Peter,

WOW! That's INCREDIBLE. I've just read it a third time after brushing up my QM for the last fortnight... and it really works!. That's 90 years of stupidity we can escape from. Well done you! And truly from the most fundamentally simple action in physics.

I've also read your previous papers and see how it allows unification with a slightly less flawed interpretation of the Special Theory of Relativity. You may rtecall a few years ago my essay included the Cluster Probe data analysis which matched your own.

I also read Traill's essay (or rather computer generated proof and graph), and gather you're now collaborating on the astonishing finding.I didn't notice your end note experiment explanation the first time. That's important as its cheap and easy to reproduce. Finding the last peice of the puzzle, the squaring of amplitude to get Intensity, was truly inspired! and again so simple!!

I want to track down the rest of the solutions to the bizarre quantum explanations for things. I think I've seen most in your other work and the video's (the long one needs updating by the way!) but how do you explain short range tomography?

The down side is the dimwitted among physicists either don't understand QM well enough, or as you wrote, are so convinced the world is weird they won't be able to accept a classic solution can exist, even though Bell insisted it did. Best of luck there! Anyway thats a 20 from me! (if I could) I see someone mentioned it being worth a Nobel in the discussions, that's certainly correct, if you live long enough!

I hope you'll read my own essay, a bit more philosophical but I think you'll agree with it. Do tell me if not.

Thaks, I'm truly uplifted, at last! I'm sure you were even more so when if fianlly came together. Most just SAY we need new thinking and new physics but don't seem to mean it and do the necessary, so just hollow talk. Now we'll see if they DO mean it!.

All the very best for the scoring & judging.

Richard

    Peter

    Your essay is no minor piece. Infact surviving review, it would prove a ground-breaking work. My only reservation is to acknowledge my limited ability to qualify such a work.

    I'm glad we share some general points of view, that science might be restored to a semblance of realism. That an imaginative leap might link QM and relativity, and that "time" is an important, if not the important component in unification. Your occupation will have honed your interpretative skills, and so I hope you will have properly appreciated by treatment of (clocks as a measure of QM force dilation, not time dilation). Forces drive clock function, so if times governance over forces cannot be redeemed by scientific explanation, then what's the justification for (clocks measure time?) Force dilation is an observable, quantifiable, and equivalent QM substitute for time dilation, applied to equivalent effect in relative motion and relative gravitational environments.

    On another topic, I believe I may have something useful for you, regarding your resolution for Bells Inequality, and it is delivered by an observable. To sum up in simplest possible terms, you apply considerations of relative motions of 3D spherical bodies to decode Bells inequalities.

    The observation

    A pole or rod standing in a gravitational field, incrementally weighed as it is laid over, beginning at 90degrees from ground, and concluded at 0 degrees. Are you aware that the transitional weight profile matches the same curve as given by QM probability? This is fact, not theory!

    What could a photons angle of approach to a polarization filter, and its probability of passing the filter or being stopped, possibly have in common with a poles incremental weight transition in a gravitational field, respective of that same angle? What could leaning photons and leaning poles have in common?

    There is a forceful interaction between a pole and gravity, which is characterized by a poles balance and its resistance to the forceful effects of gravity. As the pole is incrementally laid over, gravity has an increasing proportion of leverage over the pole. Or you could term it as, the pole is losing its leveraged balance, and therefore its ability to resist force of gravity.

    The photon and the polarisation filter clearly have a forceful interaction with one another. Whereby the filter is imposing a force on the photon, and changing its state/position/motion. And its fair to assume that the photon might have resistance to changes in its state/position/motion, dependent upon its angle to the filter, the leverage associated with that angle.

    This is very simple, and might entirely capture the essence of your proposal. Summed up as an interaction between two elements whereby one exerts a force on the other, and the other expresses a forceful resistance to changes in state/position/motion, dependant on leverage at various angles.

    I will be thankful for your opinion on this please?

    Steven Andresen

    Peter

    What I have discribed might sound foreign to your theme on first account. But what it might do is fill in another piece of the puzzle. You have discribed an object that can express the various positions that decode bells inaquality. But discribing positions can only be part of the story, because there must be a process ocuring, a mechanism, an interaction between the quantum object and the detector.

    It's going to be a forceful interaction, because what other type of physical interaction is there in the world? Force and resistance to force.

    The pole in a gravitational field is only comparable to the simplest quantum object, a photon. The priciple becomes a more complex range of considerations when comparing to massive particles which you have modeled with a sphere. But it remains a consideration of force given, and an objects resistance to that force at verious angles

    Steve

    Satyav,

    You asked me to explain further.

    For Dark Energy the evidence of something beyond out detection and understanding is now overwhelming from every source, and even with flawed cosmological theory we know it mus contain ~86% of the total mass energy of the universe. It's also the 'condensate' from which all matter condenses. Can we really thing 'pair prooduction' comes from nothing at all! I suggest that would be naive and blinkered. The evidence below isn't exactly mainstream but all is more consistent with the evidence, i.e. resolving a tranche of anomalous findings;

    As fermions don't detectably interfere with EM when coupled (n=1) they are 'matter' and 'dark'. Despite old theory hanging on, the numbers we now find contribute significantly.

    On cyclic cosmology, answering the 'pre-big bang' paradox and reproducing all CMB anisitropies this model looks better supported than any other including Concordance.;

    HJ.v36.Cyclic Galaxy & Cosmological evolution. Alspo Google Laniakea and watch the video of cosmic dynamics.

    Ans in line with modern quantum optics this derivation of quantum redshift at the surface of all expanding Schrodingger sphere surfaces

    Redshift without expansion.

    It's well known Newton is incomplete and inaccurate, as is GR but a bit less so, and my essay(s) show(s) QM's 'absolute' time is correct and 'space/time' is simply derived from just diffraction and Doppler shift of waves.

    On that subject, last point; when you say 'frequency will increase (red shifted)' you mean 'wavelength'. Redshift is extended waves which gives DECREASED frequency (the time derivative at c). Wavelength (lambda) is blue shift (gamma waves are very short waves so high frequency. Waves are the REAL scalar, and fl is a constant. That's a staple of astronomy, and my see my 'Much Ado about Nothing' essay for more complete analysis.

    But all good work otherwise. See Also the Sauron survey of galactic rotational shifts and ATLAS3G. I hope that helps.

    Very Best

    Peter

    My comment to Peter Jackson in reply to his comment to me on my paper's page on Feb. 5, 2018

    Dear Peter,

    Thank you for the positive comment on the essay and hypothesis and the comments on language and communication. I do have a tendency to transfer the information without always including all of man's language structures in the written form because they are not included in the form in which it is provided to me. I try to add the commas and paragraph extra lines, etc., but I tend to miss some especially if I get in a hurry or near the end of a long project, etc. From what I have seen in other papers, it seems to be a common problem of many. Sometimes I see things that appear somewhat odd in papers, but if it does not interfere with the transfer and understanding of the intended concepts of the paper, I try to just ignore them. As an example, in the first paragraph of your paper you say "We suggest 'yes' but we want most fundamental." The use of the word "we" would suggest that you worked with one or more others to generate your paper, but you are the only one mentioned as the author of the paper. Of course this does not have a direct bearing on the paper's content except as a slight distraction from the subject, which is not important.

    As you mention frequency is not fundamental because it is a resultant output property measurement of cyclical motions, which are also not fundamental because they are the result of the interactions between two or more basic linear or cyclical motions. In the same way, wavelength is the resultant output of the joining interaction of a cyclical motion with a linear motion at an angle to the direction of the cyclical motion's back and forth motion. This can, of course, be more complex if the cyclical motion contains more than one linear motion component within it. Time is one of the most misunderstood concepts in science today because it is generally considered to be an existent physical dimension, but it is actually only an output property of the interaction between a motion and the spatial distance through which it travels. Things become much simpler when you understand that a given motion can contain more or less motion than another motion, such that if two motions travel from points on a line in the same direction that is ninety degrees from the direction of that line and both travel to another line that is parallel to the first line, one of the motions can reach the line and the other motion has not yet traveled that far because it contains a smaller amount of motion. I call this amount of motion that is contained within a given motion its motion amplitude because it represents the magnitude of the motion content within that motion. Any convenient motion amplitude can be selected as the standard motion amplitude. This frees one from the extra complexity of adding a rate function. This changes D=RT to D=MT where M is the motion amplitude of the motion. This shows that T=D/M. From this you can see that time is only an interaction relationship between a motion and the distance that it travels. You could, of course, select a standard motion amplitude that would be that rate that would cause it to travel one mile of distance that would compare to the distance / motion amplitude spectrum that would currently be called one hour. Twice that motion amplitude level would then be equivalent to 2 miles per hour, etc. An hour is actually only a measurement of a standard motion traveling through a standard distance. Whether it is considered to be the time that a point on the earth takes to travel 1/24 of the way around the circumference of the earth or the time it takes for an atom to travel through the distance of many complete cycles of vibration, etc. it is just the measurement of a motion's motion amplitude as it travels through a specific distance. Since T = D / M, There is a whole spectrum of motion amplitudes and their associated distances that equal the same time. Any distance greater than zero would have an associated motion amplitude that would cause it to take one hour to travel that distance. If you want to tie a standard distance to a standard motion amplitude to produce a specific time output, you can just select the desired standard distance and then select the motion amplitude level that will yield one standard unit of time. We are used to using specific standard motion spectrums to generate our standard times, but a standard time could be any D / M spectrum combination that together all equal one unit of time. The only reason that the concept of time is even needed is because motions can contain different amounts of motion. If all motions contained the same amount of or amplitude of motion, the need to consider time would not exist. If someone asked you how long it took you to get to someplace, you could just say it took 12 miles and they would know how long that was because anything that traveled 12 miles would take the same amount of time. In that case D = T and since they would be equal, it would not be necessary to consider time at all. The concept that time is some sort of existent dimensional entity in itself, especially one that you can travel back and forth in, is one of man's current scientific errors.

    You are right that we both start out with motions, but I see them as the existent entities that occupy an otherwise empty spatial structure while you look at them as somehow existing as motions that are contained within some kind of undefined fluid. It is very hard for man to get away from the concept that motions must always be expressed as something else that is in motion rather than the understanding that all of those other things that you see in motion are actually composed of motions themselves. In interactions, the number of matter particles and/or energy photons is not always conserved, so they cannot be the most basic structures. Only the total motion content is always conserved. It is possible that the total number of motions is also conserved, but since man here cannot presently observe individual sub-energy field particles, that concept cannot be observationally tested at this time. I say that because when an energy photon is absorbed by an electron in an atom, it may only transfer its fourth dimensional wave motion to the electron and then leave the interaction as a linear motion sub-energy particle, etc. The point is that the total amount of motion in the universe always remains the same, but those things that are constructed out of that motion like energy photons and matter particles can be constructed and destructed by interactions. A particle can exist as a linear motion that does not contain any rotational or spin motion associated with it. Such particles are evident in field structures that operate in a linear action with no angular motion. In your hypothesis what is that fluid composed of and how do its individual parts act and interact to produce the interactions with motions that you propose that somehow produces vortices that are in the shape of spheres? This fluid level and the motion that was introduced into it would, of course, be a more fundamental level of structure than the matter particles that would be produced by them and would, therefore, need to also be understood to obtain a complete fundamental understanding of the universe. Since the Higgs Boson contains a very large amount of motion, it should be able to produce many other particles and/or energy photons as decay products. That should not be a surprise to anyone.

    It looks like you identify curl as rotation. If that is the case, you are right that the curvature of the rotation decreases as you travel away from the pole on the surface of the sphere toward the equator, but it does not reduce to zero at the equator because if you look at a rotating sphere from above the north or south pole, you can see all the way to the equator and observe that it is still rotating. If it was not rotating anything at the equator would fly off away from the sphere in whatever linear direction that its linear motion was going when it reached the equator. You are right that the linear motion is greatest at the equator and does reduce to zero at the zero dimensional point of the pole, since that point cannot rotate. In most cases vortices in a fluid do not take the shape of a sphere. You would have to explain how that shape is formed.

    Although the rotation curvature does decrease to a minimum at the equator and then increases again as you travel toward the other pole, it does not change direction of rotation. You can see this by fastening a flag on a long pole to the far pole that you are not above so that the flag pole is at ninety degrees to the axis of rotation and the flag pole is long enough that you can see the flag sticking out beyond the equator of the sphere. You will see that the flag is rotating in the same direction as the half of the sphere that you can see is rotating. The appearance of rotation in the opposite direction only occurs when you view the sphere from above the opposite pole. This is not due to a change in the direction of rotation of the sphere. It is due to a change of direction of the observer in relation to the sphere.

    If you view the rotation of the sphere from above the equator with the north pole of rotation up and the south pole down, you can move all around the sphere staying above the equator and it will always continue to rotate in the same direction either toward the left or the right according to its original motion direction. Its direction of rotation will only appear to change to the opposite direction if you rotate yourself so that the south pole is up and the north pole is down. Again, it is not the direction of the rotation of the sphere that has changed, but the direction of the observer that has changed. In both of the above changes due to observer orientation, the observer could be another spinning sphere and an interaction between the two spheres could generate different outcomes depending on the spheres' relative orientations.

    When you say "6. Fermion pairs DO 'pop up' from a sub-quantum condensate (motion induces pressure changes)." Is the sub-quantum condensate the same thing as the fluid that you mention earlier or is it something else? If it is something else, it would also need to be defined as to its basic substance and how that substance is structured. Its fundamentality in comparison to the fluid, etc. would also need to be established and if one generated the other in some way that generation mechanism would need to be determined and explained. If motion induces pressure changes and the pressure changes cause fermion pairs to be created, how come we don't see new fermions popping up everywhere, since motions are moving around all over the place? In (7.) When you mention "sub-ether" is that something new or is that just another name for the fluid, the sub-quantum condensate, or something else that you have already mentioned? If it is new how does it fit in with the other structures? In (9.) when you say "Majorana fermion; north hemisphere = electron, S = positron, (equator is up, or down at 180 degrees)", it looks like you are saying that a positron is just an electron that is rotated 180 degrees. If that is actually what you are saying it would seem that in a gas where particles can move freely and interact with each other, an interaction could easily cause a matter particle to be rotated on its axis, which would cause it to become an antiparticle compared to those that had not been rotated. When the rotated particle interacted with a non-rotated particle they would both be destroyed and turned into EM radiation. Over time as more and more particles became rotated by interactions, the gas would become completely changed into EM radiation. Since most of the matter in the universe is composed of gas, such large scale conversion in stars would create so much EM radiation that the stars would all explode, etc.

    This comment is getting large, so I will end it now.

    Sincerely,

    Paul

      Hi Peter, once again a very good essay, which I can say without completely agreeing on the premise of simplicity. For me, somewhat of a reductionist view only works from the macro level down to something more involved than molecules or chemistry if you will. Then things start getting increasingly difficult. If things got increasingly simple, we would have answers to all questions that can be answered by Physics. Increasing fundamentalness does not require being simpler.

      As you know, my sandbox is Octonion Algebra and my opinion is the meaningful path from most fundamental is physical reality -> a subset of mathematics -> Algebraic structure. Octonion analysis is difficult enough to require use of symbolic algebra tools, and yet is more fundamental than and perhaps ruling out simpler associative algebras like tensor and spinor matrix like forms provide since these can't duplicate what the generally non-associative Octonion Algebra can do. Then there is the unavoidable disturbance of what is experimentally being examined at the detailed level making things more difficult.

      So being able to describe Physics to a barmaid, not thinking any barmaid. But I guess starting a conversation about curved space with a shapely one is an approach. It was their story it was all for science, and they are sticking to it!

      Rick

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        Peter,

        I certainly appreciate your motivation, eschewing the point-like assumption which introduces inconsistent singularities into theory. I also enjoyed the many historic quotes and comments.

        Your choice to examine fermions, particularly electrons, first was astute. In fact the (tripartite) Band Theory also results in an electron geometry that resembles a sphere. [You'd have to follow some of my linked references to see the combinatorially correct shape.. It is a sphere split in half like a baseball but with three lobes, for consistency.]

        This just thrilled me! A colleague who recognizes the essential requirement of finitary particles, although...

        without recognizing the Proofs available and then asserting 10 much higher-level Axioms. {I get by great with two theorems, thx}

        Then the essay wanders far from fundamental issues in a discussion of light polarization ... hmmm

        Anyway, apart from a traditional non-geometric extension in an attempt to include QCD, the insights were amusing and in at least one important way astute. Thanks for writing... and any future common interest.

        Wayne

          Peter,

          I certainly appreciate your motivation, eschewing the point-like assumption which introduces inconsistent singularities into theory. I also enjoyed the many historic quotes and comments.

          Your choice to examine fermions, particularly electrons, first was astute. In fact the (tripartite) Band Theory also results in an electron geometry that resembles a sphere. [half of a sphere, see atch]

          This just thrilled me! A colleague who recognizes the essential requirement of finitary particles, although...

          without recognizing the Proofs available and then asserting 10 much higher-level Axioms. {I get by great with two theorems, thx}

          Then the essay wanders far from fundamental issues in a discussion of light polarization ... hmmm

          Anyway, apart from a traditional non-geometric extension in an attempt to include QCD, the insights were amusing and in at least one important way astute. I rated it quite highly

          Thanks for writing... and any future common interest.

          WayneAttachment #1: Electron_geometry.jpg

            Hi Peter...

            In that theory is "formulation of apparent relationships or principles of specified observed phenomena...and knowledge of it's principles and methods"~ Webster

            If formulation of relationships requires a Spatial measurement, then a minimum unit of Spatial measurement is fundamental to the theory... i.e. a theory is fundamental only in that it places constraints on formulation.

            Even from the "the lower reductionist limit of 'condensed matter' " if not constrained in one's formulation, motion, "the apparently most ridiculously simple of concept", can be easily reduced by analysis of the requirements for perception of motion... i.e. some minimum unit of Spatial differentiation.

            I agree "much theory is beyond observable" and thus "we principally constrain ourselves to the testable realm and scale of condensed matter".

            Might I add, that 'foundational interpretations' of Quantum Physics... e.g. "'Many Worlds' or 'Pilot Waves'"... that have not verified fundamental units of measurement utilized in theoretical formulation of the fundamentals underlying "testable realm and scale" of specified observed phenomena, should not be accepted as constraints on one's cognitive processes.

            Keep digging!!!

            Peter, I cheer your tenacious investigation of constraints, and your willingness to acknowledge that "more fundamental" concepts may be required to resolve the "Limits of Understanding" that currently constrain the human species... and will rate your essay accordingly.

            Sue Lingo

            www.uqsmatrixmechanix.com

            Paul,

            Wow to that to! Much agreement, but I'll just focus on your questions.

            1. The 'We' isn't quite the 'Royal' we. I've worked with other specialists on various aspects of the discrete field model (DFM) first described here in 2011 removing some of the nonsense interpretations surrounding SR (postulates are fine) to resolve the 'ecliptic plane/stellar aberration' issue and many more. Classic QM was a severe test, which it's nicely passed, now with computer code support from Declan Traill.

            2. Yes, it's all about motions within motions. Twin vorteces without a 'surface' (i.e. water) can be seen at wingtips etc. and often produce toroidal dynamics, as a galaxy and its active nucleus AGN ('Black Hole' in ancient theory!) However all galaxy discs rotate within an oblate spheroid. Earths EM field on the other hand it toroidal! Obtaining QM output from complex toroidal spin proved tricky but wasn't needed!

            3. how come we don't see new fermions popping up everywhere, since motions are moving around all over the place? Look hard, because WE DO! It's fine structure surface electrons, also 'surface charge' increasing with motion, the Unruh Effect, the Coma of ALL bodies moving in space and Earths Bow Shock. Just look at the heat as they reach max plasma density 10^22/mm at the shuttle nose on re-entry! We've known of 'pair production' for 100+years. Also see earlier essays. And of "Fermion pairs DO 'pop up' from a sub-quantum condensate (motion induces pressure changes)." Is the sub-quantum condensate the same thing as the fluid that you mention earlier..? Yes. And it's by the Higgs process.

            4. In a field all local fermions will have the same axis, so N near S, yet in their case like poles don't 'attract' but keep a quite even 'lattice type' distribution! There's something we don't know, and with know known 'bottom' to scale below 'matter' maybe your '5th dimension' direction has validity. But yes, stars DO of course explode, then the torus re-forms! Google the HST Crab Nebula core shots.

            But someone/something must have 'moved' in the first place many cycles ago!

            I hope that's the main ones but comment or ask on.. Great to find someone who connects and asks.

            Very best

            Peter

            Wayne,

            Thanks for the support. The link to QED was just what someone pointed out about field depth not anything I 'attempted' to do. However your electron model attachment looks shockingly close to my own some years ago;fqXi finalit 2013-14 Do Bob and Alice have a future? (see the figs etc towards the end). However to remove the weirdness from QM just needs those colours to 'bleed into' each other rather then just 'switch'. Is that excluded in QED?

            It seems you 'switched off' from the essay just when it opened up the ontology for a classical reproduction of QM predictions, as it headed off your own familiar path (indeed m MOST peoples paths!), so you missed the big finale! Do look again if you get a chance. It's consistent with Bell and this important paper, referred in Gordon Watson's consistent paper; Fröhner, F. H. (1998). "Missing link between probability theory and quantum mechanics: the Riesz-Fejér theorem." Z. Naturforsch. 53a, 637-654.

            Very best

            Peter

            Richard,

            I'm relieved a few understand QM without blind 'belief' in weirdness, so can see and understand the solution when presented. But is is far to few! I've read your own excellent & perceptive essay and commented. I think you'll find Declan Traill, Gordon Watson and Sue Lingo among others worth reading.

            I think 'dimwitted' may be harsh of most in academia, but do agree the approach of many is poor and they all have a responsibility most are not meeting. But that's merely the state of our intellectual evolution. My last essay identifies the strength of 'Cognitive Dissonance'; i.e. they may SAY new physics is needed but when encountering something that works better, they reject it a priori as it's to unfamiliar. I'd just like some help & support from someone who DOES want some kudos!

            Most have careers invested in the old stuff they regurgitate year on year so fear the thought of throwing it away. Indeed I discussed recently that the whole profession has 'fear' based culture which is mainly what prevents advancement (and just 'maths based' being much of the rest!).

            We may eventually evolve to intelligent beings, though yes, the jury's still out! Though true it's a massive leap I don't think there's the slightest chance I'll be going up for a Nobel! I don't do research for that, wouldn't want to and am 67 so will likely be long gone before the paradigm change!

            But thank you for your kind words, inspiring you is an inspiration to me to keep fighting through the (Popper) mud.

            And yes, I do recall your excellent essay invoking the Cluster results which, like the WMAP, COBE and Planck findings, are still now not interpretable due to the flawed theory used to try to do so - yet they wont try anything else!

            Bless em!.

            Lastly; Yes tomography has helped screen to solution. It's 'entanglement' effects only work locally so seems to be a field effect then using QM to misinterpret it as similar to the long range statistical case. It's mechanistic sequence is explainable ontologicaly in the same way as in my essay, just one more level of complexity beyond where most brains have reached. In a way this is a test of the Academic community, which so far most have failed.

            Best of luck in the contest

            Peter

            Peter,Hi

            In good agreement with your assumption on an existence of simpler - than -assumed - fundamentalness, I investigated universal Homochirality in number theory and beyond - Please,see my Fundamentalness of Homochirality.

            Thank you for essay

            Michael A.Popov

            Dear Peter Jackson

            Thank you for all the nice explanations...

            I want to ask you few more questions, if you don't mind....

            ............ Your words......

            You asked me to explain further.

            For Dark Energy the evidence of something beyond out detection and understanding is now overwhelming from every source, and even with flawed cosmological theory we know it mus contain ~86% of the total mass energy of the universe. It's also the 'condensate' from which all matter condenses. Can we really thing 'pair prooduction' comes from nothing at all! I suggest that would be naive and blinkered. The evidence below isn't exactly mainstream but all is more consistent with the evidence, i.e. resolving a tranche of anomalous findings;

            ..................Correct, matter or energy cannot be produced from nothing....

            ..........Your words....

            As fermions don't detectably interfere with EM when coupled (n=1) they are 'matter' and 'dark'. Despite old theory hanging on, the numbers we now find contribute significantly.

            On cyclic cosmology, answering the 'pre-big bang' paradox and reproducing all CMB anisitropies this model looks better supported than any other including Concordance.;

            ...................... Have a look at my paper also explaining CMB anisotropies...

            ...........Your words.....

            HJ.v36.Cyclic Galaxy & Cosmological evolution. Alspo Google Laniakea and watch the video of cosmic dynamics...............................

            I could not download your PDF please... it was circling around some passwords... can you please send me copy to ... snp.gupta@gmail.com or attach that pdf here to your post?

            ...................Your words....

            Ans in line with modern quantum optics this derivation of quantum redshift at the surface of all expanding Schrodingger sphere surfaces

            Redshift without expansion.

            ...................... Very good idea , and then how will you explain Blue shifted Galaxies?

            .......................Your words...................

            It's well known Newton is incomplete and inaccurate, as is GR but a bit less so, and my essay(s) show(s) QM's 'absolute' time is correct and 'space/time' is simply derived from just diffraction and Doppler shift of waves...........................

            Vet nice and correctly said....

            .......................... Your words......................

            On that subject, last point; when you say 'frequency will increase (red shifted)' you mean 'wavelength'. Redshift is extended waves which gives DECREASED frequency (the time derivative at c). Wavelength (lambda) is blue shift (gamma waves are very short waves so high frequency. Waves are the REAL scalar, and fl is a constant. That's a staple of astronomy, and my see my 'Much Ado about Nothing' essay for more complete analysis.

            ......................

            I am sorry for this error. I was travelling very heavily in that period at the time of posting this essay. I posted the wrong essay....

            Then later I changed the Abstract and posted on Jan 2:

            Author Satyavarapu Naga Parameswara Gupta wrote on Jan. 2, 2018 @ 21:58 GMT

            Essay Abstract

            I know the essay will not be changed by FQXi....

            Thank you for the thorough observation. And keen reading.....

            .................your words................

            But all good work otherwise. See Also the Sauron survey of galactic rotational shifts and ATLAS3G. I hope that helps.

            Can you please give me a link....?

            Best Regards

            =snp

            Hi Peter

            I wonder if you might comment on the following observation please?

            A pole or rod standing in a gravitational field, weighed as it is incrementally laid over, beginning at 90 degrees from ground, and concluded at 0 degrees. Are you aware that the transitional weight profile matches the same curve given by Quantum Mechanical probability, a photon at the same angle passing or stopped by a polarization filter? This is observation, not theory!

            May I ask for your comment towards this please?

            Steve

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              Peter

              We understand why a pole behaves as it does. In short simple terms, it is to do with balance, force and leverage of that force at various angles. I've had plenty of time to consider this in respect of photon QM probability, and there is an interesting interpretation.

              Why science hasnt made note of this simple observation?

              Looking to nature for inspiration clues and answers seams out of vogue in this scientific era. Health sciences are largely devout to synthetic compounds and seams intent on having little or no association with natural remedy. Infact it seams they scorn natural. Physics is largely devout to synthetic math, which is becoming increasingly distant from natural observation. Especially modern attempts toward progress. I might read a professional paper on quantum gravity, and it will be based entirely on synthetic terms, giving me no purchase on how their work relates to natures process, and natural observations. How science relates to nature is how I discern my understanding, how I orientate my inquiries. Good science doesnt divorce association with nature.

              I judge your work well. My challenge I place here does not undermine what you have proposed, within circumstances you have proposed. Rather, it questions a circumstance your proposal doesn't extend solution for, only to suggest you need an additional consideration to what you have already established. You use a geometric sphere to decode Bells Inequality, which is useful while considering massive particles. I do not doubt. However photons display quantum probability also, and do you propose photons are spherical entities?

              If you consider that quantum interactions are forces interacting with other forces, then the angle of interaction can conceivably introduce a leverage consideration. Much the same as a pole standing at various angles in a gravitational field. The way I see it this can compliment your work, not undermine it.

              Steve

              Steve,

              You didn't include a reference for the pole finding. It's essential to study the experiment. (Most would mark you down for citing with no citation).

              I'd need some convincing about the 'leverage' solution. Placing the pole in a concrete base on some scales there would be no 'leverage' on the scales to explain a weight change (just subtract the block weight). There's a natural increase in gravitational mass as the centre of mass of the pole is lower, similar in ALL theories of gravity. That's a non-linear effect, under Newton it's the inverse square law. Now if the finding repeats in the concrete block case and is greater than the inverse square of the CofM height, THEN there WOULD be an anomaly! So we must look at the experiment.

              Yes, and expanding Schrodinger light sphere (from an emission) is roughly spherical. But Huygens construction applies to interactions as photons spread and are only requantized at interactions, co-moving media can cause 'dents' and 'bulges' at the sphere ('causal') surface, and any point on the sphere surface itself (wavefront) has all 3 ('spherical') degrees of freedom so 3D motions.

              My experiment and analysis are equally valid for a (nearly) 'Plane' wave front or an electron (or rather a fermion) which retains it's form in transit. So yes the Bayesian distribution applies to ALL phenomena, well beyond just light and particles! Note that though all that is consistent with specialist physics and findings not a lot is consistent with current theorists assumptions!

              Have a quick look at Wiki quantum optics, phase change etc.as it shows the 'helical' path we know well, and from which you can find the implications of tiny rotations or delays. But you're right. Little of that has transferred to theorisation!

              Also check this out; INVISIBILITY

              We have to correctly identify cause, and rotation is the key. i.e. did you know a spinning disc weighs more than a stationary one?! In discrete dynamics matter IS spin so that's predicted, contrary to current doctrine.

              Very best

              Peter

              Rick,

              You're right,ish, Classic QM was trickier for barmaids than logical SR, but I've shown it possible with my rotating sphere. Viz; Get her to shut her eyes, spin it on a vertical axis, then;

              1. Touch her finger on a pole and ask 'Is it going left or right?' (= 0)

              2. Do so on the equator & ask 'Is that clockwise? or anticlockwise? (= 0)

              3. Touch it on the N pole & ask 'Is it going clockwise or anti..? (=-1)

              4. Touch it on the S pole & ask 'Is it going clockwise or anti..? (=+1)

              5. Do so on the equator her side & ask 'Is it going left or right?' (=-1)

              6. Same on the other side (or flip the poles) & ask 'left or right?'(=+1)

              7. Finally at latitude 45supo & ask is it moving or rotating? (=both)

              Now we KNOW the spin AND linear speed both change NON-linearly, by Cos latitude. Rotate the polar axis in any plane and that doesn't change. Three out of five barmaids understand.

              Now ALSO tell them each sphere re-emits at 'c' with respect to itself whatever the original 'closing speed', and there are millions on the surface of a lens, and her understanding of SR allows complete unification with QM. There are a number of barmaids around who now understand that (more) logical analysis! Some were impressed enough to... well you'll need to use imagination.

              Can you find logical or epistemological fault?

              Very Best

              Peter

              Peter

              its early hours of the morning here so please forgive the brief reply. The pole observation and experiment is my own. so no points lost for failure to cite.

              i think perhaps i havent explained it well though. i dont know why you have introduced a concrete block?

              balance your pen upright on its end. then allow it to tilt incrementally to the table, while considering its increasing weight upon your finger. the weight transition is not linear. it charts the same curve as expressed by quantum probability from 90 - 0 degrees.

              i you find something heaver than a pen, like a fence post of bigger the better, then the effect is pronounced enough to perceive intuitively. i can provide measured results tomorrow if you are interested?

              steve