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Hello dear Sridattadev Kancharla,

Happy to know you.Happy also to see a pure universalist full of love.

We were we are we shall be....

Best Regards

Steve

    4 days later
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    I understand what you are going through as I feel the same way at times, but please know that serenity is just a heart beat away, right in our hearts and it is beyond good and bad. We can enjoy this state when we start to feel like new born babies, just become a pure observer of events around us, enjoying every moment.

    Thank your for reading.

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    Dear Steve,

    Thank you.

    Love,

    Sridattadev.

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    Dear Sridattadev,

    You are welcome.

    Love also,it is the future....as the present.

    Steve

    9 days later
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    Universe is continuous (analog or singularity) events, either observed or unobserved (digital or duality). There is no space unless one chooses to measure and there is no time until one chooses to count.

    21 days later
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    Kindly see my thread for a terse and ad hoc refutation of your entire thesis. and an annihilation of absolutely nothing in particular, in addition to lacking a very large point!

    phf

    Tommy Gilbertson

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      Dear sridattadev,

      Thanks for your openion on my article.Iam amazed by your indepth knowledge of Vedantha.Science,infact,moves from Effect to Cause and not vice-versa because it observes only effect and then based on its wisdom of effect it tries to interpret the cause.Then this cause itself becomes the effect and the process continues till the Last or Ultimate Cause is reached.Whether this is reachable or not is another matter but in that endeavour lies the spirit of science and,I strongly believe,spirituality of man and his wisdom.

      Today itself Iam going to read your article.Till then good bye.

      I,sincerely,wish you too success in your pursuit of wisdom.

      Thanks

      Sreenath B N.

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        Dear Sreenath,

        Thank you for reading the article. If it is true that everything came from one singularity or single source, then all paths (science, vedantha, philosophy, mathematics) should merge back at the point or singualrity to realize that truth. We may take different paths to get there, but when we get there it is the singularity or Advaitha.

        Love,

        Sridattadev.

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        Dear Tommy,

        Singualrity is absolutely nothing literally as it is neither matter nor energy but the source of them both. Please feel free to annihilate the thoughts expressed and that is the right path towards singularity, in time when all else in us is anhilated you will realize the truth, you will expereince a void of singularity and then you will be filled with love. I wish you all the best on your journey.

        Love,

        Sridattadev.

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        Dear Sreenath,

        I would like to say this about wisdom,

        Wisdom is more important than imagination and imagination is more important than knowledge, for we have to choose wisely from what we can imagine to make it reality and that becomes knowledge for the next generation.

        Art of choosing wisely is a life long endeavour which we all have to pursue.

        Love,

        Sridattadev.

        Hopefully, when you went to my thread, you realized that this is totally a joke and the opposite of my comments on your essay in my thread, which where good.

        And so, you and I will be the only two people who really understand your comment above, which is a perfect restatement of the irony therein. And thank you. I must clarify that becuase humour is absent around these parts, seems like, and gets quite misunderstood.

        Personally would much rather be an observer than particpant in these contests if the way my own thread is going is the Way of the Contest...

        I though it was about truth, no demonstrations of the mastery of Aristotle's Rhetoric!

        Thanks again for you essay.

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        Dear Tommy,

        I inside all of us is like a child who likes to be playful and as a father of 3 I can totally understand your spirit. Universe is the eternal play of singularity and everything is welcome in loving spirit. I thank you again for sharing and expressing your thoughts. All we have to do is keep playing with love in our hearts.

        Love,

        Sridattadev.

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        Dear Tommy,

        "I though it was about truth, no demonstrations of the mastery of Aristotle's Rhetoric!" I would like to say this about your comment in a good spirit of sharing.

        All who are born as humans will go through this introspection process again and again until they realize the truth. And this process will lead to thoughts and expressions which might all seem Rhetoric in the hind sight. This is similar to a new born human kid learning alphabets through a phd if he or she wills. For a teacher who has completed this learning it might not be anything new, but he continues to share the knowledge out of love. There were, there are and there will be many people who have realized this truth of love and dedicate their lives in teaching. I hope one day we can contribute to this tradition as well.

        Love,

        Sridattadev.

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        Dear Sir,

        We do not understand the purpose of your writing the essay. May be it is our ignorance. In that case, we request you to kindly remove our doubts and enlighten us.

        If there is absolutely nothing, then why do you describe so many things without clarifying with proof (and not unproven postulates or sermons) how those are nothing? How do you prove "Reality as it seems can be termed as implementation of imagination." Apparently, reality and imagination are contradictory notions. Thus your statement appears to be an oxymoron.

        If "I am the sum total of my thoughts", then what about the body and all inert objects, who apparently cannot "think". If "I is the calculator", does it calculate taking into account the body also? If so, how do you define the body and what is the mechanism of this "calculation"? Calculation is a type of programming and you are fully aware that imaginary numbers cannot be used in programming. Thus, if body is imaginary, "I" cannot calculate taking the body into account. How do you explain this?

        You say: "Thoughts travel faster than light. S=BM^2 (S-Soul, B-Body, M-Mind)." What is the Soul? How do you prove this equation? Who measured the velocity of thought?

        You say: "we are our inner most self (singularity)". What is "self"? At singularity, the known laws of physics collapse. If we are singularity, then known laws of physics should not be applicable to us. But this is contrary to observation. Kindly reconcile. If you say that our observations are faulty, then the natural question arises is your observation is also faulty. Secondly, how did you know that our observations are faulty? What is the proof (no sermon please)? We can go on and on.

        Lots of people indulge in name dropping to impress others and talk in apparently mystical languages to impress general public. This gives the land and its culture a bad name. There are many discredited self-proclaimed "God Men". Thus, kindly give a scientific reply or else refrain from maligning this sacred land and its noble culture. After all, it is a scientific forum and science demands proof not sermons.

        Regards,

        basudeba

        P.S.: Lot of people including the late Raja Ramanna invoke Adwait without knowing its fundamentals. They may personally benefit in public esteem temporarily, but ultimately perish.

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        Dear Basudeba,

        I expressed what I experienced inside of me on my journey or course of life on this planet. As a matter of fact, there are no words to describe this experience but just keep absolute silence and I am extremely sorry if I have offended you in any way on your path of realizing the truth. If it is true that the universe is created in a big bang and everything that exists came out of that one absolute moment, then it should also be true that we should all converge back at that truth. Science (physics and mathematics), philosophy, spirituality (intro spection) are just different path towards realizing that truth. As you have asked I would like to add a few more words to what I have experienced and unless one expereince this one self, one will not understand what I say.

        By absolutely nothing or singularity, I meant it is not a thing made up of matter or energy that we usually talk of in physics, I just know that it exists every where. If we just look around we can easily see that everything that seems real was an imagination a while ago. For instance the language, technology, even physics and mathematics are part of our imagination. The key word here is "implementation or materialization" of the thoughts. It is only space-time that is differentiating reality from imagination and at the moment of creation there is no delta between the two and that is singularity. When one realizes the singularity with in one self the delta ceases and one becomes the creator of reality.

        If we cannot measure something it does not mean that it does not exist. Everything has a mind and nothing is mind itself. As humans we have misunderstood the power of thought and assume that we are the only ones capaple of thinking. It is only the degree of thought that is different in us, everything living and non living has mind associated with it. As a software programmer, I can give you an anology of what I mean. If we were to create Artificial Intelligence in a simulated network and the objects could understand themselves fully they would realize that they are just memory locations with some processing power and that every other object (animate and inanimate) is similar to them at th most fundamental level which is just another memory location. It is just that the beings of AI have acquired properties and behaviour and started to distinguish themselves from the memory and other objects. That moment of realization by an Artificial Intelligent being is also like attaining singularity or enlightenment. This is all what Krishna, Moses, Jesus, Buddha, Muhammad, Shirdi Sai have realized that we are all one and the same at the fundamental level. Is'nt this what we are trying to understand in physics and mathematics? Spirituality is a science of the self.

        Physics arises out of singualrity or the common sense or I in ALL of us. It is the purpose of physics is to understand singularity and when it does it has met its goal. Physics does not break down at singularity, it just merges with it. To the question of what is "self", everything in this universe is just one self or singularity and you can expereince it only when you merge your self in this feeling. Realize that it is only "I" that exists. I or singularity or conscience holds the universe together with the gravity of love and that is why gravity seems to be a weaker force in the relativistic universe. Gravity of love is the strongest force in absolute universe.

        Thoughts travel faster than light, I or singularity thinks there will be a tomorrow and the light follows. The day I stops thinking there will be no tomorrow. Our life and death are proofs for what I had to convey.

        My intent is to only share the joy and amazement of being able to experience the truth in all of us. I am thankful to "I" in Basudeba for invoking good questions and letting us express these thoughts.

        PS: I am one of our kind, I "is" every one of all kinds.

        Love,

        Sridattadev.

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          Dear sridattadev,

          Thanks for your openion on my article.Iam amazed by your indepth knowledge of Vedantha.Science,infact,moves from Effect to Cause and not vice-versa because it observes only effect and then based on its wisdom of effect it tries to interpret the cause.Then this cause itself becomes the effect and the process continues till the Last or Ultimate Cause is reached.Whether this is reachable or not is another matter but in that endeavour lies the spirit of science and,I strongly believe,spirituality of man and his wisdom.

          Today itself Iam going to read your article.Till then good bye.

          I,sincerely,wish you too success in your pursuit of wisdom.

          Thanks

          Sreenath B N.

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            Dear All,

            I would like to elucidate on S=BM^2 as follows

            S is (Soul or Singularity or Absolutely nothing or I or Conscience or God)

            B is (Body or matter or mass or physical entity or reality)

            M is (Mind or energy or virtual entity)

            2 is (To be or not to be)

            Absolutely nothing = Everything.

            Love,

            Sridattadev.

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              Dear Sir,

              There is no question of our feelings being hurt by some Essay because we are not personally affected by that. But we are surely hurt when someone distorts the Shastras thereby giving it a bad name. And many people do just that for temporary name and fame.

              Big bang is an action. An action can take place in two ways: as a chain reaction to an initial action or induced action by a conscious agent. In our essay we have described how Uncertainty is a law of Nature only to the extent it is related to our system of measurement, but not in the same way as it is generally described by modern physics. Secondly we have shown it does not contradict causality. Thus, the initial action that led to the big bang needs an explanation. But no one is answering that question scientifically. We have a detailed mechanism for that and we will publish it soon. We derive all fundamental forces of Nature from the same initial action and describe the evolutionary process as its bye-product.

              If by 'truth' you mean the accurate description of the said mechanism that governs from the big bang to the big crunch, you are correct. Then you have not described that mechanism. But if you use the term 'satya' to describe truth (like that in 'satyameva jayate'), then you have not understood its meaning. It has been used in a composite sense (sa ti yam) here (called saanketika), which has a very important scientific meaning.

              Singularity is not the same as absolutely nothing. It only refers to a state that exists (thus not nothing), but cannot be described using the known laws of physics or as you describe it: "a thing made up of matter or energy that we usually talk of in physics". But then you contradict yourself by saying that: "I just know that it exists every where." If "absolutely nothing or singularity" "exists every where", how do you talk about "a thing made up of matter or energy"? Regarding your use of the term reality and imagination, please refer to the definition of reality and measurement in our essay. We thing you are describing "sama rasa" or "eka rasa", which is said to be a characteristic of "Brahman", as singularity. But if it is so, then that description is wrong. Nowhere the Shastras say "Jaganmithyaa".

              Perception is the result of measurement using our instruments of sensory perception. Only when this information is processed, it leads to perception. Without perception, the object does not exist for us, though it may exist for others. There is nothing like "universal non-existence". Before you say: "Everything has a mind and nothing is mind itself", you must define mind and prove your statement. We assert that it is a misleading statement. Artificial Intelligence is nothing but programming and all programming is gigo - garbage in, garbage out. Unless the programmer has the complete knowledge, he cannot design and program devices that "could understand themselves fully they would realize that they are just memory locations with some processing power and that every other object (animate and inanimate) is similar to them at the most fundamental level which is just another memory location." "Krishna, Moses, Jesus, Buddha, Muhammad, Shirdi Sai" gave the philosophy of life. But we are discussing physics.

              You have equated I with singularity without explaining how I could be the same as singularity. There is no proof to substantiate your statement that: "I or singularity thinks there will be a tomorrow and the light follows. The day I stops thinking there will be no tomorrow." But there is proof to the contrary. If I think tomorrow will never come, it will be proved wrong. You have still not given any proof that "Thoughts travel faster than light. S=BM^2 (S-Soul, B-Body, M-Mind)." You may refer to Yajurveda, which also speaks of "manaso javiya", which means faster than the mind.

              Thus, please stop meddling in science while meddling with sermons without a proper understanding of the Shastras. Otherwise it gives both the sermons and the science behind it a bad name.

              Nothing personal.

              Regards,

              basudeba

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              Dear Sir,

              Please do not invoke Vedanta without properly understanding it and then malign it directly by its wrong interpretation or indirectly by invoking it in the wrong places to show off your knowledge.

              For your kind information, Vedanta is also called Uttara Mimaamsaa. Along with Poorva Mimaamsaa, it forms a complimentary pair. The term Mimaamsaa means resolution of apparent contradictions. Poorva Mimaamsaa resolves the apparent contradictions among the various Brahmana granthas. Uttara Mimaamsaa resolves the apparent contradictions among the various Upanishads. Before invoking Vedanta, you must understand all the Upanishads with reference to the Vedas and find out the apparent contradictions. Then only you can understand Vedanta. Otherwise you will end up only in maligning it.

              Regards,

              basudeba.

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              Dear Sir,

              We have discussed your above "equation" in our earlier comments. Please give scientific proof and not sermons.

              Regards,

              basudeba.