Jason we can keep all our cultures and national heritages and we can converge with this conciousness towards a better global world where all we find our places in accepting the difference if and only if we respect this universal altruism , I beleive strongly that this consciousness evolving is the main piece of harmonisation towards the points of equilibrium.
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Steve,
Owning guns leads to peace.
"Universal altruism" will always be synonym for "take your guns away" because you argued it that way.
If you tell it Jason , it is probably a truth inside this universe everywhere ,the guns are universal and mean peace lol consider the evolution of this consciousness also it can open doors in your mind, don t consider only our actual state on earth, regards
"it is probably a truth inside this universe everywhere ,the guns are universal and mean peace lol consider the evolution of this consciousness also it can open doors in your mind, don t consider only our actual state on earth,"
Archangels carry swords. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vOb99wawdQ
Luke 22:35-38 35 Then Jesus asked them, "When I sent you without purse, bag or sandals, did you lack anything?" "Nothing," they answered. 36 He said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. 37 It is written: 'And he was numbered with the transgressors'; and I tell you that this must be fulfilled in me. Yes, what is written about me is reaching its fulfillment." 38 The disciples said, "See, LORD, here are two swords." "That's enough!" he replied. Matthew 26:52 52 "Put your sword back in its place," Jesus said to him, "for all who draw the sword will die by the sword .
Yes Jason I can read also, but we are not on this group to speak about the bible or the religions, like I told you, have you concrete ideas to improve this earth with sciences and consciousness in taken into account all the countries, the program of UN, the different culture, if you have ideas don t hesitate, for example , about the water, it is an impirtant point that I will develop later, so please let s focus on concrete solutions, I don t want to stop the production of guns and arms, it is not my aim, I want to find solutions where all wins and where we create jobs and improve the economy, the ecology, the educational system, the politics rationally, the technology, the medecine, this and that, so please don t put religious texts, it is not the aim , I have read all the sacred books, the problem is not there.
You want solutions? Educate your people. Teach them English, basic sciences, literature, geography, history.
Develop you infrastructure.
Invite businesses to open up factories and shops in your city/state/country. Keep wages competitive by having the best workers.
Maintain a reliable & fair legal system. Businesses rely on laws that are predictable.
Develop you technology.
Protect the rights of not just workers, but citizens. Allow citizens to have rights and freedoms. Don't brainwash them with theoretical nonsense like atheist values (which does nothing to improve their lives).
Teach the people science WITHOUT the atheist bias.
Your solutions unfortunally are limited and not really relevant, it is a common discourse without real meaning of optimisation, I wait more of you Jason, nothing is innovative and general , and about the atheism, all humans are free to beleive like they want, you cannot impose the religions to people nor inside the sciences community, you must accept the differences and be more tolerant, sorry but I am frank, you tell nothing of really innovative and wich can improve this planet with sciences and consciousness, and for the group and the rules of FQXi, stop to utilise the religions please, we are not here for this. Try to impress us , there you impress nobody you repeat too much non sense , take care , be the force with you jedi of the sphere, they turn so they are ....
WATER : we know all that the water is a foundamental and that without water , we cannot live, it is even the core of our social and economical interactions. All governments and this UN must respect with the biggest wisdom this foundamental. We can also take into account two points important at my humble opinion, the fact that we increase in number and this climate change. The balances are essential. So all governments of course must be rational and must find the best adapted solutions. A point where I d like to insist is the human unconsciousness polluting, and mainly our oceans also , we know that they are polluted and we could create adapted jobs to wash correctly the oceans, lakes , rivers and others , it is very important for the equilibriums and the lifes , we know that we have too much plactics and polluting matters and the engineerings and different methods can solve this major problem. It is not easy to make understanding to all humans and eneterprises, so during that many pollute, others must solve simply.
An other point wher I d like to insist is that many have the water but many lacks of water, we could improve this also in harmonising the global distribution, it is foundamental doe the economical and sanitary developments, for the children and women and the medecine even, for all in fact. The polluted waters also can imply diseses and the weakest pay the price, it is sad knowing that the governments can take their responsabilities if they have the suppost of the UN with concrete adapted solutions. An other point is that we could prevent also the risked place more dangerous than the others due to problems of water like the floods or others, this climate so becomes also an important to prevent and help the difficult place where the risks are important and the probabilities. We must also insist on the recycling correct of these waters , it is not made everywhere unfortunally by lacks of funds and good governances.
The sustainability and the correct utilisations with wisdom, consciousness and sciences of waters seem foundamentals , the UN have a program but not all follow this program, the problem is there, so we must evolve and act simply .
WATER : we know all that the water is a foundamental and that without water , we cannot live, it is even the core of our social and economical interactions. All governments and this UN must respect with the biggest wisdom this foundamental. We can also take into account two points important at my humble opinion, the fact that we increase in number and this climate change. The balances are essential. So all governments of course must be rational and must find the best adapted solutions. A point where I d like to insist is the human unconsciousness polluting, and mainly our oceans also , we know that they are polluted and we could create adapted jobs to wash correctly the oceans, lakes , rivers and others , it is very important for the equilibriums and the lifes , we know that we have too much plastics and polluting matters, that is why the engineerings and different methods can solve this major problem. It is not easy to make understanding to all humans, societies, lobbies, enterprises, so during that many pollute, the others must solve simply.
An other point where I d like to insist is that many have the water but many lack of water, we could improve this also in harmonising the global distribution, it is foundamental for the economical and sanitary developments, for the children and women and the medecine even, for all in fact. The polluted waters also can imply diseases and the weakest pay the price, it is sad knowing that the governments can take their responsabilities if they have the support of the UN with concrete adapted solutions. An other point is that we could prevent also the risked place more dangerous than the others due to problems of water like the floods or others, this climate so becomes also an important parameter to prevent and help the difficult places where the risks are important and the probabilities. We must also insist on the recycling correct of these waters , it is not made everywhere unfortunally by lacks of funds and good governances.
The sustainability and the correct utilisations with wisdom, consciousness and sciences of waters seem foundamentals , the UN have a program but not all follow this program, the problem is there, so we must evolve and act simply .
Ah yes!
Thank you water brother Steve. Water unites us all. It is so much more valuable than Oil, but we have not been so respectful of this our most necessary resource.
Best,
Jonathan
I humbly submit...
We need to follow a game plan such as this paper suggests, because it is the same blueprint nature uses to foster natural evolution and the survival of species.
Best,
Jonathan
Thanks to you Jonathan, sure we have not been respectful, nor for our ecosystems unfortunally, the earth could be so beautiful if we harmonised correctly our foundamentals, we are linked with the water and the earth. Hope.....
The religious fanatism is dangerous like the nationalist ideologies , and the problem is global, not only for the muslims, in europa and USA they exist also the christian extremists, and when we analyse the globality so we have an enormous problem , the USA and europa are the bigger productors of arms and weapons and the saudia arabia is the biggest buyer, and when we add the vanity, hormons, unconsciousness and other , so we have a big problem dear all if we are not well governed . The USA , europa, have wonderful universal thinkers but it exists also foundamentalists religious, and in the muslim world, we know that they are numerous against a kind of capitalism and christianity, I am worry , a global WW3 will not be made by the conscious universalists but by unconscious leaders in all countries, they exist unfortunally and I fear in the future if some politicians want to make it, they exist unfortunally and the hate also exists, I beleive that the UN must be totally universal and take its responsabilities to evitate this chaos, we have two roads, a chaotical one or a harmonised one and only the good governances universal and rational can solve this global problem because we are all linked , different due to our cultures, heritages and ideologies but linked and in the same boat and we must protect for the well of all this boat.
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Gerhard Ris Alas the only way to get to their hearts and minds is to show that a different way of understanding what a human is, will make everyone successful.
Yet that needs to be irrfutably proven in a practical test.
Only when teamed up properly and having decent bread and decent games without pestering can humans think properly. We have probably run out of time, yet might stil mke it in the nick of time.
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Steve Dufourny yes indeed it is well said, a new road tending to this universalism where the nice competing and cooperating nations well governed act with wisdom instead of this unconsciousness, the points of equilibrium can be reached. Friendly
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Ulla Mattfolk Only when teamed up properly and having decent bread and decent games without pestering can humans think properly.
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Muhammad Abdul Basit Khilji You are right.
But what is the main problem?
Don't mind.
And why?
Who they are?
The answer is Atheist. They can target every religion!!!
I saw many timeテ-- 100 in many science groups, that theses atheists target every other religions, so they will destroy our research and our science!!@
Don't mind, Atheists!!
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Steve Dufourny Hello, it is complex, the atheists sometimes can be good humans , I beleive that maybe it is the lack of consciousness,
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Muhammad Abdul Basit Khilji Not all atheists are bad!!!
There are many others in Islam, christianity......, that use bad grammar to destroy our society, but atheists can destroy our characters.
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Steve Dufourny you reach an important point indeed, all seems a question of consciousness and philosphy after all
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Muhammad Abdul Basit Khilji Yes, it is big problem.
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Steve Dufourny Muhammad Abdul Basit Khilji Yes , I am worry about the fact that many odd systems unconscious continue, they exist everywhere like the corruptions and the bad governances, maybe it is time at this UN and in all nations to give the keys in the hands of universlists, conscious having concrete global solutions in sciences also to reach these points of equilibrium, if not these unconscious lacking of universal faith are going to destroy all at my humble opinion
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Muhammad Abdul Basit Khilji Steve Dufourny Yes, there are many devils in every society mean in every religion. They are trying to destroy the peaceful environment. United Nations plus us must take action against them , to stop them. But on the other hand side some of the departments of UN failed to work equally for everyone in the world.
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1) WHO in Covid-19.
2) UN failed to solve Kashmir and Palestine territory .
3) Afghanistan fight.
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Steve Dufourny Muhammad Abdul Basit Khilji if we must make a war, it is against all these unconscious for me everywhere in all countries, a nice war in sorting them and stopping them, their only one goal is to make money, satisfy their vanity, their greed, their hormons, ego and profit of the global system, they are the global problem , and this reality exists everywhere in all countries, the nice universalists have been too nice maybe in fact simply
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Steve Dufourny Muhammad Abdul Basit Khilji yes sure I agree, the UN seems to have too much problems to solve and lack of potential, their goals are essential but they don t reach them, they are just words , it is still due to fact that the majority don t respect these hoals with this said consciousness
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Steve Dufourny Muhammad Abdul Basit Khilji if you want , you are welcome on this group that I have created on FQXi , global collaboration, our goal is to unite the real universal scientists and create a manifest of solutions adapted to convice this UN, it is the begining but I will not stop, we must try to solve
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Muhammad Abdul Basit Khilji Steve Dufourny yes, you are right. UN can't solve every problem in the world. I think it is impossible!!
But Kashmir and Israel- Palestine both are problems in which N- number of simple and good villagers were killed. ...Voir plus
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Steve Dufourny Muhammad Abdul Basit Khilji I can understand indeed , the hate increases in many nations due to fact that we don t solve generally and globally, so people looses confident in this UN, the same for the hunger the forgot place, children die and we go on mars ,it is more than paradoxal, it is ironical and sad, it lacks several universal parameters, in fact people speaks but don t act really at this UN unfortunally, we must change , if not we shall pay quickly the price and the chaos will be a reality instead of this harmony
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Muhammad Abdul Basit Khilji Steve Dufourny yes Sir, that's the reality.
On the hand side, Since last 6 months American especially President Trump saying, UN working only for Chinese, while Chinease blaming Americans.
People in Asia thinking " American is the UN.
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Steve Dufourny Muhammad Abdul Basit Khilji there is a problem of ideology between these two countries, I beleive strongly that the balance between them is a foundamental, the china, and USA could find the points of equilibrium between the capitalism conscious and the socialism conscious, but the big question is, are they ready to work together for the well of all, they must take their responsabilities it seems to me
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Steve Dufourny India, europa and the arabic world also must work with them
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Muhammad Abdul Basit Khilji Steve Dufourny that's the correct 100%.
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Don t be still persuaded, you affirm still too much, I am more tolerant than you and it is easy to see for all rational universal thinkers, you you are not tolerant, I respect all religions when they are not foundamentalists extremists wanting to impose their ideologies to the others, I have friends in belgium, they are catholics, others are muslims or chines and they are nice, they are not the problem, the extremists religious thinking that only their religions is the truth are the problem for me, mayve you are like this , I am not sure still but in seeing your comportments and ideologies, I belein to think that yes you are an extremists judeo christian not tolerant, you cannot accept the other religions I beleive and the other ideologiues, it is easy to recognise, you act like an elected connected with god and praying a book to satisfy this, it is not the persons like you I beleive who are tolerant and are able to speak in a total universalism and democracy, but maybe I am false,the persons like this are quickly irritated when we think differently, me I respect your religions and biblle if and only if it is not extremist and fanatic , you don t possess the truth, nobody in fact, the real secret is to be a good universal human full of love , democracy and tolerance, it is simple
so yes you are false, I love the faith and the real persons of faith nice, tolerant, kind, praying the universal love, I am against the others stupid in fact simply extremists and fanatics,praying with a fake love to satisfy their syndrom of elected and in fact who don t like the differences and so their fellowmen really, they are easily recognisables, they speak always about their God, they beleive that they are special and elected, they don t accept no other religions, no other philosophies, no others ideas , beliefs and ideologies, all what they want is that all live and think like them, they are actually a big global problem in all religions, the others quiet and nice are not the problems, a conscious jew, hindouist, buddhist, christian, muslim understanding the universal love and altruism they can eat together at the same table in respecting each others and in sharing this love, the extremists cannot do this, their hate eats them unfortunally, they don t understand god simply, they beleive that yes because they have simply a psychological problem probably due to their encodings, evolution, environments and education, they are not going to solve this planet, the real universalists yes, we see quickly that they don t accept this truth due to their vanity, so they attack or are angry or want to have the last word, in fact that shows a non tolerance and a fanatism simply, they are sick for me
I have met overbearing religious people before. Do you know what is worse than an overbearing religious person? An overbearing atheist.
An overbearing atheist is willfully blind. You could show them that the universe, the laws of physics, are so elegantly designed, like a Farrari of universes. The atheist will close their eyes, lie, and say: Nope! It was an accident!
I have met many overbearing atheists who were supposed to be educated in the sciences in such a way that they saw no need for God. But when you press them, when you ask questions about physics, it turns out they don't know any physics. Their knowledge is FAKE.
In a time when people need hope, need to know that God loves them, the overbearing atheist says "they beleive that yes because they have simply a psychological problem probably due to their encodings, evolution, environments and education,"...
you rebegin your circus Jason ? I have explained that I d like a world in the future without guns and weapons because the consciousness evolve and that we can live in peace in respecting all diffrences, cultures, heritages, nations, and yes I am for the universal love, but apparently you are against this, are you an extremist also hating the persons who think differently , I irritate you with this universal love and altruism and my theory and project, what is the problem ? the vanity or the jealousy or the fact that I don t think like you, it is like this that the extremist think Jason, I beleive that are smarter than this, don t try to lie about me, ypou cannot make this , it is not well and not christian, don t forget, you shall not lie, you shall not kill, and vanities of vanity, all is vanity, so be a real universal Jedi of the Sphere with an universal love tolerant and democrate, I consider me like a christain buddhist modern rational thinking in a gods of Spinoza like einstein , are you against this ?
You must respect the atheists , it exists very good atheists also more universal and logic than some theists, personally I am a theist thinking in god but differently than you, is it a problem ?, you don t possess the truth about the creator, you are a human equal to all , don t insist and be tolerant