Dear Terry,

I dont think history bears out your attitude to social behavior at all. Most of history is dominated by religion and religious conflict. People are all too ready to drop immediate practical purposes for some higher goal. Its a fundamental human need. I mentioned the pyramids and the cathedrals.

I think you are confusing necessity with human compulsion. Everything we have ever created we have been driven to by nature and necessity. If I am correct, this is the only way to the stars, and achieving the creation of the ABH technology will be a watershed for the human future. We can go on paying the bills without it, but it will get harder and harder for future generations as Earth resources progressively degrade. It is in our genes to care about the future.

Notice that you are not even able to insult quantum gravity without lapsing into religious metaphors yourself. "Selling ones soul" only has meaning in a worldview with a transcendental struggle and purpose at its core.

By the way, you catch more flies with honey.

Louis

Re your final points: It seems, once again, humour does not travel well - especially electronically. No insult was intended. I obviously misread you. My apologies. Perhaps you could loosen up just a little.

Here is not really the place for us to argue interpretations of history and sociology, but a brief response to your response.

1. RE 1st Para: I agree that most of history is dominated by conflict, but I consider it simplistic and naive to blame it on religion. People are ready for conflict anywhere anytime. Read the newspaper (or reflect on our interaction). Most conflicts stem from extremely low principled goals; not high ones like a faith in something. Mostly they are about coveting thy neighbours ox, or disagreeing with his opinion, or not liking his behaviour - especially the look on his face. Not to mention sex. The big ones are about power.

There are all kinds of belief systems. Which ones are considered religious and which one are not is subjective. My own approach is to distinguish belief systems from power structures. Sometimes they interact and are superposed in some individuals, but usually it is the Power factor that is determinant, not the Faith one.

The American Civil War was the first one in which modern technology was effectively deployed, and the scale of slaughter compared to all previous conflicts was unparalleled. What was the role of Religion in that conflict, or the major ones of the 20th Century ? They were conflicts over power structures, e.g. a Union v a Confederacy. The desire for Power over others (an OCD ?) is the hidden variable you overlook. That is something rooted in human nature, not particular religions. Even some irreligious - but power crazed - people/groups have caused the odd bit of damage in history. Using the distinction one can have a productive discussion about history. You don't use it.

2. RE 2nd Para: You missed my point, as your use of the Pyramids as an example shows. Do you think those building them enjoyed being slaves ? That example is straight out of "Brave New World", another Utopia. The USSR created lots of things (Sputniks etc.). Is that the kind of "we" you envisage ? It was a Power Structure (not a religion) in which necessity derived from compulsion. There are others equally heinous that we all know about. Your key words are "IF I am correct ..." I hope you have loosened up enough to understand the Power of "IF".

Have a nice day ! (I hope that travels well)

PS It is a good essay; but have you seen "Some like it Hot" ?. Remember the closing shot ?

Dear Louis Crane,

There is a descriptive error in my posting on, Oct. 13, 2009 @ 13:49 GMT:

'Anyhow the Screening and Antiscreening behavior in QED described by asymptotic freedom on gauge theories is the representation of micro BH in quantum level that I would like to call it as QBH', is to be as:

'Anyhow the Screening and Antiscreening behavior in QED, described from asymptotic freedom in QCD on gauge theories is the representation of micro BH in quantum level that I would like to call it as QBH'.

Regretting for the inconvenience.

Yours jayakar

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Congratulation to the winner.

Admittedly, it was the judgment of jury that made me curious. When I read only the abstract some time ago, I looked in vain for the word Spinoza. Having read the essay now, I am disappointed that Spinoza is does mention Spinoza just once and not at all for any of his may very prudent insights but for his pantheism.

Spinoza was certainly correct when he denied atomism and indivisibles in mathematics. He declared it absurd to claim that bodies are composed from areas, areas are composed from lines, and lines are composed from points.

As Spinoza objected to the act of creation, he would perhaps object to the idea of a single big bang.

I do not consider sensational and even religiously colored wild speculations genuine contributions to foundational questions. Maybe, they are nonetheless valuable because they challenge us to ask for hidden flaws in the most basic logic behind possible fallacies. My favorite focus is on the notion singularity.

If I am correct, then the function 1/(x-1), i.e. with a pole, has the value -oo for x=0.999..., which means the limit from the left to x=1, and the value +oo for x-->1 from x>1 with x in IR.

The basis for this remedy is my insight that a number dos not denote a single point and also not the unquantifiable sauce of uncountably much of rather than infinitely many points, but it denotes a measure alias two points on a line. Simply speaking numbers denote the distance between two points with respect to a given unit one. Is there really a measure exactly at x=1? No. There are two different measures, one from the left and one from the right. Buridan's donkey cannot suffer starvation if we use prudent mathematics.

Sorry for killing fireplace romantics.

Eckard

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Dear Louis,

my best congratulation for winning this Essay Context.

Cheers,

Ch.

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Dear Louis,

Congratulations on your win! Great essay, I liked the optimism!

Any chance you can cite a good reference/s which support/s the assertion, in relation to baby universe creation, that....

"the maximal analytic continuations of the standard BH solutions to Einstein's equation suggest that they do" ?

Are we talking universes or white holes?

Cheers

Roy

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Hi dear Mr Crane,

Congratulations.

You know I have thought about your essay, I have some ideas ,the volume of a sphere and the rotation and the mass are proportionals....thus to create an ABH these parameters must be checked in correlation with the universal quantic and cosmologic spheres,it is the mass the secret and its attraction ,thus with a BH all is not perceptible thus a critic point exists in this constant.

Thus all BH are in equations and thus the proportion is universal.

A BH is a sphere,it turns and has a mass which implies an non perceptibe physicality .

Steve

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You know I asked me all days what is the pure rule of these centers ,these spheres, these BH,

In my line of reasoning about spheres and the link mv, their mass and the velocity of rotation spinal are linked in a pure universal constant.Thus the velocity of rotation is in a kind of universal fractal of spheres.

In this logic the volume is important too.

If the stars produce particles due to their intrinsic system, this electromagnetism is polarised by the planetary gravity and its complexification in 3D, creating lifes ,intelligences and conscious.

Thus a sorting and a synchronization between gravity and electromagnetism becomes the main part of the puzzle on this line time.

Thus all has a rule of complementarity to create.

Thus when a star produces in a sphericality, all this production has a not utile rest, it is there it is interesting about the rule of the BH, they balance the particles and the rests, thus the space at this scale is connected with sevaral hypothesis, the centers or the center of our Universe where all turns around are relevant about a kind of tori system of re diffusion.

All spheres have a specific rule for the evolution in my humble opinion.

Best Regards

Steve

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Thus of course in this uniqueness, it doesn't exist white holes because the tori is linked with the centers, probably our stars or others.

Regards

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'Infinite curvature'? Elementary mathematics teach only a straight line can extend from infinity to infinity, not so a curves that tends to come around and therefore cn be measured.

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    no sense, no whole point of vue, no reallism thus no rational for me.

    I invite you thus to learn what is the difference between the physical finite system in evolution and the unknown behind the wall of perception.There you shall understand better the infinity I beleive in my humble opinion

    Regards

    Steve

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    Mr. Crane,

    Interesting essay, thanks!

    I was wondering, Would feeding the ABH charged particles make it easier to store/move it or is it simply better to push it around as described in the main text?

    Thanks again,

    Luis

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      To clarify my question,

      Charging the black hole is a divergent process (as the cross section of same-charge particles will decrease with the charge of the black hole); Can we charge the black whole to a point where electromagnetic fiels provide a practical* way to move this massive object?

      *For calculation purposes define as "practical" an electromagnetic force of the same order or greater than the force provided by pushing.

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      Dear Louis,

      great essay, congratulations.

      I have independently come up with quite a similar idea (maybe it was influenced by having read Lee Smolin's impressive book many years ago).

      I felt very lonely with these thoughts and was quite glad to find somebody with quite similar considerations.

      What was missing in my scenario was a reason as to why an advanced civilisation would want to create microscopic black holes.

      I would like to ask you, what you think about my solution to that problem, that I try to sketch in the following (in particular if it physically makes sense to you):

      The conjecture is that any advanced civilisation has the desire to do information processing.

      This inevitably leads to manipulations of (physical) structures on ever smaller scales.

      But there is an ultimate limit, namely the Planck scale. In a paper I found it was calculated that Moore's law can hold at best about 600 years, for then one reaches the Planck scale. (This is a time scale way shorter than the one you mention in respect to running out of energy supplies).

      The point is that if we really reach this scale with information technology, we not only would be able to manipulate the very fabric of spacetime, but we could do it in a controlled way. Thus we not only could be able to create microscopic black holes, but we could create "Designer Microscopic Black Holes", seeding information into them.

      The whole scenario appears not too far fetched to me, taking into account that large companies are already discussing to harness accelerators for generating synchrotron radiation for the production of microchips. Thus my predicting is that there might arise kind of a Moore's law in respect to the scaling up of accelerators to produce ever smaller information processing structures. (The idea of gamma-ray lasers might also make sense in this context).

      Best regard,

      Markus

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