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Quantum space -time is just gravitoetherton granules. First of all time is to be separated from space. Time is a space point variable as dictated by atomic clock due to force of gravity. Gravity varies due non isotropic directional push by the presence of gravitons. Gravitons are flowing like arrows towards center of earth . As such the concentration get increased by a factor 1/R.R. Therefore measurement of time depends on the atomic clock which varies with its position in space. So the time measurement varies from place to place. We do not know whether Newton is correct in saying that universal time which Einstein explained relative from reference frame to reference frame. Does that mean time dilation is actually measurement dilation. So I prefer not to attach space with time as space=time. Then what do we mean by quantum space-time? Space is gravitoetherton super fluid consisting of many dark/white particles including graviton . If we `fill all space with water then quantum space may be water molecules. Space will acquire the property of water. Space may considered as total empty stage where drama of all its contents take place. Our space is dark energy which I named gravitoetherton super fluid. In earlier days, we used to call it ether also. Even now Newton is right in space and time concept. I am attaching two papers --one commented in ASTRONOMY.NET IN YEAR 2003 and another published soon after to give some ideas about our approach for a new physics.Attachment #1: 1_I_Think_Dr._Datta_Makes_A_Valid_Point_-_an_Astronomy_Net_Blackholes_Forum_Message22.htmAttachment #2: 1_New_Physics_with_Emergent_Gravity_Mechanism.pdf

    Dear Durgadas,

    One real observable Universe must consist only of one unified observable infinite physical surface that is always illuminated by infinite non-surface light. This utterly simple truth is of course completely unscientific.

    Visible surface does not contain invisible quanta. Visible surface contains no invisible space. Visible surface is not affected by invisible gravity.

    Joe Fisher, Realist

    Hello,

    Mr Fisher please we have understood.It is crazy you know to always see the same words about your infinite surface.I like you but really it is became totally ironical there Mr Fisher.Please critic the posts,blogs,forums but stop to repeat that.We are on a wonderful Platform to share, critic,improve,develop,correct the ideas,the theories, the pappers....but you you do not make it.You repeat.Please develop your ideas Mr Fisher,Explain usyour infinite light surface.Do yoy want to tell us that the infinite surface is light correlated with entropy ,so god if yoy prefer ?So in fact you tell us that we are part of this entropy without wall seperating this physicality and this entropical infinite energy ?Please explain us in détails.Regards

    Gravity is not a potential or a field . Neither it is fundamental or universal. The emergent push theory has two directional push operations. At molecular level , we see classical effect due to directional push by massive gravitons on molecules so that all molecules/objects fall equally. We know FORCE=MASS X ACCELERATION. But by a simple calculation , we can predict that M/R.R for any molecule is constant . M is mass and R is radius of any molecule. This constant gives rise to AVogadro law and possibility of chemical reaction. Now at quantum level inside proton and neutron , the graviton reacts with a mono magnetic coupling with the color charge quarks to keep them bound. We normally assume a strong nuclear force to keep the nucleus bound. But that may not be necessary as quantum gravity effects provide mono magnetic coupling. However ,the new particle found in LHC having 750 proton mass is not very much known from mono magnetic coupling and spin2. Then even a proton pulp atomic model can even be contemplated. The quantum theory of gravity is under development .

      Steve,

      This site boasts that it is dedicated to finding the truth about the real Universe. Stephen Hawking has spent his entire life attempting to find "a theory of everything." The only real visible physical component common to everything in the real Universe is infinite surface that is always illuminated by infinite non-surface light. It is time that everyone who visits this site has the decency to thank me for finding out the observable truth about the real Universe.

      Joe Fisher, Realist

      Dear Durga Das Datta,

      One real observable Universe must consist only of one unified observable infinite physical surface that is always illuminated by infinite non-surface light. This utterly simple truth is of course completely unscientific.

      No part of visible infinite surface is subject to finite invisible gravitational, or finite invisible nuclear force.

      Glad to set you straight,

      Joe Fisher, Real

      Hi Mr Fisher,

      Prof Hawking has published wonderful pappers about BH and others.He is a respected scientist.I likehis works.That said I beleive that he has forgotten an important parameter considering our entropy.It exists Inside the sciences community people thinking in God, others no.It is a personal choice.I am respecting this.That said I beleive strongly that it is not possible to ponder general équations or works without thisreal understading of what is entropy.That said these skilling scientists can ponder very relevant détails in maths and applications.Sometimes these détails are true, sometimes no.Sometimes it is deterministic , sometimes no.If Professor Hawking study a little entropy and God,he could ponder very relavant general équations.But apparently he does not want, he prefers to think about an universe without God, it is a choice simply.He is a big thinker you know Mr Fisher.

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      REALITY QUANTUM-GEOMETRODYNAMICALLY EMBEDDED

      Logic is Quantum. Quantum, logic. First order logic formulas are built by atomic formulas (see OP). Which themselves combine to form first order theories. A first order theory that is satisfiable has a model M |= T. We derive Quantum logic from this and the CTMU derives a reality that is Quantum-geometrodynamically embedded. Where spatiotemporal containment defines the location of objects within time and space. As the objects move through time and space, they take their state-recognition and state-transformation syntaxes directly from this ambient spatiotemporal background. Now, what does this have to do with first order logic? Well, if you read the very first paragraph of what I posted from the Wikipedia article, it says that Universal Algebra provides the semantics for the signature of a formal language, whereas logic provides the syntax. So we have reality being logically Quantum-geometrodynamically embedded within itself using syntax.

        Nicholas,

        Real physical presence consists only of unified infinite visible surface that is always illuminated by infinite non-surface light. Please stop writing unreal codswallop about supposedly finite invisible quanta.

        Joe Fisher, Realist

        Absolutely beautiful work here @Sean Carroll http://arxiv.org/pdf/1606.08444v1.pdf

        / http://arxiv.org/abs/1606.08444

        Now combine H-spaces with lie-algebra and n-dimensional fourier to get space-time complete with wave/particle and the reason for the observable speed-of-light.

        The isometric result will astound you as it emerges.

          The works of Garret Lisi The E8 seems interesting but of course it is just a simple mathematical tool.That said the lie algebras are interesting.Like Hopf,Clifford or others.I amasking me what could be the results about my theory of spherisation in inserting the Quantum 3D speres and the serie of volumes correlated with p adic numbers.The dimensions are always in 3D.The lie algebras are a simple 3D tool permitting a fractalisation.That said it is a good tool.But frankly don't say me that it is toe.Regards sky Leach ,fourier analysis and serie can be relevant for the oscillations and fréquences.with of course the good persiodicities and substitutings.The fourier coefficients and the euler formules can be inserted with my humble équations and the three motions of 3D sphères.Now see also The volumes and the central biggest volume and insert the primes.Trigonometry Inside the 3D sphere with the good parametrrs.Convergences must appear in logic if you resect the theorem of developments.Parseval can help.See also that it exists a bridge for gravitation and that oscillations must be relative for this gravity because it is not bosonic nor baryonic.So special relativity, standard model, electromagnetism,heat and thermo are not sufficient so we have a bridge also for the oscillations of the 3D spheres.You like my theory of spherisation Mr Sky?Regards

          You know Mr Sky,I work actually about my spherical algebras (I have invented them like I love maths :) )I search the correct formalism to formalise my theory of spherisation with quantum sphères and cosmological sphères Inside an uniqueuniversal sphere in spherisation optimisation of matter energy on an irreversible entropical Arrow of time.My équations are inserted of course.Thhe serie of uniqueness is a finite serie for the gravitational serie from the singularity.The number is the same in logic at two scales.One produces, theothers encode.But our nuclei do not encode only bosons photons ,particles of gravitational also more far towards our quantum singularities.The planck wall seems interesting to analyse like the zero absolute at 10^-35 m.The bridge is there giving the road towards our quantum BH and their volumes increasing towards the central biggest 3D sphères.The standard model is encircled by gravitation at the two scales, quant and cosmol.Regards

          Operators, theorems,algebras, subalgebras,correct serie, finite or infinite ,....Dirac, Clifford,.......all is a question of good parameters and domains.See the central sphere and my équations with the motions of sphères.The dimensions are in 3D ,its is just a fractal of our 3D from the central Sphere,the number 1.How can we converge and solve the problems of commutativity ?The operators and eigenvalues ?I study actually a work of Harvard about the geometrical algebras.It is interesting.It is always a question of good parameters and domains and axioms of choice.The computing is one thing ,the real universe and its foundamental laws an other.I will continue about this ,I like :) Regards

          The works of Hilbert and Dirac are interesting.I am asking me how I can extrapolate the bridge for this gravitation with my équations.ml² is towards entire entropy and l tends to infinity with the central BH where they are produced.I search the spherical operators and after I must prove them with the others operators and existing theorems.It is not easy in fact.Have you ideas ?Who have ideas ? All ideas arewelcome,we search the correct serie of uniquenss, quant and cosm.The number is the same for th stable gravitational serie.The cosmol serie produces in a simplistic vue and nuclei encode.Spin rotations can be imrpoved with spherical volumes and also orbital.Clifford seems interesting for this research.Cartan,Kac-Moody,Chevalley .....are all interesting Tools if the the spherical 3D volumes are inserted in differenciting spherons and photons.E=mc²+ml² and mlosV=constant.l o and s are the 3 motions of 3D sphères,it coud permit to see this gravitation encircling the standard model.See that ml² is the road towards entire entropy and l tends to infinity to this central sphere ,cosmological where spherons are produced.The 3D spherical volumes are essential it seems tome, now there is a big conclusion at all this reasoning, the photons are not the primordial quantum of E, a photon is encircled by gravitation and the heat and thermo are just a necessary tool for evolution of matter energy.The gravitation is the main chief orchestra because spherons are the main piece...The aethers are gravitational and the aether from the centra BH is the biggest ....The generalisation formalisation normalisation spherisation can be made.Regards

          You knowthe aim is not to break our laws or to insert irrational road.The real relevance is to continue the road quietly towards our singularities and corrletad fields.The gravitation is a wonderful travel towards our truths and truth.

          Yes. The goal is to create a predictive model capable of yielding insight sufficient for engineering technology based on unified predictive outcomes.

          It is interesting Mr Sky, could you tellmemore about your Tools and operators about the binar codes.Simulations and prédictions are relevant for climate or this or that.I am asking for example what could be the results if we make the composting at big global scale more the vegetal multiplication and harmonisation of ecosystems.More of course some adapted solutions for the social comportments or the enterprise comportments polluting.We must change our global system.Now of course simulations are interesting but it is well also to act on ground if I can say.Could yoy tellme more about the predictive algorytms and simulations pleae,it seems interesting.I don't know well computing, Iknow the principle with the cellular automata and binar codes with the turn on turn off and the pixels and the algorytms but in practice, I am not really good in computing.Explain me a little .Regards

          Steve and Sky,

          One real observable Universe must consist only of one unified observable infinite physical surface that is always illuminated by infinite non-surface light. This utterly simple truth is of course completely unscientific.

          Endless conjecture about invisible entities are all unrealistic.

          Joe Fisher, Realist

            It is crazy.I knew that the crazyness is the begining of the wisdom but there you are more far than me Mr Fisher.How can we have détails of your surface ?:)I am going to pray to have détails ....You you speak to God My friend :)

            Well my own model is based on python and c. I'll list some of the tools I use.

            https://www.scipy.org/

            https://www.blender.org - used for importing slices of time as matrices and rendering evolution over time for viewing... working on some custom changes in c for this

            also I use a stochastic programming model. Events are non-deterministic using probability of observation and vector named pipes.

            I use amazon AWS 'extra process' distribution for running suites of tests that require many hundreds of FlOPs. Even then I can only model some of the possible outcomes.