Hi Georgina,

i am not offended (why do you think so?). Sure didn't you say anything about Jesus healing people or not healing them. And i never made the claim that you did. My remarks on that issue are (at least for me) nonetheless valid and worth writing them down and publish them, since many people have similar ideas as yours and i think it's worth pointing out that such ideas are inconsistent when one takes into account facts that many people do not know due to lack of information.

As far as you presented your ideas, they are inconsistent for me, so i have to write why. Hope you are not offended by that. It would have been interesting to know whether or not you believe that Jesus healed a man with a withered hand the way the gospel tells. "Who says that what we already found out must be all there is?". There are many people alone here at fqxi that in fact say such a thing. Just read the many essays once again. Sure you didn't say this sentence in our conversation, but i never made the claim that you did. It is generally adressed to those who think that way.

Dear Anonymus,

your comment makes an extended reply necessary. But before dipping into moral arguments for musings that Exodus and the like are just myths, one has to calculate the historical dates of these events with the help of the numbers given in the bible. Since i want to argue scientifically and not emotionally in the first place, this is necessary. Only after such an investigation into the scientific evidence it makes sense to me to dip into moral or anthropological arguments.

Salomo's temple in Jerusalem was destroyed 586 B.C. by the Babylonians. About the life of Nebukadnezar we own many cuneiform writings with observations of 5 planets and the moon. There are about 30 informations about these planet constellations. With this we can date the time of Nebukadnezar absolutely. The result is the 19. year of Nebukadnezar (see 2 Kings, Chapter 25, 8).

Take the date of 586 B.C. as absolute historical date for the destruction of Salomo's temple. And now calculate back with the numbers contained within the bible. Eventually you now have to read some bible-texts, because we first need some numbers from first and second chronicles as well as first and second book of Kings. Add all the numbers for the kings after Salomo and you end up with 390 years. These 390 years are additionally mentioned in Hesekiel 4,4. So far we derive with that at the division of the 12 tribes after Salomo's death at 976 B.C. (586 + 390).

Then you have to read Acts 13, 21. Saul was king for 40 years. Then 2. Kings 2, 11, David was king for 40 years. Then read 2. chronicles 9, 30 where it is stated that Salomo was king for 40 years. The result is 120 years, the monarchy of Israel where these kings ruled over all 12 tribes.

Now we are in the year 1096 B.C., the year 1 of Saul. Before Saul, Israel was reigned by the Judges (book of Judges). This time period lasted about 450 years (see Acts 13, 18-20). We now arrive at 1546 B.C. and go further back with the capture of Kanaan which lasted 6 years (4. Moses, 9 and Joshua 14). With this and the walk in the desert (40 years) we arrive at 1592 B.C. (1546 + 6 + 40). And finally you have to take the 300 years in the book of Judges 11, 26 (from Jair till the last year of the desert walk) then you can derive the X for the capture of Kanaan forward until the start of the times of the Judges (14 years).

We now arrive at 1606 B.C. for the Exodus from Egypt ((1546 + 6 + 14 + 40) - much earlier than for example Israel Finkelstein and others claim. Let's look at the difference:

1606 (biblical cronology) - 1230 (Finkelstein and others) = 376 years

For professional archeologist and ägyptologists, these 376 years of difference may be very familiar to them. It was the British ägyptologist David Rohl who proposed in his book "A test of time" that one has to push the date for the Exodus some 380 years backwards, because for him, most of the cornerstone dates of ägyptology aren't tenable anymore. Of course, people like Finkelstein disagree and I think Finkelstein as well as Rohl are right: One hasn't to push the date for the Exodus backwards arbitrarily, one only has to properly read the bible. Maybe both of them haven't done that, at least Finkelstein claims that what the bible states are no more than fairy tales. It is no wonder that he concludes that at 1230 B.C. there was no such city as Jericho. Because Jericho was destroyed at about 1566 B.C. and until then never rebuilt again properly with a city wall (read this at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jericho if you like).

Dear Anonymous and Stefan,

The Periodic Table am a work of fiction. Invisible finite atoms have never existed. The English translation of the Bible am fiction. No invisible empty void has ever preceded one unified VISIBLE infinite surface ETERNALLY occurring in one infinite dimension that am always mostly illuminated by finite non-surface light.

Joe Fisher, Realist

Joe, you only provide an explanation for appearance. Appearance can not provide an explanation for how things happen, such as chemistry (i.e. the way in which it is enabled, to happen as it does). The theory of atomic elements and their characteristic properties goes a long way in explaining chemistry. I think the value of an idea is enhanced if it has explanatory power.

Georgina, pardon me asking something, but it popped up... Where can I find Joe Fisher's *explanation* for appearance?

Joe and Stefan,

"What do you see no matter in which direction you look? You see VISIBLE surface."Joe Fisher | That is appearance/how it looks.

I said "Joe, you only provide an explanation for appearance." that was not correct. As he said, he is not explaining anything. Not even how the appearance can be seen, as he denies the existence of all finite unseen things (in numerous posts all over the site).

Re "Constructing a Theory of Life":

Physicists seem obsessed with irrelevant nonsense about multiverses and black holes, but isn't it time that physicists considered something a bit more relevant?:

Do life and living things make new information contributions to the universe or don't they?

Seemingly they do, which means that physics has been barking up the wrong tree all along, when it comes to the nature of reality.

Re above post:

I tried twice, but that last line was automatically added to my post!!!

I didn't put it there!!!

I suppose the same will happen to this post!!

Re the previous post:

I've tried 3 times, but that last line keeps getting added to my post!!

I didn't put it there!!

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Ms. Ford,

I would recommend you seek professional help. That "addline" is obviously from a library type assembler which probably cut and pasted some post of yours to format it into their own website page. Open source compilers that require no sort of credentialed qualification are full of worms bred by bad actors, and the naive whom mistake them as bonefide professional venues often fall prey to exploitation themselves and become a point affliction of contageon without knowing their own system has been corrupted. Such open source compiliers exist not for genuine purpose but are only a means of generating 'hits' to accumulate a quantity of metadata that is then put into play as an intangible asset to float some sort of psuedo stock option. The current crash of cryptocurrencies is typical of such 'intangibles markets', and governance is lagging way behind technology. You may have picked up some sort of bug that is playing back your files to some physhing databank through some neophytes use of an open source publishing or other generic field compiler. There is a cyber war going on.

    I think it is clear that it is a "bug" in the FQXi system.

    This seems to be the "bug" that has been added to the FQXi script (I've removed bits so it can be seen). It's up to FQXi to clean up their act:

    a href="https://www.addthis.com/bookmark.php?v=250" onmouseover="return addthis_open(this, '', 'http://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/3244#post_148428', 'In a comment on 'Constructing a Theory of Life', Lorraine Ford writes 'Re " constructing="" a="" theory="" of="" life": br="">Physicists seem obsessed...'')" onmouseout="addthis_close()" onclick="return addthis_sendto()"> img src="https://s7.addthis.com/static/btn/lg-share-en.gif" alt="Bookmark and Share" style="border:0" width="125" height="16"> a>"

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    Ah! Now I think I realise why this has happened. In my rush, I quickly copied the article heading, inadvertently also copying the " SHARE" button. It is the script behind the " SHARE" button that caused the problem.

    So: 1) FQXi should not allow the " SHARE" button to be copied; and 2) FQXi should strip any inappropriate script out of the text of posts.

    Zeeya Merali has informed me that the problem has apparently been fixed.

    How to prove my equation E=m(b)c²+m(nb)l² ,this matter non baryonic intrigues a lot.If this matter exists, like the photons they are encoded in nuclei and can give us even a road for this quantum gravitation.A cold dark matter seems important and we can encircle this standard model.If my equation is correct, it is intuitive and general considering the matter and Energy.It will be a big rvolution for our sciences and technologies if we check this quantum gravitation and this matter non baryonic non relativistic .

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    Another variant

    http://gsjournal.net/Science-Journals/Research%20Papers/View/7238

    3 months later

    We study with a new conception beyond the standard model physics and about the formation of biological molecules/atoms. Our physical universe appeared by a continuous symmetry breaking of the new energy sources from 'Big Rip' Singularity[i.e. when space-time(here we consider the square of the Einstein's real space & time of the physical unfolded universe i.e., -R2)is infinity in another phase] to the "Super Unified Gaussian Energy Group SU(11)"(that means considering the Revised Standard Model of Physics) then GUT the "Unified Gaussian Energy Group SU(5)"[i.e., the present Standard Model of Physics], i.e. in a "Particular Physical Universe" (called a narrower universe) [there may be created several type of particular " Physical Universe" in the ocean(filled with new energy sources explained details in my previous articles) of the wider universe which infinitely largest].These class of symmetry group starting from Big-Rip singularity where energy pressure and density exists[it was shown in my article "The Complex Quantum and Classical Pseudo-Tachyonic Universe", IOSR Journal of Mathematics (IOSR-JM) e-ISSN: 2278-5728,p-ISSN: 2319-765X, Volume 8, Issue 3 (Sep. - Oct. 2013), PP 15-32 www.iosrjournals.org)] and can be expressed mathematically(by using lie-algebra) as SU(5) пѓ‰ SU (3) п‚ґ SU( 2) п‚ґ U(1); SU(11) пѓ‰ SU (5) п‚ґ SU( 6) п‚ґ U(1); SU (23) пѓ‰ SU (12) п‚ґ SU (11) п‚ґU (1); SU (47) пѓ‰ SU(24) п‚ґ SU (23) п‚ґ U (1); ...........so on.

    FOR DETAILS PLEASE READ IN THE LINK BELOW

    http://www.iosrjournals.org/iosr-jap/pages/v11(1)Series-1.html

    The spherisation of this universal sphere seems a logic conclusion,the quantum sphères are also logic like the real cosmological sphères.We are Inside a beautiful sphere in optimisation.In all Humility Feynman said this "One day we shall see allthe Truth and we shall say Oh My God but how is it possible that we have not seen a thing so simple before" They turn so they are these sphères at all scales....