Dear Narendra,

Is the universe as a whole Conscious; is there something such as cosmic consciousness? I honestly do not know the answer. For human beings at least we can say that we experience self-awareness. As for the universe, we only know it through observations and experiments, and through the physical laws we discover about the universe. How are we to conclude from these that the universe is self-aware in the same way that human beings are? Maybe future developments in science will prove you right. At present, I do not know! :-)

I fully agree with you that great ideas are often born in the `no-thought' state. I hesitate to conclude from here that human consciousness is hence interacting with a `cosmic consciousness', leading to the discovery of this new idea. Simpler for me is that human consciousness is at work, and according the law aspect to the neural pathway. This need not require us to actively engage in thinking.

Tejinder

Tejinda,

That's a brave move! But don't you feel it's a bit desperate? I hope you're half that brave & comment on the classical ontology. i.e. identify the slightest flaw you may perceive. You'll see why I suggest a better option on studying it.

Yes. Electrons needed complex functions. I show the REAL motions, experimentally at larger scale with photo's and a short video showing the twin paired & inverse momenta (also showing 'non-integer' spins). Yes, 'complex numbers' can be used but best to consider all 3 degrees of freedom one at a time, in Cartesian 'planes' to build a physical picture.

Producing apparent 'nonlocality' is central to the model. It only takes (anti)parallel polar axes to adequately 'entangle' each pair, then study real exchange of momentum on absorption/requantized emission ('measurement') by polariser & photomultiplier field electrons.

Consider; Bob reversing electron polar angle reverses HIS finding, so we get pairs; S,S not S,N, or p,p. not p,q. but in the 'complex' (just multiple) planes. It's only rocket science! Bill McHarris explains how statistics then used the wrong assumptions.

I (we) even point to where QG can then emerge, but only as an aside. It still needs the right person to follow that up. (Tell me if you fancy it).

Very best,

Peter

I wait for Tejinder's response to my latest comment above. You agree that the gap between thoughts play some role. I mentioned what Einstein own experiences as published in a book by Dr. D.S. Kothari, express. When the mind is having to deal with such gaps in thinking process, what remains open to mind is the interaction with cosmos around us.That is where i feel we come across the cosmic consciousness. It is all prevading and timeless entity. I even feel that our entire Universe, as also other verses exist, as originated by cosmic consciousness. The latter is popularly associated with the concept of God as Creator in common understanding.Thus, to me consciousness preceeds Big Bang or creation zero time. That is it has always existed irrespective of the Universe. It is the original remarkable intelligence and logic that existed and contributed to the generation of the Universe we perceive since we came on the scene billion years later on the scene!

Dear Narendra,

I had already answered this; in response to your earlier post. Please see above. Thanks.

Tejinder

We may differ. I like to rate philosophy as the mother of sciences. Science developed a methodology when it started operating seperately from original mother philosophy. Our current methodogy norms may well restrict its growth. I tend to associate freedom of a disciplined mind to go beyond our scientific methodology. The latter should be an ever expanding paradigm, that goes with expanding scietific knowledge.

I failed to see the same. sorry. I wasted your precious time and go through your rsponses again, age factor! Yes, one thing i wish to touch. To me Maths is a mere tool to isolate precisely the salient points/ things and isolate the laws that may lie buried in the text. It shoud not play any other dominating role in Physics. In the essay contest, i find the majority is from the theory side and only a springling of experimentalist , lab. scientists like me. Have sympathy for us as we have to arrange experimental set ups and get less time to think freely, as instruments require maintenance and checks for their operational aspect in the desired manner too!

I could not isolate your response , please respond directly and briefly as you are a busy buddy addressing me by name! Up to you to ignore if feel so!

Dear Tejinder,

In a reply I referred to your sentence "I fully agree with you that the `current border between past and future is the only fixed point'."

Perhaps this reply got lost for unknown reason although I got a confirmation. Did you read it nonetheless?

Maybe it was taboo to blame Einstein for writing "past, present, and future"?

I criticized that the present is strictly speaking not a state but just the border between the past and the future. The present is a fuzzy notion that may include parts from both. There is no extension between the past and the future.

A point is something that has no parts.

Eckard

Dear Tejinder Pal Singh Ji:

I enjoyed reading your essay and introducing the fundamental concept of thing-law. I also share common interest in your research to explain the QM measurement problem or collapse of the wave function. I have developed a relativistic model to resolve the measurement problem and explain inner workings of QM in my paper - What is "Fundamental" - Is "C" the Speed of Light?. It also resolves several paradoxes of physics theories and cosmology.

I would deeply appreciate your comments/rating on my paper and would like to keep active communications with you on your ongoing research. You can contact me at avsingh@alum.mit.edu.

Best Regards

Avtar Singh

    Sorry, the link is not working. Please go directly to my paper.

    Thanks

    Avtar

    Dear Avtar,

    Thank you for your kind remarks and for reading my paper. I look forward to reading your essay.

    My best regards,

    Tejinder

    Dear Singh Saheb,

    Excellent write-up ! These words carries more weight as it comes from a Professor like you working in one of premiere Research Institute in World. It is one of the best essay submission in this context. I share the underlying thought process ingrained in your essay.

    I have also expressed my views about the mysterious nature in the submission

    https://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/2998

    I strongly believe that we Human are a self-hypnotized species - the existing knowledge base with us is too minuscule to appreciate the complexities of Nature. We have a long way to go.

    With Best Wishes

    Brajesh Mishra

    Working as Director

    Department of Telecommunications, GoI

      Dear Brajesh,

      Thank you so much for your kind remarks on my essay. I totally agree with you that we know very little; most remains to be known and discovered.

      I look forward to reading your essay.

      With regards,

      Tejinder

      Tejender, you raised a query about cosmic consciousness vis a vis human consciousness. Universe at creation had a low entropy which is constantly increasing eversince the the moment of creation. Naturally, there was a level of consciousness possessed at start but with increasing entropy, the level of consciousness will change. Universe at start had the knowledge built in that a human intelligence will evolve way way later. Then only it can appear as it happened about 15000 years back. Thus entropy implicitly contains cosmic consciousness which then distrubutes itself as life appeared in the form of plants/herbs, animals and human beings with our ancesters that evolved too!

      Dear Narendra,

      Hello. I do not really have anything more to say on consciousness at this juncture, other than what I said in my essay. I did come across this paper

      Consciousness and Entropy

      and related papers by these authors, but I think these are at this stage ongoing studies. Also, they talk of entropy as a measure of consciousness, not entropy AS consciousness.

      Regards,

      Tejinder