Discrete Matter and Action as Fundamental by Steve Agnew

Dear Dr. Agnew,

You discuss many things in your essay, not all of which I followed. But you talk about particles of a discrete aether which defines space and time.

You might be interested in my essay, "Fundamental Waves and the Reunification of Physics", in which I argue that time and space are defined by the quantum frequency and wavelength of the electron. In a gravitational potential, these parameters are subject to gravitational time dilation and length contraction. The trajectories of general relativity follow from this, without consideration of any abstract spacetime. I argue further that Planck's constant arises from spin quantization of these same quantum fields. But there is no need for uncertainty, superposition, decoherence, and entanglement that are present in the orthodox theory. This neoclassical synthesis is remarkably simple and unifying, and makes testable predictions that differ from orthodox quantum theory.

Furthermore, the advent of quantum computing takes this beyond obscure philosophy into the technological realm. Without entanglement, quantum computing will not work. There are billions of dollars being invested in this, and I expect an answer within 5 years. But when I have tried to discuss this with active participants in the field, they react as if I am killing the goose that is laying the golden eggs. No one wants to hear such a negative story, including funding agents. My prediction is that the failure of quantum computing will lead to a reassessment of the entire foundations of quantum mechanics.

Best Wishes,

Alan Kadin

Steve,

Great essay. Interesting, nice writing style. Short, but very sweet. For me a truffle beats the largest of plum puddings!

I think you hit most key points for successful rationalisation of the ever stickier plum pudding of doctrine. CSL, discrete ether, and constant electron spin rate, all well justified. At 3 points each just for those it's near max even though curtailed!

I would prevail on you to read mine, which employs those 3 concepts with a couple more new ingredients to surprising (for most but not for us) effect. I also commend Declan Trail's (even shorter!) giving the matching computer code.

Of course I don't agree all. I've published a cyclic cosmology model that appears to fit wider evidence very well, though it does have two opposing parts (as Quasar jets) an orthogonal axis for each cycle which could be said to be 'inverse'. But the scoring criteria doesn't include 'agreement'.

I look forward to discussion. Very well done on yours.

Best wishes

Peter

Steve, Descartes idea of identity of space and matter stronger ideas of ether, which he imagined tiny particles that fill the interstices between large particles, to make the space without voids. He said that the void spaces are filled immediately and they do not exist. New Cartesian Physics, the principles of which I developed according to the modern view that the voids in the filled space with the speed of light, and this is the reason perpetual motion of a physical space which is matter. Steve, I urge you, take over in his papers the mythological air of the notion of physical space and they'll soon become more attractive. Read my essay and see how radically you can change physics. I give you my highest rating.

Sincerely, Dizhechko Boris Semyonovich.

Hi Steve Agnew

Wonderfully matching ideas dear Steve Agnew.... The concept "Although continuous space and time seem to be fundamental to our universe, Discrete Matter and Action is Fundamental" you are correct.... Very nice idea.... I highly appreciate your essay and hope for reciprocity.

On the similar principles the Dynamic Universe Model also emerged....

I request you please spend some of the valuable time on Dynamic Universe Model also and give your some of the valuable & esteemed guidance

Some of the Main foundational points of Dynamic Universe Model :

-No Isotropy

-No Homogeneity

-No Space-time continuum

-Non-uniform density of matter, universe is lumpy

-No singularities

-No collisions between bodies

-No blackholes

-No warm holes

-No Bigbang

-No repulsion between distant Galaxies

-Non-empty Universe

-No imaginary or negative time axis

-No imaginary X, Y, Z axes

-No differential and Integral Equations mathematically

-No General Relativity and Model does not reduce to GR on any condition

-No Creation of matter like Bigbang or steady-state models

-No many mini Bigbangs

-No Missing Mass / Dark matter

-No Dark energy

-No Bigbang generated CMB detected

-No Multi-verses

Here:

-Accelerating Expanding universe with 33% Blue shifted Galaxies

-Newton's Gravitation law works everywhere in the same way

-All bodies dynamically moving

-All bodies move in dynamic Equilibrium

-Closed universe model no light or bodies will go away from universe

-Single Universe no baby universes

-Time is linear as observed on earth, moving forward only

-Independent x,y,z coordinate axes and Time axis no interdependencies between axes..

-UGF (Universal Gravitational Force) calculated on every point-mass

-Tensors (Linear) used for giving UNIQUE solutions for each time step

-Uses everyday physics as achievable by engineering

-21000 linear equations are used in an Excel sheet

-Computerized calculations uses 16 decimal digit accuracy

-Data mining and data warehousing techniques are used for data extraction from large amounts of data.

- Many predictions of Dynamic Universe Model came true....Have a look at

http://vaksdynamicuniversemodel.blogspot.in/p/blog-page_15.html

I request you to please have a look at my essay also, and give some of your esteemed criticism for your information........

Dynamic Universe Model says that the energy in the form of electromagnetic radiation passing grazingly near any gravitating mass changes its in frequency and finally will convert into neutrinos (mass). We all know that there is no experiment or quest in this direction. Energy conversion happens from mass to energy with the famous E=mC2, the other side of this conversion was not thought off. This is a new fundamental prediction by Dynamic Universe Model, a foundational quest in the area of Astrophysics and Cosmology.

In accordance with Dynamic Universe Model frequency shift happens on both the sides of spectrum when any electromagnetic radiation passes grazingly near gravitating mass. With this new verification, we will open a new frontier that will unlock a way for formation of the basis for continual Nucleosynthesis (continuous formation of elements) in our Universe. Amount of frequency shift will depend on relative velocity difference. All the papers of author can be downloaded from "http://vaksdynamicuniversemodel.blogspot.in/ "

I request you to please post your reply in my essay also, so that I can get an intimation that you replied

Best

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Dear Steve;

I like your critique of the concept of continuous space and time. You have good intuitive insight when you say that "It is the collection of discrete wavelengths of light that define space from the discrete actions of that light"; but you have to go a bit deeper to find the reason for that fundamental discreteness. I think your line of thought can converge with mine. I invite you explore this possibility by reading my essay.

Yours truly;

Diogenes

Steve, Of course all essayists address what they SEE as fundamental, but I agree gravity is high on gravitas! Then if there is 'no matter' at all then it's no matter! so I go to creation of matter (so gravity) itself, where gravity seems able to simply emerge as a reduced energy density distribution in the condensate from whence the matter came. But as always logical consistency isn't enough.

Best

Peter

Dear Steve Agnew,

Reliable evidence exists that proves that the surface of the earth was formed millions of years before man and his utterly complex finite informational systems ever appeared on that surface. It logically follows that Nature must have permanently devised the only single physical construct of earth allowable.

All objects, be they solid, liquid, or vaporous have always had a visible surface. This is because the real Universe consists only of one single unified VISIBLE infinite surface occurring eternally in one single infinite dimension that am always illuminated mostly by finite non-surface light.

Only the truth can set you free.

Joe Fisher, Realist

Dear Steve,

I highly appreciate your beautifully written essay.

It is so close to me. «In s ummary, for matter and action to be the fundamental things from which all else emerges, the universe must be made up of a very large but finite number of particles of matter called aether. Instead of aether existing in continuous space and time, though, continuous space and time both emerge from the discrete actions of discrete aether. Since both gravity and charge derive from the decoherence of quantum aether, they become in effect scaled versions of each other and the discrete action of aether provides a fundamental framework for a rational universe».

I hope that my modest achievements can be information for reflection for you.

Vladimir Fedorov

https://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/3080

Hello Steve,

Congratulations for your essay about these actions and this aether, I liked a lot your general analyses of this aether and these actions.

I wish you all the best in this contest.

Best Regards

Dear Steve Agnew, you wrote a wonderful essay, I put 10. However, it would be even better if you replaced the concept of aether by the concept of physical space in the stat of physical vacuum. Should be distinguished physical space from geometric space. According to the principle of identity of space and matter Descartes physical space is matter and matter is a physical space that is moving. Time is a synonym for the total movement. Look at my essay, FQXi Fundamental in New Cartesian Physics by Dizhechko Boris Semyonovich Where I showed how radically the physics can change if it follows this principle. Evaluate and leave your comment there. Do not allow New Cartesian Physics go away into nothingness, which can to be the theory of everything OO.

I wish you success! Sincerely, Boris Dizhechko

Hello Steve,

There is a large measure of agreement that time, space, energy (that you refer to as 'action') and matter are fundamental constituents of the universe.

I thought that there was also general agreement that 'aether' is a misconception.

Regarding your references to the 'shrinking universe' and an 'expanding universe', physicists are inclined to define the universe as the realm of all-that-they-know-exists (expanding or otherwise), but are not inclined to speculate what lies beyond.

The concept of 'universe' is singular insofar as the prefix 'uni' refers to there being just one realm that is constituted to include all-there-is, including all that we are not currently conscious of.

I beg to differ with you regarding your statement that 'it is from discrete events that the notions of continuous space and time emerge.' Discrete events arise from the interaction between energy and matter. They are enabled by the prior existence of time and space that function as context. Only increments of time 'emerge' between events, which fact helps us distinguish each event from all others.

The issue of knowing 'why' energy and matter 'are the way they are' is an improper question unless one acknowledges that they are so because mankind has categorically defined them that way. It is important to recognise that energy and matter are in an on-going state of transformation from one form to the other dependent upon circumstances.

While time separates events as I have noted above, the only time that is 'real' in our experience is now, now and now.

We must be careful not to be unduly persuaded by professional jargon because there are differing interpretations of what it 'means', and the use of esoteric symbols and equations is a sure way of diminishing comprehension by a 'well-educated but non-specialist audience.'

Your opening question 'Do all things necessarily emerge from a few fundamental things?' is self-answerable, and understandable, if you delete the word 'Do'.

There is no reason to attribute rationality to the universe. It is mankind that is rational, a function of consciousness, and strives to reduce all other phenomena into conformity through rational analysis and categorical packaging. That is our self-made 'reality'.

Rest assured that I am fully in accord with the title of your essay 'Discrete Matter and Action (energy) as (being) Fundamental'

You carry my best wishes for good luck Steve.

Gary.

Nice essay Steve,

Very short but well presented. Not adequately explained was CSL, which I understand well but could have been summarized in endnotes...

All the Best,

Jonathan