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PANEL (left to right)⁠ - Pinar Emirdag, Global Head of Digital Client Services at JP Morgan - Melanie Eusebe, Director at Google - Bob Coecke, Chief Scientist at Quantinuum - Leonor Diaz Alcantara, CEO of the Montessori Group⁠ - Fotini Markopoulou-Kalamara, Co-founder and CEO of Empathic Technologies⁠

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Despite what Leonor Diaz Alcantara, CEO of the Montessori Group,⁠ says about the importance of creativity, e.g. “science is creative” and “we need to encourage children to be creative”,

FQxI members seemingly don’t really believe that the world/ universe is genuinely creative.

Seemingly, what FQxI members actually believe, is that what happens in one moment in the universe (1) is entirely due to deterministic laws of nature and the previous moment in the universe (1).

If the world is not genuinely creative, if the world is purely deterministic and random, then what is the point of all this angst and discussion? Why bother struggling against the immutable nature of the world?

What exactly does FQxI think it is doing, if FQxI members don’t actually believe that the world, including its people and other living things, can be genuinely creative?

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  1. Where a “moment” in the universe might be represented as an enormous table showing the numbers that apply to categories like position and momentum.

    Lorraine Ford
    Re creativity:

    The underlying low-level world is not doing mathematics. Mathematics is a specialised high-level human recreational activity. Mathematics clearly doesn’t exist without mathematicians, with their conscious imaginations, their agency, and their special symbols.

    However, the world clearly has underlying low-level relationships that can be represented by statements containing special symbols, i.e. mathematical equations (which include symbols for categories like momentum and energy), and symbols for numbers. And the world clearly is a system, where representing the necessary aspects of a viable system requires the use of statements containing the following types of symbols: IF, AND, OR, IS TRUE, and THEN, etc.

    But what is creativity? Creativity is a leap, a jump, a non-logical, non-deterministic response to an on-the-spot situation. After the fact, creativity can be represented by IF…THEN… statements representing the before and after situation, with the understanding that there is no necessary, no logical, no deterministic connection between the IF and the THEN. After the fact, creativity is represented by the appearance of new relationships, which would usually be represented as the assignment of new numbers to categories. Creativity is the creation of new low-level relationships.

      Lorraine Ford
      Re creativity (continued):

      One can only be amazed by the incredible self-deception of physicists and philosophers, with their very lazy concept of “randomness”, and all the hoo-ha around the concept of randomness.

      In fact, randomness is a very definite thing that can ONLY be mathematically represented as the assignment of new numbers to existing categories, e.g. the assignment of new numbers to the relative position category.

      I.e. so-called “randomness” is the same as creativity, and it is a very definite thing: it is the creation of new low-level relationships. The outside-of-the-laws-of-nature assignment of new numbers to existing categories IS the creation of new low-level relationships.

        Lorraine Ford
        In physics, a “random” outcome is actually a very definite thing.

        A “random” outcome is actually only mathematically representable as the outside-of-the-laws-of-nature assignment of a number to a category (like the relative position category).

        So, a “random” outcome is actually only symbolically representable as the creation of a new relationship which equates a number to a category.

        So, GENUINE creativity (i.e. the creation of new low-level relationships) is at the heart of what makes the world function.

        Creativity is not a thing that needs to be encouraged (e.g. in young people) because creativity is at the heart of what makes the world, including people and other living things, function.

        This creativity has nothing to do with logical outcomes and nothing to do with deterministic outcomes.

        So yeah, meetings and discussions are needed (e.g. “Dialogues Between Science, Business and Education”) ONLY BECAUSE the resolution of situations in the world can't be 100% automatically determined by laws of nature.

          4 days later

          Lorraine Ford
          (continued)

          This creativity (symbolically representable as the on-the-spot creation of new low-level relationships that equate numbers to categories) is what is powering the world (i.e. what is moving/ jumping the numbers in the world).

          Numbers are the “currency”, the thing used as a medium of exchange.

          The law of nature relationships (symbolically represented by the special equations of physics) are like a currency exchange which responds to the number changes provided by creativity.

          But clearly, the law of nature relationships themselves are not powering the world.

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