The Nature of Time

so the motions rotations create the time and it seems logic indeed

It feels to me like the physics community is suffering it's own version of "creative heat death". They seem to dwell on how the universe will die in 100 billion years or a trillion years. I personally think that physicists should go outside and either scream at God and ask for intervention, or alternatively, go outside at night and beg the ALIENS to abduct them and show them how physics really works. Anything short of that is just a waste of time.

Hi Jason, there is a problem indeed , it is probably due to fact that we have more difficulties now to complete the discoveries, it is more difficult than 100 years ago , we are all persuaded also and our vanity does not arrange the problem, and more also bad habits like the strings even if I respect these works and find several mathematical relevances, maybe we must be simply less focus on our own works and work in team focus on the pure determinism and seraching concrete proofs, we need to know more and be humble also , we know also that the sciences community is divided about God, for me it is essential to consider a kind of god of spinoza, a kind of infinite eternal consciousness creating this physicality and its codes and informations. It seems foundamental to really encircle the global system.

Hi Steve,

If the Earth`s rotational period was one year rather than one day, the Sun`s position in the Earth`s sky would remain the same for any particular place on the sunny side of the Earth.

If you were on the permanently sunny side of the Earth, the Sun would gradually migrate up and down in the sky, as the Earth revolved around the Sun, as the result of the Earth`s tilted axis.

If you were on the permanently dark side of the Earth, the stars would appear to remain in the same position in the sky, although they would gradually migrate across the sky as a result of the Earth revolving around the Sun.

If the sun was at the 2 pm. position in your garden Steve, it would always be at the 2 pm. position.

Under these conditions, we would be inclined to assume that time did not exist as some kind of force or thing.

It is our reality to be travelling at the surface speed of 1,000 miles per hour at the equator, and to be seeing the all encompassing changes that the Earth`s rotational motion causes, repeating every 24 hours, perfectly matched to our clocks.

As a result, we are in error, in assuming that time exists as some kind of force or thing. It is only motion that exists, not time.

Hello Mr Snowdon, it is well said what you tell, I agree that this time is just emergent dur to motions in fact, without motions, rotations , we have no time considering this physicality, all is in motion after all in the quantum mechanics and for the universe, even the biology , this time seems a kind of different parameter than our dimensions after all, thanks for explaining ,

Please forgive my wavering faith in the physics community, but they have only succeeded in making everything complicated, without actually contributing anything new to technology, not since general relativity was created. I was outside tonight, camping, looking at the stars. The wind started to blow, and so I put out the camp fire and went inside the RV. It stirred my imagination and got me thinking about what it would be like if a UFO, alien spacecraft drifted overhead. If the outer hull was covered with LEDs, like a giant flat screen, such a saucer could almost pretend to be invisible in the night sky.

It got me thinking. What if I had a message from the ETs? Humans don't listen to me. I have great ideas that are directly applicable to gravity drive propulsion using entangled photons and centrifuges that can blueshift, redshirt entangled photons. The ideas on this forum don't lead anywhere. Mine do!

You should listen to me before the Aliens take me back for good.

Hi Jason, you could relativate a little bit maybe, the sciences community is complex and many try to find or explain our unknowns and they are not easy to explain actually. This Platform FQXi give us the chance to share our ideas and works and it is rare in a total transparence. The problem is mainly about the business around the discoveries, not really the scientists. I agree that said that the universe is simple generally but the details are complex. About God we must respect also how think the thinkers , like I told you , the sciences community is divided about god, we must recognise that nobody has the answer about this infinite potential. Nobody knows really what is this thing if it exists and how it transforms the Energy in matters and informations. We must respect the choices of persons at my humble opinion, I know that you are a catholic christian but you must also accept the ideas of others , we know that these religions can hjelp the people but can also imply problems, it is always a question of consciousness after all. About wht you told , I don t agree that only your ideas are relevant, they are assumptions and like all you must prove them to be credible. Your gravitational propulsion and gravitons must be proved and your propulsion must have a concrete design in engineering, you cannot tell that you have found if it is not proved, of course this quantum gravitation is a new step and I have my own ideas and I have reached it in thinking beyond the box, but like all I must publish to be accepted. It will be indeed revolutionary if we check this quantum gravitation but we are not there still. About the UFoS, I can understand that we have all a big imagination but there still we cannot affirm things not proved, we know that the universe is enromous and probably we are not alone but we must be rational, it is difficult to travel inside the universe due to many limitations in technology and others, if a civilisation travels and has visited us, they are probably very evolved and have just studied us a little bit in respecting the evolution natural of planets without interacting, so maybe we cannot see them even. I beleive that the humility is an important point for all humans, and also for the religious, you seem intelligent , all what I tell simply is that like all you can respect the ideas of others and you must prove like all your extrapolations. I like you but your last message shows a kind of small furstration and a kind of vanity , it is not you I beleive, you are better than this.Take care dear friend,

Hi Steve,

Thank you for your thoughts. Thank you for at least paying attention and offering proper criticism. I agree with what you have said, all of it. It is a terrible feeling to be ignored. The whole reason I went down this road, this line of thinking, was to prove that the speed of light is not a limitation for travel, because I could tell you what spacetime itself is made of. I wanted there to be hope that we are at least not alone in this universe, and that we have been visited (or could be visited).

Anyway, best wishes friend. :)

Dufourny et al., this is kind of a classic argument, but I am going to ask it of one of these outspoken physicists next time I meet one. We have the Schrodinger equation, General relativity, and so forth, and--on a first take--we evolve the equations through time. But what *sustains* the universe?? You could say: the universe doesn't need anything to sustain it. But that is just an opinion.

That's all I wanted to say. But Wolfe et al., why don't you put your ideas in a form that the relevant people could easily see they are right (or wrong)?

and about your philosphy about this universe, explain it in details and prov e its porigin, but you cannot prove nor its origin and why this energy is transforned oin matters, it d be pretentious to affirm to know the truth, you don t know it , the same for the foundamental objetcs, but maybe you could convice me with concrete arguments in physics and maths :) your post is simple and classic for me, but like we are all persuaded and vanitious us the humans, you could develop more maybe ?

it does not exist a lot of relevant general thinkers able to link maths, physics, philosophy with humility in doubting and in detailing their assumptions, Connes and Penrose for me are the best actually with Wilczek, them I will listen them if they come here in explaining their ideas, but unfortunally they are not here on FQXi, the others for the majority try to impress and satisfy their vanity, that can be sometimes relevant in cretivity but we need a pure determinism and skillingfs f

general, it is rare, are you able to be like them ? there I could be impressed with detailes maths and physics, spherically yours

lol sorry I write too quickly , so I make errors, already that I am frecnh speaking, that does not help. Well, so let s rebegin to speak about this main origin of our physicality and why, and its philosophy correlated , so tell me more about this physicality, this time, these mathematical and foundamental objects.

What I meant to say is that it could be that God sustains the universe, because the idea that the universe does't need anything to sustain it is just an opinion.

Hi Vesuvius,

It is my opinion that the universe is sustained by a constant supply of new gravitons, like a garden hose with water coming out of it, into the back yard. But these gravitons cause quantum mechanics to work, as well as the standard model particle fields. They also overlap to create the spacetime continuum. If God decided to turn off the flow of gravitons, I think that quantum mechanics would stop working, IMO.

Hi , unfortunally we cannot prove these philosophical assumptions , like I told the sciences community is divided and we are all free to have our own ideas about this but we cannot prove , nobody can prove or deny this infinite eternal potential if it exists, we are all persuaded that our philosophy is correct but a sure thing that we must accept, nobody knowns these deep unknowns, I consider like I told you an infinite eternal consciousness having created this physicality , and I respect the pure determinism inside this physicality, but like all I cannot prove my philosophy. All what we can do is just to try to encircle with maths and physics the deterministic laws, axioms, equations inside this physicality in accepting our limitations like humble travellers from stars .

about this time , the schrodinger equation can be analysed with an independent time or dependent time and it is nonrelativistic , the stationary states become relevant but how can we so consider the deep unknowns like the gravitational quantm fields ?

Solutions to the Schrodinger equation are like things that fit inside of an arbitrary potential energy. Water can fit inside of a glass or it can fit inside of a river bed; the fact that the water takes a different shape doesn't mean it's not water for both. The wave function is the same way. By that logic, a quantum entanglement can (or could be) described by a wave function. I postulated that the wave function is really a captured graviton. If so, then the entanglement between two photons is also a graviton. One might suppose that a graviton has gravitional acceleration fields built into it. But if we know that a captured graviton is identically a wave function, then we know that a graviton must have momentum, position and energy states built into it. But in order for a graviton to contribute to a gravity field, there must be momentum states that change over distance.

This is where the idea of centrifuging two entangled photons comes it, to create the momentum states that change over distance (between the photons).

Hi Jason, all this is interesting like extrapolation, but we need to know the real nature of these gravitons or particles of gravitation of spin 2, we know that we need a different logic to reach, renormalise and quantify this quantum gravitation, I have reached it in thinking beyond the box with the reasoning that I have explained, considering this cold dark matter encoded in nuclei also and balancing our standard model. This force seems the main chief orchestra and so the electromagntism is just emergent , we have a deeper gravitational logic, I have a fith force also with main gravitational codes farer than our nuclear forces, to encircle this reasoning, I consider just two fuels, the photons and the cold dark matter but we have main codes in this space , so I consider 3 main primoridal series of 3D spheres having the same finite number than our cosmological spheres ,it approachs the dirac large number and when they merge, they create our topologies, geometries, matters and fields, the deformations and geometries can be understood with an intrinsic ricci flow and we can utilise several mathematical tools like the clifford algebras, the lie groups, dervivatives and algebras, and the bott periodicity also can be utilise more the hopf fibrations on surfaces 2D of these spheres to rank the quasiparticles. In fact the universe seems simple generally and the 3 main series, the two fuels and the main codes in the space can explain all if we understand all the motions, rotations, properties of these spheres , it is like if we had a super matter Energy at this central sphere and that distributes the different combinations sent playing between the cold and heat like a equilibrium negentropy entropy, cold heat, +, electrom gravitaion,....the senses of rotations become relevant differenciating the two main systems ,and distributing the matters and the energy more the geometries.So all is relativelly the same but not the codes of distributions , that permits to distribute what they must become more the evolutive point of vue. Now philosophically speaking that becomes relevant considering the main primoridal energy, and the two main systems, that implies two aethers for the fuels, the luminiferous one for the photons and we have this GR , and the cold dark matter for the gravitational one but we have also this space more an other deeper that we can considewr that the aether of consciousness , it is the main energy for me transforming it at this central cosm sphere.The only infinite thing so is this aether of consciousness, not the others wich are finite .