Interferometric detection of gravitational waves: understanding if Einstein\'s General Relativity is the correct and definitive theory of gravity will be Ultimately Possible in Physics by Christian

Quadrupole means four poles. A magnetic field is always dipolar, with a north and south pole together. A quadrupole magnetic has two north and two south poles. Fields are usually expanded in monopole, dipole, quadrupole, octupole and so forth terms.

Cheers LC

A matter of clarification. I said a magnetic field is always dipole. What I really meant to say is there are no magnetic monopoles (ordinarily in classical EM) and the magnetic field is dipole or higher,

Cheers LC

Take your time. If you find something wrong of course I need to know. This is an idea which ended up being stilborn, but maybe there is something in there of use.

Cheers LC

Dear Dr Corda

There is no experimental data that mass emit or absorb some hypothetical gravitational waves in a similar wax as electromagnetic waves. Dr. Loinger from Milano considers that gravitational waves emitted from mass are fictitious entities:

Loinger A. The gravitational waves are fictitious entities - II

http://arxiv.org/vc/astro-ph/papers/9904/9904207v1.pdf (2004)

yours amritAttachment #1: 4_TIMELLESS_QUANTUM_SPACE.doc

Dear Dr. Corda

Clocks measure a frequency, velocity and numerical order of change. Experimental date confirms that changes and clocks do not run time; they run in quantum space only. Time is not a part of quantum space. Quantum space itself is timeless. In the universe as a whole amount of matter energy and amount of quantum space energy tends to be constant. Density of mass and density of quantum space in a given volume of quantum space tends to be constant. Mass here is considered as a compressed energy of quantum space. Presence of mass in a given volume of quantum space diminishes its density. Massive objects move always into direction of lover density of quantum space. Gravitational motion of massive objects is result of change of density of quantum space. In space with no change of density massive object will not have gravitational move as in centre of stellar objects or in a flat quantum space where massive objects are far away. In General Relativity change of density of quantum space is described with change of its curvature. Lower is density of quantum space bigger is its curvature.

Mass does not emit or absorb some hypothetical gravitational waves in a similar wax as electromagnetic waves. Gravitational waves emitted from mass seem to be fictitious entities. Gravity does not work between stellar objects on distance. Gravity is result of change of density of quantum space generated with presence of mass.

Gravitational wave as a ripple of timeless quantum space is a change of density Ds of quantum space. It happens by transformations mass-space and vive versa and expands through quantum space with a light speed. Astronomical observations of diminishing of speed of rotation (orbit time) of binary neutron stars PSR1913+16 is here explained by transformation of mass of stars into quanta of space. It is not that mass transforms into gravitational radiation. Mass transforms into quanta of space that creates increasing of density Ds of quantum space. This ripple of increasing density Ds moves through the quantum space with a light speed as a "gravitational wave".

yours amritAttachment #1: QUANTUM_SPACE_DENSITY_CHANGE.doc

The Hulse Tayor observation of the increased frequency of the double pulsar does pretty clearly indicate gravitational waves.

I attach a nother set of notes on entanglements and gravity waves. I did some of these calculations which I have banged out in these notes.

Cheers, LCAttachment #1: ntglmentgrwaves.pdf

Christian,

Sorry for the brief post above which gives little explanation of the attachment, There was a televised biography of Charles Darwin which I was intent on. This does spell out some of the fundamental basics of entanglements and gravity waves as I think they work. This is curiously not just about gravity wave detection, but additionally about quantum fields in curved spacetime. This might be considered to be almost a graviton detection system. Indeed this approach to detecting gravity waves might be best applicable to short wavelength gravity waves, such as what might be expected from quantum gravitons which were spread out into gravity waves during cosmic inflation.

This does not discuss an explicit system of atoms or quantum systems for such detection. There are also considerable issues with noicse. Clearly there will be competing issues of thermal noise and stochastic processes in information channels here.

Cheers LC

Dear Christian

High-impact factor peer-reviewed international journal for now will never publish idea that physical time is run of clocks in timeless quantum space and that change of density/curvature of quantum space generates gravity.

For them space-time as a fundamental arena of the universe is a foundation (1)

I send similar article published here above to International Journal of Theoretical Physics.

Just to remind them that (1) might be wrong.

yours amrit

The paper by Arun and Sivaram is interesting, but I think there is a problem. A thermal source might be thought to emit this radiation, but there are a couple of things that are troubling here, which might be how I am reading this. There is the quote

Putting in these values we get the power of thermal gravitational waves emitted as, E ~ 10^9Watt at a frequency of ~ 10^{17} Hz . The flux of thermal gravitational waves from the sun, received at earth is of the order of

half a watt.

For one thing if this power is what is integrated over the surface of the sun, then this is reduced by 10^{-16} per unit area out to the Gaussian sphere the Earth's orbit sits on. So I would think this power would be far smaller than a watt. I presume this is a watt receieved over the whole earth, so the gravi-radiance (w/m^2) would be very small.

To be honest we could conduct direct experiments with this! I am not a big upholder of nuclear weapons, and have spent some time and energy trying to reduce their numbers, or maybe eliminate them. However, casting those concerns aside, a nuclear explosion is a 10^6K temperature and the major departure from the main sequence case is the volume. So rather than being a volume of ~ 10^{15}km^3 a nuclear fireball is ~ 10^3 km^3, this might seem to reduce the energy by a factor of ~ 10^{-12} or more, but the detector can be placed close to the nuclear event, so there is no 1/r^2 reduction. So just ballparking numbers we might actually be able to detect a few microwatts of gravitational radiation in the 10^{17}Hz range. These are very small wave length gravity waves, in the submicron range.

Maybe my approach with using quantum devices and atoms could be used to detect this sort of gravitational radiation.

Cheers LC

Christian I publish my articles on viXra that is alternative to arXiv

Amrit S. Sorli, Mathematical Space-time, Neuronal Space-time and Timeless Quantum Space,

http://vixra.org/abs/0910.0004 (2009)

Amrit S. Sorli, Density/curvature of Quantum Space Generates Gravitational Motion

http://vixra.org/abs/0910.0007 (2009)

Amrit S. Sorli, Einstein Curvature Tensor And Density Tensor of Quantum Space

http://vixra.org/pdf/0910.0014v1.pdf (2009)

Amrit S. Sorli, Consciousness as a Basic Frequency of Quantum Space

http://vixra.org/pdf/0910.0018v1.pdf (2009)

If you want I'm ready we write article together and send it to high-impact factor peer-reviewed journal. I have math description for density of quantum space. It is 1/G where G is Einstein curvature tensor.

my mail is sorli.bistragmail.com

contact me if you are willing to publish together

yours amrit

Comment to Corda

There are two groups of researchers showing scientific demonstration of

unknown influences on the rate of radio-active decay of various nuclides.

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Evidence for Correlations Between Nuclear Decay Rates and Earth-Sun Distance

Jere H. Jenkins,1 Ephraim Fischbach,1, ∗ John B. Buncher,1 John

T. Gruenwald,1 Dennis E. Krause,1, 2 and Joshua J. Mattes1

1Physics Department, Purdue University, 525 Northwestern Avenue, West Lafayette, Indiana, 47907, USA

2Physics Department, Wabash College, Crawfordsville, Indiana, 47933, USA

(Dated: August 25, 2008)

Unexplained periodic fluctuations in the decay rates of 32Si and 226Ra have been reported by groups at Brookhaven National Laboratory (32Si), and at the Physikalisch-Technische- Bundesandstalt in Germany (226Ra). We show from an analysis of the raw data in these experiments that the observed fluctuations are strongly correlated in time, not only with each other, but also with the distance between the Earth and the Sun. Some implications of these results are also discussed, including the suggestion that discrepancies in published half-life determinations for these and other nuclides may be attributable in part to differences in solar activity during the course of the various

experiments, or to seasonal variations in fundamental constants.

PACS numbers: 23.60.+e,23.40.-s,96.60.-j,96.60.Vg,06.20.Jr

Keywords: alpha decays, beta decays, solar activity, fine structure constant, neutrinos

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Realization of discrete states during fluctuations in macroscopic

processes

S E Shnoll, V A Kolombet, E V Pozharski|¯, T A Zenchenko, I M Zvereva, A A Konradov

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Both are arxiv articles.

I think that the influences described by both group may be related to gravitational influence.This influence is taken as support for the proposed method of gravitational wave detection. A wave of time rate variation for the gravitational wave is my own interpretation for GW.

Marcel,

Any paper which has the author name Ephraim Fischbach on it should be automatically considered wrong until demonstrated otherwise. I took classes from this guy. What amazed me the most about him is how a person who is so consistently wrong about physics can become a full professor of physics at a fairly well rate university.

Lawrence B. Crowell

Christian,

I was wondering if you had any comments on Bell's theorem and gravity wave detection that I sent you a couple of weeks ago.

Cheers LC