Frequency shifting in electromagnetic radiation near gravitating masses in Dynamic Universe Model by Satyavarapu Naga Parameswara Gupta

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Dear "SNP": You have raised the following deep sociological question. Even though, I am not sociologist, I am attempting to answer by "going out on a limb"!

"Why they became , Such controlling culture, which allows only the creation or invention of "new bricks and/or stones that will fit into the existing edifice? Why the GR and QM are extracting only partial truth of nature? Why this science became religion or culture?"

I am again impressed by your persistent enquiring mind generating newer questions. That is the key to perpetual evolution of human minds. However, this was consciously discouraged by human tribal leaders around the globe once they settled down after developing agriculture, animal husbandry, etc. The strongest and the most intelligent tribal leaders could be easily replaced by any of their progenitors. The continued management remained in the hands of the privileged intellectuals (ministers). That is why the older tribal leaders employed the most intelligent administrators (ministers), while giving them access to opulent life.

India is the best example that employed this technique earliest in the history. Recall that Veda, Upanishad, Geeta still represents best possible deep-thinking human philosophy. Yet, this knowledge was banned from the masses. That was institutionalization of slavery of Bharatiya masses. It started well before three thousand years ago. That is why Buddha and Jain "rebelled" (~500 years before Christ's birth). But our intellectuals, serving their masters, prevailed. Propagated explanations were brilliant to protect tribalism all over the world (later, feudalism, colonialism, capitalism, etc.). It continues even today with brilliant rationalizations, all over the world, as to why modern Democracy is the best. However, it not facilitating the evolution of all human minds! Subtly, the tribal-cultures, all over the world, have been continuously enhancing the interpretations of democracy to exploit the primitive evolutionary minds of the masses - procreation, survival food, pleasure, a sense of "stable life" and the fear of being deprived of these evolutionary desires. Instead of pro-actively nurturing the evolution of the humans masses, they actively "nurtured" to keep us at the level that we were ten thousand years ago; while enjoying the benefits of most modern technologies, managing our lives with fingers on our smart phones.

Human evolution can be traced back to five million years old "Lucy", the first primitive bi-pedal human. Compared to Lucy, we are so much advanced in technology. But, we still are not consciously constructing a purposeful human civilization. I am sure everybody raises their children to have some purpose in their lives. But, those purposes are defined and constrained by to which "social-socket they can get themselves plugged in". Only rare few individuals venture to explore the meaning and the purpose of human evolution in the biosphere and their long-term purposes and roles in the cosmo-sphere. No country has defined a long-term national purpose for their collective citizenry. Our tribal leader-classes have become masters of applying skills of "animal husbandry" to manage the thinking-human masses all over the world.

Only by systematic re-kindling of the enquiring minds of all humans can we start to evolve again as a thinking species. Almost all one-year-olds demonstrate that they are born with superb enquiring minds, displayed by their persistent original questions. But, we successfully kill the evolution of those genetically ordained minds by the time they graduate from college. We tend to grow a pair of long ears and a pair of horns like the ships we raise!

The masses are systematically deprived of recognizing the higher purpose of human evolution through our ten-thousand years' of matured culture directed toward living as if we really belong to the "Animal Farm" (George Orwell). I am really not saying anything new or profound.

We need to start thinking along the line of "Evolution Process Congruency" and as system engineers. We humans are here today because the brilliant engineers like Lucy and her husband continued to develop tools and technologies to live better than their "the-then best". That is the core biological evolutionary pressure. Remember, Lucy did not have any mathematics; not even any matured language. But they continued successfully through trial and errors using intuitive thinking to emulate the evolving nature, a marvelous system engineer. When something worked, they were automatically emulating some ontological rule (laws?) of nature.

Yet no large set of (human invented) mathematical rules, or experimental data can gather COMPLETE information about any entity in this world. We are just advanced "Lucie's". We still do not know exactly what the electrons and photons are. However, we have succeeded in ushering in the Knowledge Age by constructing the Global Internet System!

Please, read the Ch. 12 on how to think in the Indian paperback of my book, "Causal Physics: Photon by Nob-Interaction of Waves", Taylor and Francis, Indian Paperback (2017). You can also go to my web and down load the papers where my concepts have been developed over the last five decades. Remember, Lucy did not invent the modern religions five million years ago.

Evolution is collective. Diversity is at the very foundation of biospheric evolution. These are not simply politically expedient expressions. Now that the humans have become thinking animals, it is fundamentally critical for us to allow the diversity of concepts to flourish, as long as they are expressly evolution process congruent. The only certain truth is that no individual humans have ever succeeded in finding the ultimate truth about our Cosmic System, of which, the Solar system is only a minuscule entity. When the Sun becomes a Red Giant, no life will exist in the Solar System. So, humans have to become deep Space-Travelers. Fortunately, we still have a billion years to evolve, provided we do not succeed in exterminating ourselves before becoming deep Space-Travelers!

My papers: http://www.natureoflight.org/CP/

Chandra.

Satyav, (also posted on mine)

You'll see the explanation for blue galaxies at high z in the 'cyclic..' paper, there's effectively no blue shift, just red, and derivable without accelerating expansion, as here;Video http://youtu.be/KPsCp_S4cUs

There are many Sauron kinematic survey papers on arXiv i.e; https://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0703531.all quite specialist, but all based on the same premiss of Doppler shifts from opposing edge rotation speeds.

I hope all that helps. Do pass me a link to your CMB anistropy derivation.

Very best

Dear S.N.P. Gupta,

Your dynamic model of the universe is a bit at odds with the general theory of relativity and with any other theory of gravity. However, I believe that any theory or model has the right to exist and there must be quite a lot of such alternative concepts. Only time will put everything in its place and show what concept better reflects reality. I put You high scores for your enthusiasm.

Best wishes,

Robert Sadykov

Nicely written, MR. SNP Gupta!

Read and rated. Further words are useless.

snp: as requested, this is posted from my FQXi essay-site: Gordon Watson

More realistic fundamentals: quantum theory from one premiss.

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Dear snp [Satyavarapu Naga Parameswara Gupta]

Thanks for commenting thoughtfully on my essay and quoting one of its key components: my theory is driven by facts and evidence.

The truth of my premiss (in that its consequents agree with a thoroughly tested quantum theory and observation) thus advances science and commonsense: for I essentially refine much modern thinking via one realistic (but neglected) fundamental:

At the very foundations of physics, I simply do "what [in your terms] is clear to me" -- I replace naive-realism by true-realism -- to see even more realistic consequences follow.

From this recap, I trust you can see that I am in agreement with this (from you) --- "I use everyday physics as achievable by engineering" --- me happily recalling that many famous physicists were said to be, firstly, engineers.

Alas, as such an engineer, focussed on fundamental foundations, I'm in no position to comment on the grand sweep of schemes like your Dynamic Universe Model.

But from the above it follows that you need have no concern as to what I might mind (or what might be my opinion) about you and your work. I wholeheartedly encourage anyone that seeks to make sense of reality to proceed at their own pace and in their own way; and always (as we agree) with facts and evidence in mind!

In this regard, here are three commonsense mantras that I suspect we share: (1) Reality makes sense and we can understand it. (2) Correlated tests on correlated things produce correlated results without mystery. (3) Only the impossible is impossible.

So for me it is a bonus to see that you are NOT following a branch of main-stream physics that endorses naive-realism: with its consequent quantum-mysteries and nonlocality!

Also: I very much appreciated the question-and-answer-style of your essay; especially the emphasis on experimental results. Though I am more cautious re this conclusion: "No imaginary or negative time axis." Sure that I understand your meaning, I suggest the reference to "an axis" is unnecessary. For me it possible to reason "backward-in-time" from later evidence; like how it was that the Titanic sank so quickly [for then I might use a negative-time axis].

With my thanks again for your comments, and wishing you every success; Gordon

PS: As requested, I will post this on your FQXi essay-site.

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Gordon Watson

More realistic fundamentals: quantum theory from one premiss.

Satyav,

I posted the link you asked for on my string (under 29.1) Also appropriate high score now applied, as intimated. Hope you'll do mine if you haven't as it's just been hit with some 1's!

Very best

Peter

Dear SNP

I recall your Eq.25 from previous essays. It is quite intuitive and seems reasonable.

A question not directly related to your essay: Do you have some idea about the cosmic microwave background? The big bang has a good explanation, but maybe it is just an average black-body temperature. Or maybe starlight that has gone in a circle - or a half circle. Imagine a water planet, with a source of waves (like an explosion) at the North pole. The waves would spread out towards the equator and then converge to a point at the South pole. The fact that light is deflected by gravity lends some weight to this possibility.

Cheers, Colin

Hello SNPG,

I like your list of 'No's. If that is 'Reductionism', so be it!

Some essay authors have given little consideration to the FQXi evaluation criterion that essays should be 'accessible to a non-specialist audience'.

We are all enthusiastic about our own interests, and I am no exception - except that I am a member of the 'non-specialist' congregation with respect to physics and mathematics.

In ruminating over the subjects covered in your essay you make reference to 'about 125 billion galaxies in the universe'. I read between the lines that you are referring to the popular concept of the universe of all-that-is-known, without questioning what lies beyond; distinguished from the universe of all-there-is (known and unknown) which is singular and extends infinitely in all directions.

This is an important distinction because it leads us to question the function, indeed the very existence of gravity. Insofar as the predominant constituent of the cosmos is vacuum, it follows that, from the point of view of an 'outsider', the outward pressure of vacuum is the cause of an effect that 'insiders' call 'gravity'.

In matter we find an exhibition of defiance against vacuum, the exception that proves the rule. What is the rule? The rule is that vacuum (unfilled void or space) abhors nature, and flows to fill it's absence. That flow is Nirvana from the Sanskrit 'nir' meaning 'out', and 'vati' meaning 'it blows'.

Notwithstanding, you are heading in the right direction. Keep going.

GVH

Dear snp, My thanks for your comments and support: I wish you well in this contest, with your research and long into the future. Best regards; Gordon.

Thanks SNP,

I have downloaded your CMB paper. It is a confusing topic for me, but light from stars is what I also have been thinking.

Best to you,

Colin