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Frank,

It would appear that but you and ARRL have overlooked a very important point.

While light is comprised on super-positioned EM wave of various wavelength the longitudinal waves produced by spark gaps etc. are not of the same nature.

Each photon comprising the EM wave they form lines up one behind the other.

Note that even Planar 2D waves have a some minuscule Z component [else you couldn't have Pos charge on one side with Neg on the other to satisfy Lorentz co-ordinate changes]

As the photons don't super-position they they line up like quantum railway motor-carriages and create a 'rod' of co-linear momentum.

Once this 'rigid rod' of Energy momenta is established any momenta added at one end of it will 'instantaneously' cause the momenta at the other to respond - just like pushing the end of a stick.

ACTION can be transferred in either direction along this wave as the momenta are lined up bidirectionally [like little carriages or rods] but any additional EM information added to the wave (apart from the co-linear momenta noted) is forced to propagate at c along its length

LWs form the basis of Newtons 'action-at-a-distance' and the reason why Tesla's spark gap waves stung his face [but were revealed NOT to be electrons]

Of course longitudinal waves can be super-positioned but that doesn't enhance the effect (just allows it to operate over a larger surface of action at each end]

Why has this been overlooked by the Science community for so long? - the wave equations for both are identical, only their sources and E-field polarisations are different [another sad case of doing Maths without physical Models].

When the photo-electric effect was discovered they moved from Spark gaps to oscillating charged particles to produce EM waves, then Einstein's SR explanation of Electrodynamics drove the scientific community down a blind alley [again because his model of mass-ENERGY-Matter was wrong]

Longitudinal waves form the basis for electrostatic CHARGE in our Universe, and it is the separation of Charges that gives us the electromotive force for Electricity in our World.

see attached.Attachment #1: Figure_21.05__Volts_and_EMF_800x600.jpgAttachment #2: Figure_28.17__Longitudinal_Action_at_a_Distance_800x600.jpg

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Kelvin,

The ARRL Editor-in-Chief, and the two different IEEE Editors-in-Chief understood exactly what my papers were presenting, they could not get a consensus from their associate editors, their technical staff and/or those that participated in the peer review. If a paper tries to describe gravity as an EM phenomena versus the Einstein manifestation, it will be very difficult to get a consensus, and this is what editors-in-chiefs try to achieve before they publish an article. My papers have passed through a lot of hands, and I almost expect to see my material published with another person's name on it.

Your Fig_27.17, "Action at a Distance" is representing exactly the same field configuration alignment as my Fig. 4, "Cut and flattened cylindrical surface depicting two complete cycles of an electric field having longitudinal polarization" when another Fig.4 field of the same type is at 180 degrees. Make a copy of Fig. 4, cut it out and turn it 180 degrees to the original Fig. 4. The plus and minus fields from a source must be displaced laterally, just as they are in the transverse configuration. I show the plus and minus fields being displaced laterally around a cylinder.

An EM wave will consist of both plus and minus E-fields. Your Fig_27.17 is showing a single plus field at the top and a single minus field at the bottom, and the center show them coupling. Your figure will be equivalent to my Fig. 4 when you have both a plus and minus field set at the top, from one source, and then a minus and plus field set at the bottom from another source. Then you will need two field coupling lines in the center, one with plus at the left side and minus at the right side, with the second line have a minus at the left side and a plus at the right side. We are then presenting precisely the same coupling concept; you using a flat surface and mine using a cylindrical surface.

Also, in my paper, I state the instantaneous influence-at-a-distance is required for solar system distances. The influence action is fast, but it is not infinite, which is why we have spiral galaxies. The EM fields propagate at the nominal speed of light, but once the field has propagated the influence is not limited to that velocity. The coupled longitudinal fields from two sources provides a perfect match to explain Newtonian instantaneous influence-at-a-distance and providing an attractant only force.

I had used the railway carriage coupling analogy in some of my earlier papers, but decided it was too "provincial" for my formal paper submissions.

"Why has this been overlooked by the Science community for so long? - the wave equations for both are identical, only their sources and E-field polarisations are different [another sad case of doing Maths without physical Models]."

Because everyone has been taught that EM fields are propagated as transverse waves. In the second section of my paper, "Transverse Only", first sentence, I stated, "At the time Einstein formulated his gravity theory, the only EM field configuration known was where both the electric and magnetic fields were transverse to the axis of propagation."

When I first realized a helical EM field configuration would produce an attractant field to another field of the same configuration at 180 degrees, I built a helical model so I could have a three dimensional depiction of the EM fields.

I have a few other technical issues I need to discuss with you. I have read a few articles about Tesla, and I built a Tesla coil with a vacuum tube oscillator when I was in high school, in the late 1940s. I started building transmitters shortly thereafter, when I acquired my General Class Amateur Radio license in 1948.

"Once this 'rigid rod' of Energy momenta is established any momenta added at one end of it will 'instantaneously' cause the momenta at the other to respond - just like pushing the end of a stick." That statement is not quite true, it is not rigid laterally. See reference [6] in my paper. I suspect the EM gravity wave field is not rigid angularly either, and I note this in my paper.

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Oh YES, YES, YES, YES, YES

Nice to see someone else gets this as well

Understand about the editors not being able to get a consensus on this idea - that's why I did all my work on QM, QED, Chemistry and Gravitation first - so I was VERY confident about what I am saying and the illustrations were as refined as they could be given the scope of corrections I am forcing on Physics and Maths. [Tetryonics covers all the Science fields using 1 quantum of equilateral energy - hence the 60 YouTube chapters released so far]

I agree about the carriages statement I am loathe to use it myself but look at how scientists describe Lorentz contractions and it is everywhere.

Agree also about the Transverse only teachings of science these days [but even Tesla couldn't get the idea across to the scientific community] although he did manage to put Hertz into a depression and almost forced him to withdraw his thesis paper.

Your comments about Solar radiation are spot on [and as A result I'll let you know directly once I am ready to reveal my full Quantum gravitation theory to the public] Drop me you email address [mine is answers@tetryonix.com] and I'll send you a pre-publication release.

Re: Rigidity - you are correct for a single co-linear wave-train BUT if the EM field Voltage is increased in the same unit of Time [second] then there will be additional lateral wave-trains 90 degrees out of phase with each other] Voltage is just Joules [Planck quanta] per Coulomb [Charge] as measured per unit of Time. [That's why Tesla experimented with high voltage spark gaps]

Co-coincidently this phase relationship is geometrically identical to Euler's formula and it provides ta physical basis for the square root of Negative One.

Neg One is simply a nett negative charge field geometry and the square root is the linear momenta it produces. see attached

As you also suspected in your paper and noted here it is really only a matter of E field polarisation to produce Longitudinal waves[along with having a source capable of producing these waves on a continuous basis] in order for us to start utilising these waves.

That source will be revealed in my QG paper as [using Tetryonics] I now have a sound working model of how the SUN really produces its energy.

I look forward with you further on these matters.Attachment #1: Figure_26.05__Eulers_Formula_800x600.jpgAttachment #2: 1_Figure_28.08__EM_waves_800x600.jpg

Thank you for the Flyby anomaly post. Your Pioneer diagram was impressive, although I'm still befuddled by your reasoning of course. I think we *do* have a potential overlap in our ideas. I'm about to engage in calculations using the Wikipedia data on Earth flyby anomalies as a way to confirm my exotic matter hypothesis. I believe that an additional force exists on the plane of rotation of the earth which interacts witht the iron of the spacecraft due to it's centre bodied cubic geometry. I'll show you my workings just as soon as I can.

[quote]An analysis of the MESSENGER spacecraft (studying Mercury) did not reveal any significant unexpected velocity increase. This may be that MESSENGER both approached and departed Earth symmetrically about the equator (see data and proposed equation below). This may suggest that the anomaly is related to Earth's rotation.[quote]

Kind regards

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    Kelvin,

    "As you also suspected in your paper and noted here it is really only a matter of E field polarisation to produce Longitudinal waves[along with having a source capable of producing these waves on a continuous basis] in order for us to start utilising these waves."

    As I noted in my Aug. 16, 2012 @ 19:44 GMT post, some of my submissions contained application material. The IEEE and ARRL submissions had content related to communications, specifically the antenna-receiver-signal processor elements required to detect longitudinal polarized EM emissions that have EM fields with specific angular phase positions (APP).

    I have examined your web page, not completely, and am aware of the email address you just provided.

    My efforts are not quite as comprehensive as yours, first trying to wean the scientific community from their use of units of measure that have no basis in physical law: IEEE paper published with the title, "A methodology to define physical constants using mathematical constants". I have now gone public on the helical EM gravity material, and hopefully this will cause some intelligent people to revise their view on the mechanism of gravity. It is difficult to overcome 200 years of misinformation on units of measure and a century of misinformation on the mechanism of gravity.

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    Hi Alan,

    It would interesting to see if both of our ideas can bring about a clear and concise model and explanation of the quantum mechanics at work in this area of celestial mechanics.

    I understand that the intricacies of my work are a bit daunting on first impressions but you are obviously working on problems that I can model directly with my quantum theory of Gravitation.

    Not quite sure if I follow what you mean by 'centre bodied cubic geometry' but based on my definitions you would be right in saying that any model of Matter using Cartesian co-ordinates (ie c^3) would deviate mathematically from a spherical [c^4] second squared co-ordinate system - but I hasten to add that if done properly they both should yield the same force vectors on the body involved.

    The crux of Tetryonic QG is that the force of Gravitation [as historically modelled by Newton and in SR] is based on observations of the bodies concerned and not the real quantum mechanics that create the gravitational force between the bodies.

    There are convergent [attractive] force vectors and divergent [interactive] force vectors that present to us as the net Gravitational force we observe, until all of these quantum interactions are accurately modelled there will always be 'perturbations' and disagreements with respect to accepted theory.

    My work explains the quantum fields and forces responsible for 'Gravitation' but is beyond my abilities and time at present to develop a full computer model of the processes and present it.

    Tetryonic's Unified equation is all you need, but you need experience in writing the 3D CAD models for the computer along with a good overall grasp of Tetryonic theory. [remember Garbage in - Garbage out]

    Which brings me back to why I entered the competition - I am only one person with a clear, succinct answer to many of Science's questions - imagine what we can achieve when the whole World understands this geometry and starts using it.

    I have attached my definitions of Spatial co-ordinate systems (wrt Energy propagation [c]) along with an accurate 3D Tetryonic model of Iron for you - hope it helps you in some way..

    I am completing, what I hope will be, the final revision of my QG eBook as we speak and as soon as it is 'ready' I will release it and then I trust my explanations will become clearer for you and your work.Attachment #1: 2_Figure_01.03__Spatial_geometries_800x600.jpgAttachment #2: Figure_52.26__Iron_aufbau_800x600.jpg

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    Alan,

    This wikipedia quote has an additional sentence.

    "The anomaly may be due to the rotation of the Earth. This rotation induces an azimuthally symmetric gravitational field."

    Flyby Anomaly

    If you would consider that the gravity field is EM, and has a helical field structure, with Earth's particular gravitational angular phase position, a host of odd spacecraft anomalies might be explained.

    Helical Electromagnetic Gravity Field

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    Frank,

    I too struggled with the established non-rational definitions of Constants [but they had to start somewhere and they served their purpose]

    I too was tempted to re-define 'natural units' like permittivity and permeability etc. but felt that would best be done through consultation with all the stakeholders once Tetryonics was understood [there are numerous areas that need re-dressing names, units etc. in addition to the geometry of Energy].

    The constants became much easier to understand once I realised their underlying geometry. [super-positioned Energy-momenta in fields of differing strengths etc] see attached.

    Communications is an area that can quickly utilise Longitudinal waves - why wait 40 minutes to send and receive signals it Mars or anywhere else - just establish a L wave, maintain it and transfer the information as a modulation of its bi-directional linear momentum [two-way almost instantaneous communication paths].

    And this of course explains why there are no 'radio' signals being received by SETI at present - ET doesn't use slow transverse waves to communicate.

    As always, the first step in overcoming a problem is to recognise that there is one and then offering a sound concise alternative that provides answers while agreeing with the known observational data.

    But as you know having the answer and being recognised as having the answer are two entirely different things [and require dedication to the task]Attachment #1: 1_Figure_16.04__Coulombs_Constant_800x600.jpgAttachment #2: Figure_40.15__Coupling_Constants_800x600.jpg

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    Alan,

    Frank is close here but I'd like to point out that there is a real convergent gravitational force created by all Matter, as well as a divergent interactive force created by the EM field of any Matter in motion.

    EM mass & Matter must be clearly and rigorously defined (as I do throughout Tetryonics) as radiant energies and Tetrahedral standing waves respectively if a quantum theory of gravity is to be developed that can account for the motions of space craft etc. as you seek to do.

    Both the divergent and convergent forces result in the nett force we observe as gravitation.

    It is the quantum mechanics of Energy momenta that provide all the macroscopic forces we know of, and there is much more at work than only the gravitation of Matter on the cosmological scale, hence why terms like Dark Matter & Dark Energy have become popular.

    Frank,

    I believe that the rotation of the earth is important because the exact location of the closest approach of a flyby is relevant. The exotic matter distribution within the earth is irregular due it's existence being due to exotic matter comets impacting from supernovae events. It's all speculative, yes, but also reassuringly consistent. This is why the data from Wikipedia is inconclusive. I believe that a spacecraft crossing the equator at a shallow angle and low speed will give the greatest energy increase. This because it spends the greatest amount of time in earth's 'equatorial exotic band of influence'. The results don't quite reflect this due to irregularities within the innermost core as well as exotic matter comets embedded within the crust, but will be confirmed in the future with more data such as Juno imo.

    We think similarly with regard to your helical field structure, but I detail this with imagery of a self creating universe [P.S. which author spoke about SCUs? I can't find it now!] given in my last FQXi competition entry Reality Was Born Analog But Will Digital Die?

    Abraham,

    I don't mean to be rude, but my thinking is very back-to-basics and fundamental. I'm putting myself in the shoes of Newton as if he'd thought of an additional force to explain the flyby anomaly *before* reaching a conclusion on planetary motion. The combination of explaining the ice age data as well as the flyby amomalies as well as the galaxy rotation curves would have convinced him of additional *anisotropic* matter interaction on planetary scales, I'm sure. This is in addition to his ideas on ordinary matter interaction. Why not have this 'exotic matter' at the centre of planets and stars? Why does it have to be in a hypothetical'halo'?? (Ans: because science has already made the assumption of isotropy and equivalence for *all* matter, therefore it *has* to be in a halo)

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      You're on the right track but you don't have to create new exotic Matter to explain the accelerations. As you point out if Newton had been given the data he would have pointed out F=ma [so any acceleration of mass/Matter must be the result of an additional force - other than what he had already modelled]

      In fact that is what happened with Mercury, and Einstein then came along with GR and corrected for the force giving GR 8piG as opposed to Newtonian 4PiG. ie twice the acceleration for EM masses that come close to a gravitational body than what was expected by Newtonian mechanics.

      GR reduces to Newtonian gravity far away from the bodies - where the 'curvature' is weaker. But GR is based on SR and any Physicist will tell you Gravity is the only force acting between planetary bodies so what causes the additional 2pi of G-force close to Planets etc?

      Back to what GR was based on.....SR.....

      'when to impossible is removed - what remains however improbable must be true'

      All Matter not only creates a convergent [gravitational] force but also possesses interactive [divergent] forces - Black-body radiation is well established in physics and these two forces apply to all Matter [as defined in Tetryonics].

      Also of note is that Tetryonics gives us the geometry for these 'missing' fields and shows how it applies to all material bodies in the universe regardless of scale. ie it explains Mercury's perihelion, the bending of Light, galaxy rotation curves, and many other phenomena current using Dark Matter as an explanation.

      And the force it creates is strongest in the equatorial region of a gravitational body [defined wrt to its magnetic axis of course] just as you propose.

      So why do we struggle to explain this acceleration?

      Gravity to date has been mathematically modelled on the observations of the motion of large scale Matter. As the observations get better the theory must be 'adjusted' in an attempt to explain these tiny inconsistencies but I believe I am the first to present a theory from first quantum principles that coherently explains the processes at work and agrees with current observations without the need for DM halos etc.

      I am half-way through my final review of my QG illustrations and then it will be released for all to comment on.

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      Abraham, Alan,

      On a close approach to earth, or any large solar body, it is no longer a point source. There are gravity influence maps that show irregularities in the force of gravity due to material density changes. Do any of the studies of a flyby anomaly examine the flyby path in relationship to these known variations in the force of gravity?

      Many papers that are attempting to describe some spacecraft anomaly do not identify all the parameters about the spacecraft or the spacecraft/object relative dynamics.

      One of the parameters that should be identified is whether the spacecraft is or is not spin stabilized, and if spin stabilized, the angular direction of the spin and its angular rate. What is this spin direction relative to the objects rotation? Secondly, on a close encounter, is the spacecraft going in the same direction of the objects rotation or opposite to it? And as Alan pointed out, what angle did the spacecraft pass by the object relative to the objects equator? This also has implications on the force of gravity, as it will be influenced if the object has an equatorial bulge.

      Can I assume a flyby anomaly study accounts for the position of any nearby object(s), such as a moon?

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      Ah POINT particles, the bane of modern physics.

      Resulting from the mathematical modelling of force vectors of all kinds back to their origin without providing an detailed material explanation of what created the forces in the first place.

      It is given us spherical [4pi] quantum particles and other great wonders like Black holes and Singularities - Feynman best summed up the problems arising from this approach to physics in his lectures on electron QED.

      Frank, you are right to point out that the distribution of Matter [made from charged Energy geometries] in an object under investigation is important and should always be modelled as accurately as possible in order to provide a full account of all the forces present and acting on (and between) material bodies in motion [irrespective of their scale] see attached.

      As all Forces are mediated by Photons in 2D planar EM fields and Matter is a 3D charged geometry [never a point] the distribution of charges in any object in motion is extremely important (at the quantum scale upwards) if we want to give a full account of the influence of all interactive forces on any material body in motion - I believe that the true geometry of the electron was the source of inspiration for Tesla invention of the rotating synchronous converter.

      Many of the parameters you mention must be modelled if a full account of physical dynamics on any scale is to be developed - otherwise any theory we develop to explain finer and subtler inconstancies in gravitation etc will have to be corrected again as more refined measurements are made [as we have historically done].

      And that is what excites me about Tetryonics - it provides a quantum basis for ALL forces and particles and dictates a rigid geometry for the mathematical modelling of physical geometries and interactions that no other theory can provide.Attachment #1: Figure_72.06__Singularities_800x600.jpgAttachment #2: Figure_40.08__Einsteins_Error_of_perception_800x600.jpg

      Frank and Abraham,

      You've both made some very good points that I've found useful, so thank you. My jigsaw puzzle methodology has drawn me to the exotic matter hypothesis, so I intend to stay with it due to the innumerable mini-clues as to the final picture of reality. Maybe you two are both right and I'm wrong. The possiblity of exotic matter comets accessible in the earth's crust is too much to dismiss imo though. The world economy would be instantly revived. Maybe the 'philosopher's stone' of the bible is in fact exotic matter? Maybe there's more of them located at sites of Gravity & Magnetic Hills throughout the world? Worth a dedicated look imo.

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      Alan,

      There is never only one path to scientific discovery and that is what makes it exciting. Keep working on your ideas and if you need another person to bounce ideas off (or to offer their theory's point of view on a problem you have) feel free to get in touch

      The exchange of ideas is an important foundation to the development of scientific theory.

      And every idea [no matter how off-beat] has the potential to spark a revolution in how we perceive the Universe and our place in it [even equilateral energy].

      I hope the attached will help you view the quantum field geometry of the forces (as dictated by Tetryonic theory) that I described previously in my correspondence on your fly-by modelling.Attachment #1: Figure_65.04__Graviational_Field_800x600.jpgAttachment #2: Figure_69.13__The_Perihellion_of_Mercury_800x600.jpg

      ahaha insert the Riemann zeta functions ahahah don't forget the fourier series and also make the good settings and substitutions.....ANSWER finite groups for the serie of uniqueness and at ALL SCALES IN 3D.

      pi is relevant indeed....now make a beautiful sphere and play with it :)

      a tetryon and a spheron and an electron waits near a phonon, do you think that they turn ?

      3D for the respect of all universal proportions !

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      A Neutron walks into a Bar ans orders a Drink...'How much for the drink it asks?" ...for you NO CHARGE replies the barkeep.

      [in truth neutron geometries are made of 18 positive & 18 negative fascia with a net charge of 0]

      Thank you Abraham, I might take you up on that offer. I'd like you to consider the ice age data as being rather spikey swift changes in global air tempaeratures in a 100ky cycle as well as quasi-millennial cycles. See attached. Your extra force from ordinary matter doesn't fit as well with the ice age data discovery imo. The 5 Milankovitch problems are solved so that it is shown that the inclination cycle is the most likely driver. My model suggests that the shape of the global air temperature curve is steeper than would be expected with your extra quantum energy with density hypothesis. My model proposes Jupiter's irregular matter equatorial band of influence creates additionl ocean and atmospheric tides when the earth crosses in a 100kyr cycle. Jupiter's irregular matter to Earth's irregular matter interaction is estimated to at least double the current earth tidal ocean energy. My band is much narrower and steeper than your more bell-shaped curve. The evidence is in the ice age data graph attached imo. Controversial, I know.

      Another reason for these mega dense matter comets is their impact craters left behind which don't fit the regular comet impact energy. I propose that the Africa Rift valley and lakes was one such mighty impact collision event. Only exotic matter could create the Madagascan bulge which was carved into an island. I wouldn't be surprised if the Congo's world no1 copper and cobalt deposits as well as precious metals are due to this impact. The entire nuclear fusion model of the Sun's interior and "we're all made of star stuff" is most likely complete baloney! What do you say to that possiblity?!Attachment #1: IceAge_data_svg.png