FQxI's Essay Competition Asks How Quantum is Life? Plus Plant Intelligence, Phys

marcovici alexandru

As I said: I think you should quit dreaming and imagining such nonsense, unless you are in fact a child.

tree solving crossword puzzles i think is a good idea it can be done ✅

with leaves falling the input output should not be in real time with how you water and step on the nearby souil - should be -i dont know like - seasonal ? Jahreszeiten /anotimpuri / сезоны / saisons /årstider/stagioni/εποχές/ 季节/季節/עונות/المواسم

Lorraine Ford

“Randomness” or “quantum randomness” doesn’t actually exist. “Random” is just a description for behaviours/ outcomes, where an observer can find no rhyme or reason in what he/ she is observing.

Non-random behaviours/ outcomes, on the other hand, have a cause:

Behaviours/ outcomes that, when appropriately symbolically represented, are seen as being necessitated by an equation and/or an algorithm.
Free will behaviours/ outcomes, where free will is the cause of an outcome (free will can be algorithmically represented as being the more-or-less logical (or even illogical) response to a symbolically represented situation).

Perhaps the old idea of “order out of chaos” is to blame for the idea that there is an actual “randomness” thing. This idea of “order out of chaos” always was truly absurd, because underlying the so-called “chaotic” systems were non-random equations and non-random algorithms. I.e. the so-called “chaos” always was just superficial appearances. AND the so-called “order” never had any order at all, apart from that given by the underlying equations and algorithms.

Lorraine Ford

Biology can’t explain why a system, or a living organism, would ever move/ change/ evolve in response to its surroundings, or how a system, or a living organism, would know about itself and its surroundings. “Survival of the fittest” and other seemingly-causal, Platonic, entities don’t even exist. However, this movement aspect of the world and this knowledge aspect of the world, are seen in their most primitive form in the “quantum” behaviours of matter.

Physics’ “law of nature” equations merely represent relationships, and there are no equations/ relationships that can explain movement or knowledge either, but there it is, in the “quantum” behaviours of matter. Instead, the equations that represent relationships merely assume movement and knowledge on the part of the system, or small parts of the system.

On the other hand, computer systems analysts and computer programmers just might say that the symbolic representation of a knowledge aspect, and the symbolic representation of a movement aspect, are a necessary part of any computer program, and that this is the entire reason that AIs can seem lifelike.

“Law of nature” equations can be symbolically represented in computer programs, but the movement and knowledge aspects are symbolically represented with special logical symbols like: IF, AND, OR, IS TRUE, and THEN.

These movement aspects and knowledge aspects are necessary component parts of viable, moving, real-world systems, including living organisms.

Lorraine Ford

We have a way of representing the basic aspects of the physical world, in terms of categories (like mass or relative position), relationships between these categories (represented as equations that represent laws of nature), and numbers that apply to the categories.

But we do not have a basic way of representing consciousness and agency, seemingly because no particular use can be found for consciousness and agency in the world.

I’m saying that, on the contrary, basic-level consciousness and agency are the necessary logical aspects of the real-world moving system:

Consciousness is the time-place aspect of the system that says what set of categories and associated numbers are currently time-place TRUE. This aspect of the system can’t be represented as categories, equations and numbers alone.
Agency is the time-place aspect of the system that moves/ jumps the numbers that apply to the categories. This aspect of the system can’t be represented as categories, equations and numbers alone. The law-of-nature equations, with their partial derivative and/ or delta symbols, merely assume movement, they don’t represent the aspect of the system that causes movement.

However, the logical statements in computer programs already have a way of representing basic-level consciousness and agency, using symbols like: IF, AND, OR, IS TRUE, and THEN.

Equations alone are not sufficient to represent the real-world moving system: a viable moving system also requires logical aspects. The “quantum” aspects of the world are the logical aspects of the world; the “quantum” aspects of the world are the consciousness and agency aspects of the world.

Lorraine Ford

Computer systems analysts and computer programmers have always been aware that a set of equations does not represent a viable system: a viable moving system needs logical aspects, and in fact the equations are optional.

These logical aspects are the aspects whereby the system (or small parts of the system) knows its own categories and numbers, and the aspects whereby the system (or small parts of the system) jumps its own numbers that apply to the categories.

These logical aspects are the aspects of the real-world moving system that are embodied in the “quantum” behaviours of matter, and the aspects that allow matter to organise itself into living organisms. So-called “self-organisation” can only occur because matter knows its own categories and numbers, and because matter moves its own numbers.

So instead of the nonsensical woo-woo of “self-organisation”, it is time to look at the non-physical logical aspects of the world. These non-physical logical aspects of the world are necessary in order for the real-world moving system to exist, and necessary in order for matter to organise itself into living organisms.

Lorraine Ford

Lorraine Ford
(continued)

I am contending that matter has non-physical logical aspects that are necessary in order for the real-world moving system to exist, and are also necessary in order for matter to organise itself into living organisms. These are the IF, AND, OR, IS TRUE, and THEN aspects of the world; these are the non-physical and non-measurable consciousness and agency aspects of the world.

But the voltages, transistors and circuits in computers are physical components that merely symbolically represent logic in a physical way. This is not the “non-physical logic” I was referring to in the above paragraph. Unfortunately, an awful lot of people have been comprehensively fooled into believing that genuine logic is occurring inside computers; instead, there are voltages, transistors and circuits which merely represent logic.

Lorraine Ford

As someone who was awarded a High Distinction for Mathematical Methods in my university science course, I think I am qualified to say that equations do not represent a moving system, equations can only ever represent relationships. Replacing numbers with number changes, via the use of delta or partial differential symbols, makes no difference: equations do not represent a moving system, equations can only ever represent relationships.

And yet, at the foundations of reality, they found the source of all subsequent number change: quantum number jumps that are unencumbered by the equations.

Nevertheless, they struggled mightily, and continue to struggle, to turn the number jumps into equations; others wanted, and continue to want, to turn the number jumps into an elaborate story where all possible numbers exist, and the universe is continually manifolding.

But the equations always did require a source of number movement, and when they found the source of number movement in the universe, they didn’t want to believe it.

So, these continually occurring quantum number jumps, by matter, are the only reason why the universe moves, and these continually occurring quantum number jumps are the only reason why matter can move and organise itself into living organisms.

But these quantum number jumps can’t be represented by equations: quantum number jumps can only be represented algorithmically.

Lorraine Ford

Lorraine Ford
The equations that represent laws of nature merely represent mathematical relationships between categories, so these equations can’t explain why the world is moving.

I.e. the equations can’t explain why the numbers (that apply to the categories like relative position) would ever start to change, or continue to change, except as a consequence of other number change, and in this case, the numbers would passively change due to the mathematical relationships between the categories.

So “quantum number jumping”, i.e. matter jumping its own numbers, is the solution to the problem of “why is the world moving?”.

And matter (i.e. small parts of the universe) jumping its own numbers is also the solution to the problem of “what is doing the number jumping?”.

Instead of being a weird problem, “quantum number jumping” is the solution to a problem.

marcovici alexandru

soo all this forest since fifteen century has been replaced by cities and streets with humans wandering around

basically what humans have to do is stay in the sun all day and do lots of drinking of water and transpiration
to maintain a stable temperature of earth surface just like forest do (eventually cover the streets and cities with some materials that can help cool the earth surface

evolution of fashion has had in the beginning practical purposes does having a tattoo with an equation counts for fashion

how human behavior is being influenced by weather is a topic in itself
body physiology- if for trees there in forest there is a diminishing in luminosity depending on the forest type circa 10 percent of sunlight reach the ground than what would be a similar activity for humans in terms of fashion

there are many ideas possible one lets say with shoes from now on a certain group of people decide to wear shoes with holes under the feet such that there is exposure to air and a bit of soil this over many generation of consistent practicing this fashion might develop in to higher sensitivity to roads texture or temperature

wearing a certain clothing in terms of communication serves no communication purpose if this does not have a reply back , an uniform is a symbol of status that is being repeated there is no interaction, is an monologue on the human behalf (that is happening also with other animals with their natural covers, there is no reasons to have more internal states reveal by visual means thing like red-blood is a high distress signal recognizable by most animals
in the plant word the fast distress signals is basically non existent a broken branch does not leave any visible trace
(sure there are many exception like with rubber tree or Ficus like shrubs that have some amber like secretions )

so lets say there is a patch of skin from the forearm covered with a material that has increasing heat with a layered cloth and the other is consistently uncovered, this creates an epigenetic reaction localy than it might lead to mutations

🦥 slowing things down 🐌

in terms of ecological systemic diversity , there is an unocupied nieche for humans behaviors

there is a comparison betwenn imunitary cell police, brain the governent, , an incomplete comparison

just because the body looks and behave in a certain way does not necessarily means that the society should reflect at a higher scales its features ( the same with videos on a vide archive (delayed communication ) like youtube that is sorting the video based on the main brain area and functions (emotions ,cultures languages, )

so what new kind of social systems could be tried , so far so good the humans is perfect and flawless
humans must have all the rights everything else must be changed to accommodate what humans want and do

(today i saw a video about the idea that humans don't need nature)

in the same spirit humans can be marketed to want lots of products

why not to invent a fashion where instead of sunglasses, hat or watch people to wear living plants and must move slowly horizontally in order not to disrupt the plant soil , were to have this maybe on shoulder or maybe like a backpack

~~pet dog or pet cats~~ clothing like - pet, plants ,
( with certain sizes limitation ,carrying an flower while growing in all its stages might be hard for a rose 🌹with sharp spikes
,
for a dandelion might easier up to yellow flower after that pappus might need a wind protection, a sunflower is to large 🌻 and the roots might have more kilograms and the height of it is imposing to many bodly movement restrictions

there are other smaller species up to seven centimenters including the pot,
for example various cactus 🌵 could be a good always carry with yourself candidate

symbiosis would need an edible species like parsley or onion
the accleration of a normal day to day commute would disrupt seriously the roots so
a better choice might be doing hidroponics cultivation

i have not verified if someone has already done this idea ( i mean to live (24-8)/7/365 /five years continuously)
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marcovici alexandru

Lorraine Ford
spectroscopically, the distance between jumps is a positive🌈 REAL number with arbitrary small values ?
ℝ_{+}

Lorraine Ford

The ONLY aspects of “quantum mechanics” relevant to the question of how life could have arisen are:

The “quantum” aspect of matter whereby matter knows its own current surroundings (represented in terms of currently-true numbers that apply to categories like relative position, all connected by logical ANDs), and
The “quantum” aspect of matter whereby matter moves itself in response to this knowledge of its current surroundings (represented in terms of number jumps for some of the numbers that apply to the categories).

Lorraine Ford

marcovici alexandru
I think that the brains of the universe reside in matter, i.e. small parts of the universe. Matter is related to other matter via the categories, and matter interacts with other matter, but matter seemingly doesn’t exist inside the categories, i.e. matter doesn’t exist inside the space or time or mass categories. So, there are seemingly no actual separate space or time dimensions with their “number lines” and vanishingly small distances between points on the line.

In any case, in order to talk about the world, we have to use manmade symbols for categories (like relative position, or mass), symbols for relationships between the categories, and symbols for numbers that apply to the categories. But these symbols are not the actual real-world categories, relationships or numbers. Also, the number symbols depend on the unit of measurement. And also, not every number that exists in the human imagination actually exists out there in the real world.

So, what are numbers? Realistically, I think that real-world number-jump numbers can only be newly created mathematical relationships between the categories, where the numerator and denominator categories cancel out; matter assigns these numbers to the categories (like the relative position category), which are in turn mathematically related to other categories.

These law-of-nature mathematical relationships between the categories transform the number-jump numbers (that apply to some categories) into other, more complicated, numbers (that apply to other categories).

And these relationships/ numbers don’t just exist; the small parts of the system, i.e. matter, needs to be aware of their existence.

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