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Dear Emmanuel,

To interpret the speed of light as a velocity is to treat what essentially is a quantum mechanical phenomenon as something which obeys the rules of classical mechanics. We can only speak about the velocity of an object with respect to something if and when it interacts with that something as it moves. (Interacting includes the energy exchange between particles by means of which they express and preserve their energy). To be able to interact, a particle must have a position to act from. In www.quantumgravity.nl in Chapter 1.2 'Mass, a quantum mechanical definition' I have defined the rest mass of a particle as being greater as its position is less indefinite, as it remains longer within the area corresponding to that indefiniteness, as the probability to find it inside a smaller area is greater. This is why I in my essay I said that the rest energy of a particle depends on its ability to express that energy as gravity, on the definiteness of its position and vice versa. The less indefinite its position is, the greater its mass is, the stronger a source of gravity it is. So if we define the 'speed of light' as that 'velocity' at which its position is completely indefinite, then it cannot express its properties at that speed, which is why it appears to have no mass or any property at all, why it cannot be accelerated, act or be acted upon. (All interactions the photon is supposed to be involved in as travels, all Feynman diagrams of all possible interactions with virtual electrons, positrons, photons, are taken care of by the particles it is transmitted between as they themselves are the product as well as the source of all such interactions.) Only in this way photons can transmit force between particles without that force being involved in intermediary interactions with particles in the environment it is supposed to travel through. This info about the environment is already present at the emitting and absorbing particles as they continuously exchange energy and objects in between affect this exchange, information which is already is accounted for in the photon energy. So if a photon doesn't interact with, exist to the objects along its path, nor the environment to the photon, then it makes no sense to speak about its velocity: there's nothing with respect to which it moves. (This is no to say that we cannot predict where/when we can intercept, detect a photon if we know the position of the source, the direction and time of its emission).

If particle A emits a photon which is absorbed by B, a transmission changing the state of both A and B, then A sees the state of B change at the time it emits the photon, whereas B sees the state of A change as it absorbs the photon. That is, unless B after absorbing the photon sends back a message to A to confirm the receipt of the photon, a thank-you-note saying that A can from now on start to see B in its new state. A gravitational field is an area of contracted spacetime: the stronger the field, the more space, distance is 'folded' within a smaller area as measured with a rule outside that field. Whereas to a massive particle penetrating the field, this 'condensed' distance unfolds, to a massless particle there exists no field, and hence no distance to its source. So whereas to a massive observer A and B are separated in spacetime so to him the emission doesn't coincide in time with its absorption, as to the photon there's no distance between A and B, its transmission is instantaneous. So though an observer measures a duration, that doesn't mean that the transmission isn't instantaneous, it only isn't instantaneous to him. Whereas to the observer a space distance is a time distance, the photon bridges this distance in no time at all, so to the photon its transmission doesn't take any time at all.

If A sees B's state change at the time it emits the photon, then a finite velocity would mean that since nothing is allowed to happen which might prevent B from absorbing that photon, time would have to stand still for as long as the photon is traveling. Anyhow, we don't know whether A wants to get rid of some energy, or B incites A to produce the photon: if there's no absolute time, no clock outside the universe, then it doesn't even make sense to ask what causally precedes what, even though we see one event to happen before the other.

''Some physicists think that time is totally relative and does not really exist.''

The ''does not really exist'' seems to refer to an imaginary observation from outside the universe, so I can agree with this as in my essay I argue that the universe as a whole has no physical reality either. A universe which creates itself without any outside intervention creates, keeps producing time itself, containing all time within.

As a Self-Creating Universe can hardly stop creating itself, it keeps creating energy, so we don't need any dark energy to explain why the universe keeps expanding unhampered by gravity. It is this continuous creation which powers any change we experience as the passing of time. Since I cannot believe in a bigbang tale which implicitly states that the universe and everything inside of it has been created by some outside intervention, to me there's no (''problem of the nature of the'') Planck epoch either. It is because we believe that particles only are the source of their fields and interactions that we need a naïve and unnecessary tale like the bigbang hypothesis.

As to the origin of the energy in the universe, I cannot think of any more important question in physics. The problem with present physics is that it implicitly assumes that the (rest) energy of particles only is the source of their interactions, as a given, and not, as I propose in my essay (topic 838), as being also the product of their interactions, which it must be if in a SCU particles have to create one another.

Regards, Anton

Dear Anton,

The exchange of a photon is the principle of the electromagnetic interaction. I don't know if you know the fantastic book "QED: The Strange Theory of Light and Matter" of Richard Feynman. It is one of my favorite books. The QED is explained very easily. But time and space are defined by the General Relativity. In the theory of relativity, you have two main ideas:

- the first one is that the speed of light is a limit for the possibility of motion for the matter (the matter being all charged or massive particles): this is the idea of the special relativity,

- the second one is that the energy models the geometry of the spacetime: this is the idea of the General Relativity.

The main problem is that the QED is a discrete theory which is not compatible with the General Relativity which is a continuous theory. It is very difficult to imagine a particle for gravitation (called a graviton) because the General Relativity is nonrenormalizable. But maybe there is no need for them to exist. If you see photons as waves, they are the basis of space and time because sapce and time come from the possibility of motion for the matter relative to the possibility of motion for photons which is the speed of light. So, space and time are defined relative to photons (not as particles but as waves). Finally, I think that all is defined relative the photons due to the wave/particle duality: space and time relative to light (photons as waves) and elementary particles with their masses relative to photons (as particles). Why? Because photons are the primordial element of the physical evolution of the universe. This is my idea.

Best regards,

Emmanuel

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Dear Emmanuel,

I truly enjoyed your paper. I think it's also fairly easy to understand that the photon is the basic entity to be associated with all energy. On the other hand to have it as the basic (exclusive) building block of matter is to somehow ignore that the fabric of space-time needs to be included. That is from the perspective of the photon neither space nor time exists and it only exists for those entities that are recognized as matter.

That's to say that only with the omission of space-time can we have a photon and only with its inclusion do we have matter. This would have me find that matter must then be somehow the physical consequence of the two, rather than a reconfiguration of the one. It is an interesting question whether a black hole is a place where space-time are reunited at the exclusion of energy or rather a place where energy is reunited at the exclusion of space-time. Interestingly enough in reading your comments I find that something like what I've said here you account for as the dawn of inflation and subsequently matter; so perhaps I have it wrong that you don't consider space-time as an essential and fundamental entity along with the one of energy (photon).

Regards,

Phil

    Hello Emmanuel,

    I find your idea of photons as being the fundamental nature of the Universe rather intriguing. Have you checked Jason Wolfe's essay, "Photon Theory"? My work does not directly deals with theories of photons, but I do show how Basic Law can be formulated using a 'prime physis quantity eta' (thought of as both 'action' as well as 'accumulation of energy').

    In my essay, I show that Planck's Law for blackbody radiation is actually an exact mathematical tautology that describes the interaction of measurement. This explains why the experimental blackbody spectrum is indistinguishable from the theoretical.

    More directly relevant to your interests, however, you will find a results I posted just days ago, "If the speed of light is constant, then light is a wave". I provide a simple mathematical proof of this proposition in my post. It's very short and easy to follow. If you should read it, I would be delighted to have your comments and support.

    Best wishes,

    Constantinos

      Dear Phil,

      Thank you for your interesting remark. In a new version of my essay available online here: http://cel.archives-ouvertes.fr/cel-00530098, I explain that photons are more primordial than fundamental. In another paper untitled "The nature of time" available online here: http://cel.archives-ouvertes.fr/cel-00511837, I have explained that time comes from the possibility of motion for matter relative to the possibility of motion for photons which is the speed of light. So, I think that the spacetime comes from the fundamental relation between matter (all charges or massive particles) and light (photons as waves). Some speculative theories explain gravitation with a particle called graviton. This particle has no mass and no charge. I think that only particle without charge and mass is the photon and I think that it is the primordial form of energy. I agree that if the Planck epoch is the primordial light epoch, the notion of time and then the notion of spacetime have no meaning. Recently, I realized that we can explain the origin of masses relative to photons if they are primordial. The same is true for inflation.

      Best regards,

      Emmanuel

      Dear Constantinos,

      I don't understand what your eta is. But I am not sure that we will find the solution to the unity of Physics in a new mathematical development. The book of the mathematician Peter Woit "Not Even Wrong: The Failure of String Theory and the Search for Unity in Physical Law" is interesting to explain the current relation between Physics and Mathematics.

      I think that the solution to the problems of masses, dilation, the beginning of the universe and more generally of the unity of Physics must come from Physics itself. I think that we need a new physical assumption coming from the subtle relation between matter and light. I think that photons are the primordial element of the physical evolution of the universe.

      Emmanuel

      Dear Emmanuel,

      You write, "I don't understand what your eta is."

      You can think of eta as being the "time-integral of energy". Hayrani Oz (Prof. Of Aerospace Engineering at Ohio State University) has used similar time-integrals of energy (what he calls enerxaction) very successful in his work for many years. Together we will be coauthoring a chapter in a Thermodynamics book coming out this July)

      You write, " But I am not sure that we will find the solution to the unity of Physics in a new mathematical development"

      I agree that going deeper into the current "rabbit's hole" of theoretical physics will not bring us closer to a 'unity of Physics' or discover 'what is' the Universe. I see all such efforts as 'metaphysical' in that these seek to answer 'what is'. And like all 'metaphysics' in the past, in my humble opinion such efforts ultimately fail.

      My approach to physics is different. Though mathematics can provide us with 'logical certainty', it cannot give us the 'truth of what is'. We can only know our 'measurements' of 'what is'. I see 'measurement' as the essence of physics. The mathematical foundations of physics, therefore, should be mathematical identities pertaining to measurement. The Pythagorean Theorem that we use to measure distance is a good example of this. Not 'mathematical models' describing 'what is'.

      In my essay I derive Planck's Law for blackbody radiation without using energy quanta. I show that this Law is actually a mathematical identity that describes the interaction of measurement. It simple gives us a mathematical way of calculating 'energy intensity' if we know the 'energy absorbed' at some given temperature. This is the reason why the experimental spectrum is indistinguishable from the theoretical.

      You write, "... the unity of Physics must come from Physics itself"

      My thinking is that what gives physics (and anything else for that matter) 'unity' is the human mind that comprehended physical experience as an integrated whole. I believe in the ancient Greek idea that "Man is the Measure of All Things". And I apply this principle to physics as well - highlighting of course, Man and Measure.

      Do check my recent post, "If the speed of light is constant, then light is a wave". It's a very simple and elegant mathematical proof of this proposition. And please support my efforts to bring these results before the panel for review!

      Best wishes,

      Constantinos

      Dear Constantinos,

      Concerning your paper "If the Speed of Light is a Constant, Then Light is a Wave", I think that there is a mistake. When you say "Dividing these by [math]\frac{\partial\eta}{\partial x}[/math]", you cannot obtain the next equation because [math]\frac{\partial^2\eta}{\partial x^2}\neq\left(\frac{\partial\eta}{\partial x}\right)^2[/math].

      Best,

      Emmanuel

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      Dear Emmanuel,

      Check the equations more closely. What you are pointing to as a mistake is not what is happening. You are overlooking the factor (partial of eta w.r.t t) on the right side . What is the correct reduction is (partial of eta w.r.t. t) / (partial of eta w.r.t. x) equals dx/dt (the velocity). The same operation also occurs in the second equation. When the two equations are combined into one through simple direct substitution, you get the wave equation!

      Please let me know if there are any other questions. I be more than happy to address these.

      All the best, and hope for your support ...

      Constantinos

      Dear Constantinos,

      OK I agree. Good luck for the contest.

      Emmanuel

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      Dear Florin,

      I have written a new version of my essay available online http://cel.archives-ouvertes.fr/cel-00530098. I tried to correct some mistakes and among them the one you pointed out by using the suggestion of Cristi Stoica. If we have enough energy then we can obtain weak and strong bosons by using pair productions in two photon collisions. But physicists want to know why we have Lie groups SU(2) for the weak force and SU(3) for the strong force. In order to have stable particles and interactions, I think that it implies symmetries. Several years ago, physicists thought that these symmetries were fundamental and they tried to unify all interactions in SU(5) but they failed due to the stability of protons. Today, there is a new attempt with the Lie group E8 with the "Exceptionally Simple Theory of Everything" of Antony Garrett Lisi. But I think that symmetries are a consequence of the need of stability and not the inverse. Today, the Grand Unified Theory seems to be difficult because the coupling constants of the tree interactions (electromagnetic weak and strong) do not converge to a single point. Concerning the masses of the elementary particles, I now think that they are defined relative to photons. The problem of the Higgs boson is that even if it explains the mass of the elementary particles (defined as a stable product of an elementary pair production in two photon collisions), there is the problem of its own mass. Moreover it does not give a definition for the elementary particles.

      Emmanuel