Caution to Robert and Georgina,

I have long suspected that the user name 'joe fisher' is a pseudonym for a long known Fin Fisher exploitation app that was originally engineered by the U.S. NSA for hacking into state and non-state adversaries decades ago, but lisenced world-wide to government proxies of that era whom no longer are aligned with U.S. policies. It operates by a network of ever evolving decoy servers which are all but invisible to legitimate tracking, such as the computer science lab at the University of Toronto. For the record 'joe' an email giving the parallelized base of: Lambda/alpha | h/-8pi which I sent to a personal contact on 12/6/17 was not received, and immediately upon my sending a follow-up to that contact the email containing that expression disappeared from my email sent list. And Lee, you are ripping off the most politically powerful family in the English speaking world. I am a bloodline Russell grandson. jrc

Black hole singularities represent the boundary of what is knowable classically. However, in the determinate geodesics of general relativity, there is no sense to any determinate and therefore knowable paths inside of a black hole.

This article proposes that the many possible paths of a particle at an event horizon are just a result of purely classical chaos. It is just the exponentially large number of paths that preclude knowing what is a fundamentally determinate and therefore knowable particle path.

The interaction of a quantum particle with an event horizon is what results in Hawking radiation and also what results in firewalls and also eternally collapsing objects. Quantum phase has no meaning in the Oppenheimer dust of a classic black hole, but that does not stop very smart people from calculating things like Hawking radiation or firewalls or eco's and then endlessly arguing about them.

Good luck to Brown and Susskind. The complexity of the math of this topic will likely result in a perfectly acceptable and utterly opaque papers that even very smart people will argue about endlessly.

There really needs to be some kind of quantum gravity theory in place before anyone can ever make sense out of the quantum phase noise at an event horizon or any spacetime singularity. What these kinds of papers end up doing is simply showing that science does not yet have a way to handle quantum phase noise at spacetime singularities like black holes.

    Dear John R Cox

    Joseph William Fisher am a real person with a real Facebook page. Joseph William Fisher am a real qualified Science Researcher Joe Fisher, ORCID ID 0000-0003-3988-8687. Unaffiliated

    Of course you are never likely to get an email response from the imaginary "fin fisher."

    Joe Fisher, Realist

    Dear Steve Agnew,

    On December 7, 2017, I have emailed : "Dear Theoretical Physicist Adam Brown;

    You wrote in the opening paragraph of a project Complexity, Black Holes, and Observers that you submitted to FQXi.org: "There are some (abstract) things that no single (abstract) observer can know, even in principle.

    I know that the real VISIBLE Universe consists only of one single unified VISIBLE infinite surface occurring eternally in one single infinite dimension that am mostly illuminated by finite non-surface light because no matter in which direction I look, I only see a seamlessly enmeshed plethora of flat, filled in, varied hued surface. I find it doubtful that Nature would have given just this singular observational capability to only me, so I am confident that any real eye could only ever see a seamlessly enmeshed plethora of flat, filled in, varied hued surface. I am confident that the real eyes of the real dinosaurs only ever saw a seamlessly enmeshed plethora of flat, filled in, varied hued surface no matter in which direction they looked during their whole lifetime. As this happened over a million years before man appeared on the planet, I KNOW THAT ALL THE INFORMATION WRITTEN BY MAN CONCERNING INVISIBLE BLACK HOLES AM UTTERLY WRONG.

    I know you are an ethical SCIENTIST. Please return the $37,500 you were Granted for your worthless project to the Foundational Questions Institute.

    Joe Fisher, Realist

    Dear Georgina,

    I failed to mention that although conventional chess game proficiency can be programmed into a computer and simultaneously played by some blindfolded Chess Masters, Grandmaster Fischer Chess games cannot be programmed into a computer, and no blindfolded game could ever be played. Bobby Fischer Chess allows the random first row placement of the eight major pieces at the commencement of each game.

    Joe Fisher, Realist

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    hello Bob

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    GOTO

    except for Alice

    DOWHILE

    Bob

    ESCAPE

    5 days later
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    Sarfatti Commentary #1

    1) "Let's also say that you've ringed it with the ultimate sensor array, including enough telescopes, radio dishes, gravitational wave detectors, and the like to measure every quantum of energy emerging from the system."

    The world lines of these detectors is crucial. Detectors on timelike geodesics will not see the same phenomena as COINCIDENT detectors on, e.g. static off-geodesic world lines at a fixed distance outside the black hole horizon because of the Unruh effect.

    kT = hg/c

    g = proper acceleration magnitude of the detector --> 0 on a timelike geodesic

    T = temperature of "real" black body photons

    In contrast the COINCIDENT free float weightless detector is in a sea of virtual photons.

    So if Bob is firing his rocket engine hovering (static LNIF) at a fixed radial coordinate r from a simple non-rotating black hole of mass M

    His radially outward proper acceleration's magnitude is

    g(r) = (GM/r^2)(1 - 2GM/c^2r)^-1/2 --> infinity as r --> 2GM/c^2 from outside, so T --> infinity as well.

    Of course Bob's rocket engines will quit before Bob can adiabatically approach close to the horizon in a quasi-hovering manner.

    On the other hand, Alice is freely falling on a radial geodesic into the black hole. Since her g = 0 she does not see any finite temperature T at all.

    However, if Bob gets too close to the horizon and begins to burn up, Alice can catch on fire from Bob if she passes by him too closely.

    2) "the monogamy of entanglement' says that no particle can be entangled with more than one thing at a time."

    That is not precisely stated. Obviously, one can easily make N-particle entangled states. The "monogamy" seems to pertain to the measure of entanglement (of which there are several) of subsets N' < N that decreases as N --> infinity. Said in other words, roughly, as we increase the number N of maximally entangled particles in a zero entropy pure state, the entropy of the mixed states of entangled subsets will increase (i.e. the degree of entanglement of these subsets will decrease).

    Suppose we have a maximally entangled Bell pair state, e.g. the "singlet"

    |A,B> = (1/srt2)[|A1>|B0> - |A0>|B1>]

    This is a pure state whose von-Neumann pair entropy S(A,B) is zero.

    The von-Neumann entropy S is only non-zero for mixed states with classical probabilities pi

    S ~ sum over all i of pilogpi

    If p1 = 1 all the others pi = 0 and log1 = 0 therefore S = 0.

    Treating the entropy S as a necessary, though not sufficient, measure of entanglement we can say that any maximally entangled state must be pure with zero entropy, although not all pure states are even entangled.

    To be more precise. Given a complete orthonormal set of base states |i> form the projection operators |i> = (1/sqrt2)[|A1>|B1>|C1> |A0>|B0>|C0>]

    Take the partial trace of |ABC>|B1>

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      It would be better to know first what carries information. Our living space transfers information between discrete objects that are embedded in this field via vibrations and deformations. The information generating objects and the perceiving object have no direct contact with each other. Two categories of super-tiny objects exist that are shock fronts which are triggered by point-like actuators. The one-dimensional super-tiny shock fronts carry a standard bit of energy. Combined at equidistant instants in strings that obey the Einstein-Planck relation E = h v, they implement the functionality of photons. Super-tiny spherical shock fronts integrate into the Green's function of the field. Locally, the volume of the Green's function deforms the field. Globally it extends the field. So temporarily, the spherical shock front owns an amount of mass. However, the deformation quickly fades away.

      See> Nature's Basic Dark Quanta; http://vixra.org/abs/1712.0241

        Dear Jack Sarfatti and Hans van Lennen,

        Nature produced the simplest reality millions of years before any modern English language fluent physics professors ever produced any complex abstract misinformation about imaginary reality. The real Universe consists only of one single unified VISIBLE surface eternally occurring in one single infinite dimension that am mostly illuminated eternally by finite non-surface light. Please be sure to read my essay, REALITY AM NOT ROCKET SCIENCE for more verifiable details.

        Joe Fisher, Realist

        Dear Jack Sarfatti and Hans van Lennen,

        Nature produced the simplest reality millions of years before any modern English language fluent physics professors ever produced any complex abstract misinformation about imaginary reality. The real Universe consists only of one single unified VISIBLE surface eternally occurring in one single infinite dimension that am mostly illuminated eternally by finite non-surface light. Please be sure to read my essay, REALITY AM NOT ROCKET SCIENCE for more verifiable details.

        Joe Fisher, Realist

        4 months later

        I know that the real VISIBLE Universe consists only of one single unified VISIBLE infinite surface occurring eternally in one single infinite dimension that am mostly illuminated by finite non-surface light because no matter in which direction. Goa Escorts

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