Digital Physics: \"Take the World From Another Point of View\" by Jonathan Khanlian

Nice essay Khanlian,

Your ideas and thinking are excellent for eg...

' By "top-down", I am referring to the notion of an agent with free-will that manipulates its environment in order to reach a desired goal. By "bottom-up", I am referring to a deterministic system that follows logic operations'

A Good idea, I am probably referring to another deterministic system which tries to achieve goals! ................................. I want you to ask you to please have a look at my essay, where ...............reproduction of Galaxies in the Universe is described. Dynamic Universe Model is another mathematical model for Universe. Its mathematics show that the movement of masses will be having a purpose or goal, Different Galaxies will be born and die (quench) etc...just have a look at my essay... "Distances, Locations, Ages and Reproduction of Galaxies in our Dynamic Universe" where UGF (Universal Gravitational force) acting on each and every mass, will create a direction and purpose of movement.....

I think intension is inherited from Universe itself to all Biological systems

For your information Dynamic Universe model is totally based on experimental results. Here in Dynamic Universe Model Space is Space and time is time in cosmology level or in any level. In the classical general relativity, space and time are convertible in to each other.

Many papers and books on Dynamic Universe Model were published by the author on unsolved problems of present day Physics, for example 'Absolute Rest frame of reference is not necessary' (1994) , 'Multiple bending of light ray can create many images for one Galaxy: in our dynamic universe', About "SITA" simulations, 'Missing mass in Galaxy is NOT required', "New mathematics tensors without Differential and Integral equations", "Information, Reality and Relics of Cosmic Microwave Background", "Dynamic Universe Model explains the Discrepancies of Very-Long-Baseline Interferometry Observations.", in 2015 'Explaining Formation of Astronomical Jets Using Dynamic Universe Model, 'Explaining Pioneer anomaly', 'Explaining Near luminal velocities in Astronomical jets', 'Observation of super luminal neutrinos', 'Process of quenching in Galaxies due to formation of hole at the center of Galaxy, as its central densemass dries up', "Dynamic Universe Model Predicts the Trajectory of New Horizons Satellite Going to Pluto" etc., are some more papers from the Dynamic Universe model. Four Books also were published. Book1 shows Dynamic Universe Model is singularity free and body to collision free, Book 2, and Book 3 are explanation of equations of Dynamic Universe model. Book 4 deals about prediction and finding of Blue shifted Galaxies in the universe.

With axioms like... No Isotropy; No Homogeneity; No Space-time continuum; Non-uniform density of matter(Universe is lumpy); No singularities; No collisions between bodies; No Blackholes; No warm holes; No Bigbang; No repulsion between distant Galaxies; Non-empty Universe; No imaginary or negative time axis; No imaginary X, Y, Z axes; No differential and Integral Equations mathematically; No General Relativity and Model does not reduce to General Relativity on any condition; No Creation of matter like Bigbang or steady-state models; No many mini Bigbangs; No Missing Mass; No Dark matter; No Dark energy; No Bigbang generated CMB detected; No Multi-verses etc.

Many predictions of Dynamic Universe Model came true, like Blue shifted Galaxies and no dark matter. Dynamic Universe Model gave many results otherwise difficult to explain

Have a look at my essay on Dynamic Universe Model and its blog also where all my books and papers are available for free downloading...

http://vaksdynamicuniversemodel.blogspot.in/

Best wishes to your essay.

For your blessings please................

=snp. gupta

Thanks - I shall try to see it. Good luck

Hi Jon,

A short, concise essay that is well-written. I share your views that things like free-will are illusions that have underlying them processes that are largely deterministic. However, there is a role for spontaneously occurring events without a cause and this when mixed with the largely deterministic processes may convey the impressions of free-will, etc.

All the best in the competition.

Regards,

Akinbo

I think I better rate your essay right away. Enjoy your vacation!

Dear Jonathan Khanlian,

This question is right

"How did physical systems that pursue the goal of reproduction arise from an abiological world?".

Your thought that

"Humans are more like information systems than physical systems. After all, our cells turn over so we aren't made of the same stuff we were just a short time ago. Our design is encoded in our DNA, and our epigenetic environment compiles ourselves into existence. From this point of view, "biological" and "a-biological" things are made of the same stuff...possibly information, but at the very least, particles. The line between an agent and its environment is blurred." is something great.

To achieve this something great, I think, there something is missed, which will occur after a unification of fundamental interactions, while discovering their exact mechanisms.

Ch.Bayarsaikhan

Hi Jon,

Hoped the vacation was super.

I liked the programming metaphor (low level languages & high level languages) combined with top down agents and bottom up minions. A possible fertile ground for emergence.

Technologically we are trying to push for this emergence .....will we get true AI or just more augmentation?

Thanks for your original essay. Do take a look at my essay (it has a short run time, no compiler required.)

Don Limuti

Dear Jonathan Khanlian,

You can down load whole book from viXra, it was my first book. Thank you for your post, on my essay....

Thank you for your post Jonathan. Dont say it is advt. I would love to see that movie. Can you please give some web address reference?

Best Wishes to your essay....

Best Regards

=snp

Jon,

Thanks for your support! It is on my queue to watch "Digital Physics" ....You do know my website is www.digitalwavetheory.com....This could be interesting!

One of your key words is augmentation.....Perchance are you acquainted with Doug Engelbart?

Will give you a review of video,

Don Limuti

Dear Sirs!

Physics of Descartes, which existed prior to the physics of Newton returned as the New Cartesian Physic and promises to be a theory of everything. To tell you this good news I use spam.

New Cartesian Physic based on the identity of space and matter. It showed that the formula of mass-energy equivalence comes from the pressure of the Universe, the flow of force which on the corpuscle is equal to the product of Planck's constant to the speed of light.

New Cartesian Physic has great potential for understanding the world. To show it, I ventured to give "materialistic explanations of the paranormal and supernatural" is the title of my essay.

Visit my essay, you will find there the New Cartesian Physic and make a short entry: "I believe that space is a matter" I will answer you in return. Can put me 1.

Sincerely,

Dizhechko Boris

Jon,

What a treat: The Mother of all Demos youtube was awesome! A better title would be The Demo that Started it All.

Even more awesome was the eulogy given by Ted Nelson (inventor of hypertext) for Doug Engelbart: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMjPqr1s-cg

I worked for Doug for a year or two after that 1968 Demo ......He was the real deal!

Doug at SRI was loggerheads with John Mccarthy at Stanford, Augmentation vs. AI .... No contest in my humble opinion. Anytime I hear the term AI bantered around, I know it is BS, augmentation is king!

Thanks very much,

Don Limuti

PS: The YouTube of the cat breathing fire was very good. I was able to find the Trailer for Digital Physics but could not find the movie. Could you send the URL?

Jon,

I only now read your essay and would say that I mostly agree with your points. If I'm interpreting it correctly, it sounds like you have a fairly physicalistic/naturalistic (everything that exists is physical) point of view? That's my viewpoint, so maybe i'm reading my views into yours. Saying that there are things like consciousness, laws of quantum physics/logic, mathematical constructs, or other non-physical things that no one can see except in our minds is similar to saying God created everything. It's possible, but is more a matter of faith than science because it can't be seen or tested by others. When you said that humans are more like information systems than physical systems, my view on that is that "information" seems to be one of those things like the laws of physics or mathematical constructs. Physicists say the universe may be based on it; but what is it? To me, information is just a description in a mind of the properties, processes/interactions and relationships of physical things. It exists in the mind but is not fundamental. For humans, it's a process that physical things go through that leads to their self-replication and that allows new molecules to fit into the existing template of the old molecules.

I tried clicking on the Digital physics image at the bottom of your essay but it didn't lead anywhere. Was it supposed to? But, if by digital physics, you mean that the universe may be a cellular automata-like thing based on a few very simple rules, I totally agree. Back around 2000, I was more active in a google group about digital physics, but haven't been there in a long time.

For my answer to the issue at the end about "Why is there something rather than nothing?", I've got more at

https://sites.google.com/site/whydoesanythingexist/

In response to the last question about Kolmogorov complexity, I had to look that up, but now that I know what it is, I think it's extremely low in that the entire universe may come from the presence of a single existent entity that has a couple of properties. My reason for why that entity may exist in the first place is at the above link. Using the properties of that entity to build a very simple and crude cellular automata-like model of the universe is at:

https://sites.google.com/site/ralphthewebsite/filecabinet/why-is-there-something-rather-than-nothing

in the section called Use of the Proposed Solution to Build a Model of the Universe. This second website is just a longer, more philosophical jargon-filled version of the first site but also contains the possible model.

I'm going to try and find your video and other writings by googling because I think this essay is well written and insightful. Thanks!

Roger