, then the Son" - Arius says. It is interesting that, after a century, Isaac Newton adopted the philosophy of Arianism. This fact has been noted by various historians of science, and we tend to believe that Arian approach is explicitly embodied in the classical idea of the absolute time. Even in a relativistic theory, the global time of the universe retains the absolute inclusiveness of all - all the instants are given on the time axis. The stream of time is in the eternity.

      We have found out that in the modern science two concepts of time coexist - the geometric and the algebraic (the algorithmic). The first approach is well-recognized and is applied with perfect skills, but the second is the one that only now moved to the forefront, thanks to the development of computational tools. Which of these approaches do you like more?

      I am in my essay trying to determine time through the theory of sets. You can view.

      Since you are interested in the mystery of time, I evaluate your essay very positively!

      Yours sincerely -

      Paul Poluian,

      Siberian Federal University

    • Dear Carl Sebastian Andersson!

      I read your essay with interest, because my essay also talks about time.

      You correctly posed the dilemma of unpredictability and randomness. But one remark must be added. In our opinion, the essence of the issue is more complicated. Еven the events of the past retain their uncertainty - according to the Heisenberg uncertainty relation. That is, not only the FUTURE is uncertain, but even the PAST (at least for microparticles). 

      Perhaps you are right: the collapse of the wave function in some way determines the direction of time. You are probably right.)))

      As for dark matter ... I think this is a field of hypothetical search. I wrote a book about DM. book: "The Death of Dark Matter: Philosophical Principles in Physical Cognition." I write there that non-baryonic dark matter is the "idol of the scientific subconscious" (You can download the file at Internet)

      Since I found a similarity between our approaches, I decided to give you a positively rating. I hope that you will also read my essay.

      New ontology: algorithmic laws and the flow of time by Pavel Vadimovich Poluian

      https://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/3509

      I wish you the realization of your bold ideas and projects.

      Yours sincerely -

      Paul Poluian,

      Siberian Federal University

    • I really enjoyed your essay. I am glad that you are critical of the fantastic hypothesis of non-baryonic Dark Matter. I wrote about this in my book "The Death of Dark Matter: Philosophical Principles in Physical Cognition." I write there that non-baryonic dark matter is the "idol of the scientific subconscious". (You can download the file at Internet.) Since I found a similarity between our approaches, I decided to give you a rating positively. I hope that you will also read my essay and evaluate it positively.

      New ontology: algorithmic laws and the flow of time by Pavel Vadimovich Poluian

      I wish you the realization of your bold ideas and projects.

      Yours sincerely -

      Paul Poluian,

      Siberian Federal University

    • You have chosen a great theme! But you come from standard concepts of time. We introduce a new concept of time. The following definitions are given: 1) there is a set that we call "Time"; 2) this set consists of an infinite number of individual elements, which we call "Moments"; 3) all elements of a given set have a peculiarity: if one element is REAL, all other elements of the set are UNREAL; 4) we will call sets of this type - "AREAL SETS". It was found that the elementary areal relation is a logical law of contradiction: statements A and NOT-A together form an areal set of two elements.

      Formulating the law of contradiction, Aristotle and all the logicians after him constantly emphasized: there cannot be A and NOT-A in the same respect at the same TIME. We propose to rearrange the emphasis: in our formulation, AREALITY is a special logical relation that can simulate natural Time. The proposed ontology is related to the definition and introduction of the digital physics paradigm.

      Since we and you are thinking about time, we will give you a high rating. Honor our essay. Let's continue the conversation)))

      • The most difficult question is another. There is space, it is a void around us. There is a void. And here is the point - is it there? Or is it completely a work of our mind? I also thought about it. I have a hypothesis. A point is a puncture in the metric. This is real NOTHING. There really are points around us! They live some kind of their own life ..................................................................

        Probably, we think only thanks to them.)))

        Since we are thinking about points, we will give you a high rating. Honor our essay. Let's continue the conversation)))

      • In our opinion, the conflict of quantum mechanics and continuum of relativistic concepts due to the fact that the latter are based on the standard geometry (space-to-us ---- phenomenon). Meanwhile, the real emptiness around us (space-in-itself ---- noumenon) is essentially different - it is algebraic, discrete, digital.

        We want to say that your idea is half true. Mind modeling the space using our designs, which depend on practice. But cognition is ALREADY SET - this is the essence of our mind.

        Thus, we take Kant's classical approach into account, but we change it taking into account Descartes' dualism and mathematical Platonism. As a result, metaphysics of panentheism is revealed (Karl Krause, Semyon Frank, Nikolai Berdyaev). With this in mind, we proposed to revise the basic concepts of space, time and motion - with support for the program of Alexander Zinoviev "Logical Physics". This was shown in our competitive work.

        Since we found a similarity between our approaches, we decided to give you a positively rating. We hope that you will also read my essay and evaluate it positively.

        We wish you a successful scientific work!

        Truly yours,

        Pavel Poluian and Dmitry Lichargin,

        Siberian Federal University.

      • Thank you for your interesting essay. I have already read it and evaluated it earlier-very positively. Nevertheless, even if you admit indisputable cogency of all this reasoning, you will remain in the sphere of philosophical metaphysics. To fall outside the limits one needs to find the means of expressing new ontology in the language of universally acknowledged scientific theories. The path you have chosen is very difficult. I wish you success on this path!

      • Thank you for your interesting essay. I have already read it and evaluated it earlier-very positively. Nevertheless, even if you admit indisputable cogency of all this reasoning, you will remain in the sphere of philosophical metaphysics. To fall outside the limits one needs to find the means of expressing new ontology in the language of universally acknowledged scientific theories. The path you have chosen is very difficult. I wish you success on this path!

      • I want to add one more thought. Francis Bacon said, "Knowledge is power!" contrasting this with the biblical truth " For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow". The knowledge of God is sad...

      • Dear Prasad Ramesh Divate!

        I enjoyed reading your essay.

        You write:

        "I think rationalism is awareness of selfexistence and beyond it is the ultimate reality that is completeness. So one can say that rationality is incompleteness. According to hindu philosophy incompleteness is nothing but incompleteness in knowledge and existence. . God is unpredictable, uncomputable and undecidable because there is incompleteness in our knowledge and existence. Faith is the only way we can remove our incompleteness and not the intelligence."

        I agree with your thought. But Western philosophy approached a similar idea quite logically. I think, therefore I am" - is the phrase by Rene Descartes, which became a foundation of Western philosophy. Moreover, it can be logically followed with: "I think, therefore I am - therefore thought exists". Having admitted this inevitable conclusion we inevitably face the question whether thought existence is the existence we imply speculating of the being of things and processes in the Universe. Yes, that is true. The progress in the sphere of information technology has shown that one cannot deny the objective nature of information processes as well as the objectiveness of information existence as such. It was the global computerization that made us look at the world from a different angle. "What if the whole of the Universe is a single huge superpowerful self-adaptive computer?" There are certain grounds for this kind of hypothesis. Firstly, electromagnetic waves record and transfer information quite naturally. The eye and the brain work together like a scanner, which enables us to see. Secondly, every atom has several discreet states and can be considered as the initial logical element, a cell in a global information structure. Thus, one should admit that we say "Thought exists!" because we realize the fact of its subjective being. Still we trace thought existence because it is the part of objective information reality. As everyone is aware that thought exists in his mind he analogically concludes thought exists in the mind of the other. Now it is high time we admitted that generally this OTHER one is the WHOLE WORLD!

        Descartes was a mathematician and he realized that geometrical forms in space correspond to algebraic numerical forms. He realized that the world of material substance is combined with the world of cognitive substance. I agree with him. I hope you agree with this. I decided to evaluate your essay very positively.

        I wish you the realization of your bold ideas and projects.

        Yours sincerely -

        Paul Poluian,

        Siberian Federal University

        • Dear Dmitry!

          I really enjoyed your essay. I liked the witty introduction of the Q-demon - as a kind of antipode to the Laplace demon. Indeed, if we talk about non-computability, then it is precisely such a demon that opposes Pierre-Simon de Laplace's all-calculating super-being! I agree with your examples. I especially liked the Dark Matter example. I wrote about this book "The Death of Dark Matter: Philosophical Principles in Physical Cognition." I write there that non-baryonic dark matter is the "idol of the scientific subconscious" (can be found on the internet).

          I am also happy to support the scientist from the University of Tartu. In 1982, I was in Tartu on the 350th anniversary of your university. (I was a member of the delegation of Krasnoyarsk state University.)

          I wish you the realization of your bold ideas and projects.

          Yours sincerely -

          Paul Poluian,

          Siberian Federal University

        • Dear Chidi Idika!

          I just read your work, but I didn't understand much there - I still have to think about it. But I like your message. I myself associate Mind with spatial metrics. I think that the effect of consciousness occurs at the border, when the four-dimensional space-time is closed with the quaternionic space-time in one piece. And this is really happening: the closure occurs through an imaginary unit - a quantum segment of the time axis. (I wrote about this in a 2003 article in Numbers in Space - in the conference materials Quantum Mind 2003. )

          I wish you the realization of your bold ideas and projects.

          Yours sincerely -

          Paul Poluian,

          Siberian Federal University

        • Thanks for the comment. I recall the cave of Plato ... And there is a Plato algorithm - exit the cave! I wish you a successful journey to the light!

        • Dear Professor Christian Corda!

          Thank you for your interest in our essay and valuable comments. Judging by the time, the chess metaphor was first introduced by Eddington (he was fond of chess). If you use this metaphor, you can say that all the pieces removed from the board fall into the Black Hole.))) The chess pieces disappear into Nothingness and the game ends)))))

          Thank you for your courtesy. Thank you for your appreciation. You may also be interested in our other works. Pavel Poluian published in Russia a monograph "Death of dark matter: philosophical principles in physical knowledge".

          You can download the file at Internet.

          You may find it interesting.

          Truly yours,

          Pavel Poluian and Dmitry Lichargin,

          Siberian Federal University.

        • Dear Bala Ramanathan Subramanian!

          I was interested in your approach and I looked on the Internet for your other work. I also think that in order to understand man and society it is necessary to involve the principles of quantum mechanics. I also believe that in the Universe there is something like the cosmic Internet with which the human mind can communicate. But such a connection is dangerous (we all know about computer viruses). I agree with the research of Sir Roger Penrose in the field of Quantum Mind. All these issues are debatable and modern science concerns them. But this topic needs to be developed.

          Yours faithfully -

          Pavel Poluain,

          Siberian Federal University

        • Dear Dr. Klingman!

          Thanks for the interesting answer! We are glad that our thoughts coincide and we agree with your comments. The expulsion of ether from physics, we think, was also dictated by ideological considerations. After all, the "luminiferous ether" provides a scientific basis for occult knowledge - etheric bodies, spiritualism, contacts with spirits, etc. After all, if consciousness is an electromagnetic process in the brain, there is a basis for transferring this process to ether in its pure form))) Good luck! Thank you for your courtesy!

          Truly yours,

          Pavel Poluian and Dmitry Lichargin,

          Siberian Federal University.