Dear Steve,
The limit value of a rotating sphere of cluster-matters is within the limit value of its super-sphere of cluster-matters and so on to the next, whereas the value of universe is 1 and I think universality differ from entirety, thanking you ..
Yours jayakar
Dear Jayakar ,
Thus if I understand well ,that implies different thermodynamic laws between these clusters .
How are these limits balanced,please ?
regards
Steve
Dear Steve,
When an integral of energy-mass (energy of mass) from a source cluster-matter is transferred to a target cluster-matter, in that energy is a vector with mass and energy-mass is a function; there is convolution of that energy-mass integral from source domain and an integral of energy-mass at the target domain. Thereby the referential for limit in each domain is within them, whereas the referential for the product of convolution is at the hyper-domain common for both domains, thereby the limits are balanced; that is thermodynamic, good, thanking you ..
Yours jayakar
Dear Jayakar ,
Thanks ,like an exchange between these systems in fact .Is it adiabatic ?
Do you use the ideal gas ?
What about the entropy ?
Best Regards
Steve
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Dear Steve,
Self-constrained rotational energy of a cluster-matter is the entropy of that cluster-matter, in that it is adiabatic.
I think if we workout with a phenomena expressional for wave travel in a matrix in that path integral is applied, then the ideal gas law may be applicable on this also. Thanking you ..
Yours jayakar
Hi dear Jayakar ,Dear Narendra Nath ,
Thanks Jayakar ,it is very interesting about the integration in the matrix under thermoduynamical laws .It could be well too to insert the Bose Einstein condensate .
What do you think ?
Dear Narendra ,
It is very important what you say about the health.I have always thought what the spirituality is a driving force of the sciences, where the improvements and the optimisations and equilibriums become a reality in the interactions .
In a whole point of vue ,the complementarity is too a universersality thus all is complementary of course .
Let's take for exemple the nature ,the plants .I study since several years the potential of plants in medecine and health .Some families are very relevant about their properties,their essential oils are incredibles .One of my favorite is the Salvia Officinalis"tricolor",these aromatics ,benzo are very incredibles.In fact the plants have many secrets (antibiotic,antiseptic,diuretic,.....)
They evolve these plants and they are there to help us in fact .
Best Regards to both of you
Steve
Dear Steve,
Regretting for the delay in replay; I think the Bose-Einstein condensate itself is evident of a, Coherently-cyclic cluster-matter universe model in that rotation and rotational energy is essential for every matter in the universe for their identity of existence as cluster-matters to maintain their coherent dynamics. Absolute zero temperature is not reachable. Thanking you.
With best regards
Jayakar
Hi dear Jayakar ,
Don't worry ,I understand the importance of the time and the responsability in our society .
About your answer ,yes indeed ,evidently .
I think what the volume of groups of spheres is essential with their rotations orbitals and spinals .the ideal limit of course is between 1....and 1 ,the center and the maximum volume.inside this closed system in the uniqueness .One turns in the max and the other more the evolutive time tending towards the maximum energy ,mass and thus this universal sphere doesn't turn of course .The volumes and the mass correlated withj the rotating spheres seem relevant in an universal point of vue .
Thanks dear Jayakar ,good luck in your work and researchs .
Best Regards
Steve
Thank you dear Steve,
The spheres of rotations of elements in a group/cluster-matter are as two spheres rotate in opposite directions and one sphere in eigenstate; and the emerging collective rotation of that cluster-matter is expressional in three-dimensional space. The sphere of rotation that is representational by spin quantum numbers and the three dimensional volume that is representational by non zero positive integer, are applicable for this model also.
If an elementary-matter is one dimensional string then its orbit of rotation is a two dimensional membrane that has no volume, whereas all three orbits for the elementary-matters of elementary cluster-matter is representational as three dimensional brane that has volume and can be assumed as elementary volume. Thereby in a closed system of cluster-matters, increase of rotational energy is by the increase of energy-mass from external to the system. The increase of rotational energy is expressional as increase of volume from the centre of rotations. That is the elementary volume is in correlation with elementary mass in that there is energy-mass flux.
With thanks & regards
Jayakar
Hi dear Jayakar ,
Thanks for your answer ,
here is mine .
I like your extrapolations ,Where I disagree it is about the strings of course and the variability of the volume .Too about the changement of velocities of rot .It seems to me not foundamental ,probably due to the membrans ,the strings and the external energy .I am not sure what we can change the ultim main sphere and its code of informations ,rules ,rotations ,mass ,polarities ,synchronizations .
I think what each sphere is specific and furthermore the velocity of rotation is constant ,thus the mass is specific with all these rotating spheres .
The rotation is relatively constant like the mass and the time ,we perceive the evolution but the increase of mass by weak interations is of course a relative perception .
The volume is specific and the rotations too like the mass .Thus the energy which is a little different with the mass is correlted with pragmatism .
All group of spheres is specific.
A string is divisible , a sphere no .....all our system is an equation with thermodynamical laws of evolution where the specificities of bodies ,mainly these spheres are coded since the begining in a beautiful dance of spheres and rotations .Towards an ultim aim .The mass has a cause ,the rotations of these quantum spheres .The cosmological spheres are correated with the velocity of rotations locally and universaly .
Thanks too and Best Regards
Steve
Dear Steve,
As per this model, elementary matter may not exists individually or in pairs and if in pairs they merge into single elementary matter by gravity that is the prime fundamental force for all other fundamental forces as they metamorphose from gravitation. If they are in triplets as cluster-matters, to conserve their identity from collapse, they have rotations that are driven by their interactions with their related cluster-matters. To describe the coherency and relativity of a cluster-matter, the hierarchy of super-cluster matter set and the probabilistic conjugation of cluster-matters, are ascribed.
Thereby the string theory is much applicable for this model with some variations to describe the elementary structures and their relativity, in that gravity is representational as a tensor product. A single elementary-matter and its orbital are not applicable for this model as one dimensional and two dimensional representations are not volume determinants. Increase in energy-mass is causal for the increase of membrane area and angular velocity of an elementary matter, collectively expressional as increase of volume of elementary cluster-matters in an unclosed system, whereas in a closed system increase of volume is substituted by increase of angular momentum and there by there is increases of entropy.
There is representational variation between spheres and three dimensional brane in that spheres are expressional for cluster-matters contains quantum of elementary cluster-matters, whereas the brane is expressional for individual elementary cluster-matter and the lattice of interaction it has with super-cluster-matters and cluster-matter conjugations.
Elementary cluster-matter is non polar whereas the conjugated cluster-matter may be monopolar or dipolar. Observable energy-mass is information. In a conjugated cluster-matter, the coherent and incoherent cluster-matters rotate in opposite directions in synchronization, whereas the incoherent cluster-matters of that conjugated cluster-matter not have coherency with the super-cluster-matters of its coherent cluster-matters.
Velocity of rotation of a cluster-matter is not constant and varies on energy-mass transfer, but specificity may be obtainable by extrapolating with the rotations and energy-mass transfer of its super-cluster-matters.
Thanking you dear Steve.
Yours jayakar
Hello dear Jayakar .
I thank you for this explaination ,I encircle better your model .
I try to understand your transfert mass energy information.What is this information ?How a system can change its intrinsic code?,for me in the main central particle ,sphere.
If the velocities are variables thus an add from the exterior is necessary ,thus the thermodynamic is relevant .
I think what the enegy and the mass are linked of course but the proportion of mass energy ,in the quantum architecture must be balanced with its different steps .Thus we can have a transfert of mass or energy but is it possible to have both of them in the same time in the transfert ,I do not beleive.
The specific architecture implies a specific proportion where the angular moment ,the rotations ,the numbers ,the mass ,the fields and energies ,all is proportional in this architecture .I think strongly what the code is intrinsic and the cause of mass too ,thus the rotation of thes numbers of spheres .If a transfert of energy mass change the system ,it returns to its stability due to this code at the Planck scale if I can say .Thus how interpret the closed system ,the globality and thus the locality with its polarisations .
The polarity too is due to the intrinsic rotating spheres and thus the sense .The time of evolution is important for the interactions and thus the gravity and the electromagnetism .The different polarities are linked in my opinion with always the rotations and where the time in a space builds the gravity with the polarisations with electromagnetism .Thje spherical waves ,thus the gravity and its main central code polarizes the electromagnetism and increases the gravity ,thus the mass ......it is there what the rotations and the centers are relevant about the transfert of informations for the building with the code in the gravity .The senses of rot and the synchronization thus permits to encircle the evolution point of vue by compexification by weak interactions .The mass thus increases .
The number thus is important and the volumes of quantum entangled spheres too .
The informations can change the mass and the energy but very weakly ,because the time is a main piece of the gravity building .Relatively speaking we have our limits .If we want a total tyransfert ,the time ,and the ultim code at the planck scale must be changed thus impossible .We can't change this ultim equation it seems to me .
Best Regards
Stever
Dear Steve,
When two moving objects in same direction merge, the increases of momentum is proportional to the increase of energy it gains that is the energy-mass equivalency and thereby the universe is dynamic intrinsically. I think that the information is the observable energy-mass by the observer. The change of intrinsic code you express may be the conservation of energy-mass as change of entropy, am I right. Variable velocity is the speed of propagation of energy-mass in the matrix by half circling in that time flows with actions. As time is indeterministic in an event in space-time, I think energy-mass transfer is possible in an action, in that the derivatives of mass, energy and time are applicable from Planck length, if the energy-mass transferring action is representational in sphere in that quantum numbers are applicable and that may me the intrinsic code you are expressing.
The polarity of a dipolar conjugated cluster-matter may be measurable as polar potential difference in that rotational spheres of elementary cluster-matters may be representational for quantification. Though the quantum error correction in quantum measurements and the least action principle are applicable in extrapolating with super-cluster-matter hierarchy, there is long road map ahead for empirical solutions to find hidden variables for the incompleteness of quantum mechanics by Planck constant.
Thank you Steve.
Yours jayakar
Hello dear Jayakar ,
The invariances seem to me very important .All is proportional I Think in this universal specific dynamic in evolution .
I consider the informations in the main central sphere in the quantum architecture ,like a code of becoming and comportment .A kind of time code , rotations codes ,space code ,sense ,.....all that implies a system with its intrinsic informations on the line time.In this logic the numbers of superimposings and informations are incredibles .If the synchronization is a piece of the evolution thus it is important to consider the different steps in this quantum architecture towards the Planck scale .I think strongly it is impossible at this scale to change the codes ,thus the complex trotating systems .But before this scale perhaps the codes ,the rotations ,the iformations are easier to check .The transfert of energy ,or mass but separetad ,can be a changement of the rotating system in this steps of energy ,fields .
If the numbers ,quantics and cosmologics are the same ,spheres ,and if they are applicables ,thus the planck scale is 1 ,the code ,the main central sphere.
And where is our limit of perception ,thus what is the perceptible prime quantic number.If the serie of division of spheres is in the prime thus the steps of fields and energies is correlated .in this logic 1 for the main central comological or quantum sphere after division and correlated volume ,probably 2 or 3 ...5..7..11 0...thus where is the BH stars planets in this prime serie of the universal fractal .
If the rotation is the key with the spheres thus all is correlated but what is our limit of understanding and checking .Thus where are we in the universe and in our quantum world .When are we going to perceive the center thus the planck scale in the two sense ,if the prime serie is a pure physical link thus we can calculate the number of spheres and their volumes thus their possible transferts if the coherences ,invariances and constants are respected of course ,the rotation of spheres is a total sciences in my opinion .
Thanks for your extrapolations dear Jayakar ,it is relevant .
Best Regards
Steve
Thank you dear Steve,
Elementary-cluster-matters annihilate into three elementary-matters that are transformational with a coherent or incoherent cluster-matter as momentum that is energy-mass. The mass of each elementary-matter is one and their momentum is invariance in transformational as energy-mass. There by the momentum transfer is the energy-mass transfer.
I think we may have to consider some variability in the formulation of existing Planck scale in that the mass of an elementary-matter may be ascribed as equivalent to Plank length that is from string, instead of from speed of light as absolute vacuum is not possible. Mass of the three elementary-matters in an elementary-cluster-matter may be in three flavors, in that discrete mass is causal for gravity and their flavor may be their intrinsic angular momentum.
The membrane representations evolve form energy-masses, the momentum, and that of all three elementary-matters is collectively expressional as brane, that is three dimensional and representational as sphere of volume that may be the state vector, the qubit and may be the intrinsic code you are referring for. Though the energy and mass that are representational as different parameters in this qubit state vector architecture, it is transformational only as energy-mass and with this I think the universe is intrinsically dynamic and computable by gauging in U(1) from SU(3).
BH is expressional as observables of an incoherent cluster-matter by a conjugated cluster-matter as observer, at and prior to the event horizon, and I think that there is no geometric centre for our cluster-matter universe as the elementary-cluster-matters that arises from terminal-cluster-matters have de-coherency and homogeneous distributions; but may be representational as sphere in entirety, that simulate inflationary universe.
With thanks & regards
jayakar
There is an error in the last line of the previous post:
'that simulate inflationary universe'
is to be as,
'that simulate non-inflationary universe on expressional with cluster-matter strata of the universe'
Hello Dear Jayakar ,
About the center and the centers ,I think that our center of our Universe doesn't turn ,the others centers ,....Super BH ?...BH..Stars Planets moons ,are taken in a rotation around this cenetr due to the gravity .In this logic of course all centers turn ,only the universal center doesn't move probably .
The planck scale is so far of us like our center of our Universe ,it is very difficult to see this ultim architecture .Of course we suppose what at this scale ,all is interconnected like a wall between all and that between the unknew and the physicality and its specifics laws of evolution .Thus I can imagine your ideas about these "universal interconnected scale" if I can say ,in this line of reasoning thus the membrans at this scale seem all the same ,thus of course if we insert hidden variables and invariances ,that will imply these extrapolated systems .A sure thing we can extrapolate but we can't see .That says it is possible to see the universal link and its physical numbers before this scale .
Indeed the cause is intrinsic and evolutive .But if the membran is an energetic system ,thus at this scale all is maximum in this ultim energy ?
If I insert the evolution and the link mass energy ,the mass increases thus it is paradoxal about the energy at the Planck scale if the interactions and the mass is evolutive .If the maximum mass ,in our future is the maximum energy ,thus what is the evolutive link with the quantum system and its interactions .If the evolution implies a contraction ,thus the lattices and the entanglement are correlated in the two senses ,quantics and cosmologics ,thus if the mass increases thus the space decreases and the lattices increases ,and the volume is correlated .a little if in the equation E=mc² ...the time was inserted with its sequence of evolution and the increase of mass too ,if the rotating spheres are the mass thus the link can be made too .In fact the space and the light become mass thus gravity .
In this logic we see our past in the perception ,and of course all the past mass are different than our actual mass ,because the evolution is a main piece of the puzzle .
There it is interesting in my opinion about the perception of the past groups of cosmoloical spheres and the actual system turning around this center with all its centers and codes .
Dear Jayakar ,
do you make a link with the dark energy and the energy of mass .I have always thought that only the dark matter exists and thus this space becomes mass like an activation thus rotation thus mass .In this logic all spheres are in contact ,with or without mass ,I return about the evolution ,the space and light become mass in this codes of centers ,linked with this ultim universl center and the planck walls.
Best Regards
Steve
Dear Steve,
Hypothetical cluster-matter universe evolves physical universe by generations of bonded and un-bonded conjugated-cluster-matters that constructs planets, asteroids and atmosphere. Cluster-matters and super-cluster-matters of such cosmological objects constitute galaxies.
As there is no cosmological constant, the Planck length to be configured from elementary mass. As length contraction in space-time is not applicable for brane representation of elementary-cluster-matters, the hidden variables that are determinants for Planck time from this wave travel model that have different entity in wavefunction, may be considered.
Cause of rotating elementary-matters effects gravitational energy of elementary-cluster-matter, in that unitary mass-velocity flavor inter-change in SU(3) is causal for energy flux and force carrier transformation as rotational sphere of space. I think space is gravitational energy and matter with space is energy-mass in that space is collapsible, whereas mass is fundamental unit of matter.
Thereby, I think the physical structures of the universe have centers, whereas the universe not has, as it not has any shape and the observer at any point in the universe seems to be at the centre. Time reversal does not correlate with past mass of a source as the path integral in a spin matrix is not reversible as there is relative mass variability in the spin matrix by the wave travel.
In the trifurcation hierarchy of the cluster-matter universe, the other incoherent cluster-matters at different branches of the trifurcation tree that are not observable by a conjugated-cluster-matter are the dark matter and dark energy for that conjugated-cluster-matter. Super-massive BH and BH that are un-observable galaxies and cosmological objects entirely by incoherent cluster-matters of different branches in that the coherent-incoherent conjugated-cluster-mattes are entirely incoherent to the observer.
Thank you dear Steve
Yours jayakar
Hello dear Jayakar ,
It is very interesting yours ideas .
This center seems to me very important like an universal singularity .
Dear Jayakar ,
could you develop a little your words please ?
"Time reversal does not correlate with past mass of a source as the path integral in a spin matrix is not reversible as there is relative mass variability in the spin matrix by the wave travel."
Best Regards
Steve