Thank you Jayakar

For your nice writing. You are correct in the particle scenario. "Information is energy transfer ...... observational information by bit unit of information is probabilistic rather than realistic, the observational information of experimentations.... "

Best

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Dear Sreenath,

Hope you might have seen my perceptions on your essay.

With best regards,

Jayakar

Dear Jayakar,

Your treatment of the concept of 'information' is highly innovative and since it is based on string theory it is highly technical from the point of view of general audience. But I commend your effort to solve the problem of information paradox on the basis of string theory's mathematics and you have treated it from different perspectives like Language and Numerical systems, Feynman diagrams and string-matter continuum scenario. In Particle scenario Vs String-matter continuum, you have clearly distinguished how the information is transferred in them; it is being discrete in particle scenario and in String-matter continuum the information transfer from source to the observer is by spiral rotations of string-segment. Here I am curious to know, spiral rotations represent which spiral, is it log spiral or Archimedean spiral or some other spiral, because according to my theory of QG the spiral described in QG field is log spiral. So can you, please, clarify this point to me? In fact in the previous fqxi essay contest (2012), my subject was QG. Ultimately, in the contest between It and Bit you have naturally sided with Bit as it is to be expected. Thank you for writing a highly articulate article and I appreciate the effort you have put behind it. For this I am going to rate your essay highly.

Best of luck,

Sreenath

Thank you dear Sreenath,

I have gone through your essay on 2012 again and refreshed my perceptions with your work on QG with Torsion tensor in log-spiral.

In string-matter continuum the spring constant on wave-front is inversely proportional to the Torsion tensor of the receding string and thus the gravitation between the observer and the source is a measurable function in space. Thus your work may be well integrated on this to quantize gravity in this scenario. Hence I seek long term collaborations with you for further developments on this.

With best wishes,

Jayakar

    Thank you Dear Vladimir,

    I think I have to be more elaborative on the integration aspect that I have perceived on your work. Anyhow I may contact you latter to exchange our ideas.

    With best regards,

    Jayakar

    Dear Jayakar,

    Thanks for your comments over on my page. I am keen to explain more, as I think we can find good overlap. I've left a reply, but will elaborate early in the coming week.

    Best wishes and thanks for presenting your interesting work,

    Antony

    Dear Jayakar,

    I want to have long time collaborations with you regarding this. When ever you are free try to contact me to develop this view further.

    Thank you dear Sreenath,

    We will have discussions after some time, on this view.

    With best regards,

    Jayakar

    Dr. Jayakar,

    I thought that your essay was exceptionally well written. I do hope that you do not think me impertinent. I am a crusty old realist and as I have carefully explained in my essay BITTERS, everything in the real Universe is unique, once.

    As you know, each snowflake is unique, once, and that means that each real molecule of each real snowflake must be unique, once. The whole real Universe is unique, once.

    Which brings me to the consideration of your essay's graphics. They are not unique. They are computer generated perfect squares and perfect circle and perfect yellow lightning bolts and while they are pretty to look at, they are unusual, unrealistic, and unnecessary for explaining reality.

    I wish you well in the competition,

    Joe

      Thank you dear Joe,

      You are right, only 'continuum' is in reality that is not quantifiable, while without quantisation 'continuum' is not descriptive and emerges with digitalisation in real numbers that are unique. As the universe is continuum it is realistic rather than probabilistic.

      I would like to go through your essay and submit my perceptions soon.

      With best regards,

      Jayakar

      Dear Jayakar,

      As you indicated above, "In particle scenario, information is energy transfer; whereas in string-matter continuum of eternal universe, information is the transfer of string-matter segment with its rotational energy."

      I believe that this particle view of information is that with which you expressed agreement on my essay page. I will study your essay to try to appreciate the alternate string-matter continuum perspective.

      With best regards,

      Edwin Eugene Klingman

        I thought I'd replied here - may be the system bug again, but thanks for the link!

        Antony

        Jayakar,

        Many thanks for the attachment.

        Best wishes,

        Antony

        Most welcome dear Antony,

        Herewith some more attachment that is useful for you, to work together for further developments on this. Much pleased to have further discussions with you.

        With best regards,

        Jayakar

        Dear Sir,

        We have replied to your queries in our thread. We are going through your essay and respond before rating time is over.

        Regards,

        basudeba

          Thank you dear Basudeba Mishra,

          Expecting your comments on my essay.

          With best regards

          Jayakar

          Dear Sir,

          We wish we could have devoted sometime earlier to your essay. It opens up many strands. One example is "language as information continuum". Look at the structure of any language. For simplicity, we will take English, but the principle can be applied to any language including programming language.

          A language consists of words or its equivalents in programming language with proper rules for its combination and interpretation in different contexts. If we tale the word 'pen', when it is uttered, the sounds of the letters move away or cease to exist after reaching our eardrums - all in a sequence. Till the last letter is spoken, it could have led to any strand. Even after the last letter is spoken, it could mean variously a small enclosure in which sheep, pigs, cattle, or other domestic animals are kept, a female swan, a quill, a repair dock for submarines, etc, depending upon the context. How do we know the proper meaning? The answer is, the inertia generated by the first letter on hitting our eardrum (the wave generated by successive signals) combine with that of other letters to generate a sort of Doppler effect, which, we associate with some concept identified with some object. This leads to a superposition of the sound unified by the Doppler effect to form a word, the concept signified by the word, and the object signified by the word. This superposition is the continuum stored in our memory. We call it "sphota".

          The impulses from the various sensory apparatus are carried upwards in the dorsal column or in the anterio-lateral spinothalamic tract to the thalamus, which relays it to the cerebral cortex for its perception. At any moment, our sense organs are bombarded by a multitude of stimuli. But only one of them is given a clear channel to go up to the thalamus and then to the cerebral cortex at any instant, so that like photographic frames, we perceive one frame at an instant. With your Medical background, you are well aware of the sodium-potassium channel in our cells. Unlike the sensory apparatuses that are subject specific, this happens for all types of impulses. For this reason, when we speak, we do not breathe in or out. We have to stop in between for a breath. The agency that determines this subject neutral channel is called mind, which is powered by the heart and lungs. Thus, after the heart stops beating, mind stops its work and we cease to sense any external impulse. While mind facilitates the passage of impulse, the interpretation of the state of superposition in memory is done by the intellect. Hence even after the breath stops, the person may not be brain dead.

          Let us take "numerical system is on discrete information". Number is a property of all substances by which we differentiate between similars. If there are no similars, it is one. If there are similars, it is many. Depending upon the sequence of perceptions, many can be 2,3,4,...n. Infinity is like one - without similars. But unlike one where we clearly perceive the dimensions (perception of differentiation between the internal structural space and the external relational space), in the case of infinity, the dimensions are not fully perceptible. Thus, number system can elicit only 1 or 0 - on or off - yes-no information. The 'on's are coded (written in programming language) with 1 and the 'off's with 0. Only this way, it is discrete information.

          Similarly, you are correct that '0' denotes undetected matter rather than nonexistence. Zero here symbolizes spatio-temporal non-existence or nonexistence at here-now of something otherwise known. There are many types of nonexistence. There is prior nonexistence of an object before it is transformed from being to becoming (cause and effect). Thereafter, it exists and evolves independent of observation or otherwise. This gives rise to number sequence. There is temporary non-existence, which is related to its transformation in space or time independent of the observer. This gives rise to negative numbers through zero. There is death or decay including beta decay, which is the opposite of prior nonexistence. Annihilation of oppositely charged particles, such as electrons and positrons is another example. Then there is non-commuting nonexistence like position and momentum: a fixed position implies nonexistence of momentum with mobile coordinates and vice versa. Lastly, there is the absolute nonexistence, which means, it is impossible as per physical laws like the horns of a rabbit.

          In our thread, while replying to your post we have disputed the string theory. Actually strings only entangle particles. Without the exchange forces between particles, the string has no existence. The rest is fiction. Regarding your triangular waveform expression, you can refer to the description of what is a photon in our essay.

          Regards,

          mbasudeba@gmail.com