Fundamental Waves and the Reunification of Physics by Alan M. Kadin

Hi Alan,

I am with you on your neoclassical approach in general, and with the sentiment that physics is in need of renewal. I find it very interesting that you reproduce the radial dimensional variability of general relativity. The first order variability with gravitational potential that you present for the speed of light forms the basis of the Shapiro experiment. The speed of light in general relativity is only constant far away from a gravitational field.

An added complication in the variability with gravitational potential is that transverse displacement is handled differently from radial displacement. The speed of light is (1+2phi)c radially, but (1+phi)c transversely. This difference in velocity arises from the supposed length contraction due to gravity which only occurs radially, leaving the transverse length unaltered. For example, mass is (1-3phi)m radially, but becomes (1-phi)m transversely.

There is a table of radial and transverse dimensional variability in my essay. I used this table to argue that radial length contraction is a concept not actually required because there is an equivalent neoclassical relativistic formulation of gravitational potential energy. Interpretation as length contraction is part of the formalism of general relativity, but it turns out not to be the only viewpoint.

If I am not over-simplifying, your point that QM ought to be about making solitons out of waves is well taken. In Quantum Theory (1951), Bohm mentions an interesting wave packet that "does not change its shape in time" "because of a peculiarity of the harmonic oscillator wave functions that is not duplicated in any other system." The wave packet does change in time, but it does so periodically,

Bohm goes on to say that "The particular wave packet that we have chosen is unusual, in that it has the same wave function as does the lowest state of the oscillator, except that its center has been displaced ..." These quotes are from Chapt.13 on The Harmonic Oscillator, Sec.15 Wave Packets, p.306-308 in the Dover paperback edition.

So it is possible to have something like a soliton wave packet, but only for the lowest state of a quantum harmonic oscillator. For the cosmological case that I consider, this implies that matter (or at least light) in the form of a wave packet of these solitons would be made from a superposition of waves with energy at the zero-point.

Cheers,

Colin

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Thanks for commenting on my essay.

I agree the edifice of quantum foundations will fall. I think my diffraction experiment may contribute to that.

However, I suggest the "entanglement" can be viewed in a classical setting. All we need is for gravity waves to travel much faster than light. Photons need not be the only signal mechanism. So, entanglement can continue after the quantum edifice collapses.

Hi dear Alan

I have read your attractive essay and find there whole group of very unusual things (that can bring many of advanced theorists even to heart attack!)

You say:

1.There is not space-time!

2.Electron should be a rotating vector field!

3.I have argued that quantum mechanics has been profoundly misunderstood since the beginning, and that a premature mathematical formalism prevented the proper development of the physical foundations. Quantum mechanics is a successful theory in the same way that epicycles were successful - it provides an accurate description based on complex ad-hoc rules, but something is seriously missing.

4.There are no point particles at all!

5.Why has a waves-only interpretation of quantum mechanics never been seriously considered? The reason seems to be that although a linear wave packet may briefly act as a particle, it would quickly spread out, losing its integrity as a single particle. But as pointed out above, a nonlinear wave equation can generate solitons with stable particle-like properties. Quantum mechanics should be viewed not as a general theory of nature, but rather as a mechanism to generate discrete particle behavior from continuous fundamental waves!

So, I can say only that I will signing under all of these assertions because I am sure on the rightness all of these points. You call something as "solitons" and I call the same things as "stable localized wave-vortex" and here only some difference, which principally is not so essential in my view. Thus, I am just happy to find one like-minded person who able resolutely presented his waypoint and results, against of aggressive majority. You say:

6.The question of quantum entanglement is still open

On this I can say only thank you, because long time I just did not understand where is the division of facts and assumptions on this matter? In the other words - where I need to put this entanglement?

Thus, Issued from above said I just oblige to support you - as much as it is possible!

Now Let me just to invite your attention on this two important points (that, I think, can be some useful for your productive work)

a). The one of corner-stone of QM - the Heisenberg's uncertainty actually becomes the same as the classical "wave beating" (i.e. it becomes causal-determinate phenomenon!)

b). The unknown - unexplained yet and most important the coupling constant (a=1/137) are the independent numeric constant (as Pi = 3.14) that derives from wave-dynamical properties (that contains in our handbooks!) This is most important thing, - if we will able to understand where from arises alpha, then we will get the main key to understand almost everything! Check my works please from mentioned link in the bottom of my essay (not right now, but in any good time for you, I really believe that you can find there something useful for your future works)

It remains me to good luck you in this contest!

Best Regards

Hi Alan,

I wanted to take a moment to reassure you that I am not taken in by the prevailing consensus, and that I am in accord with you on a good many things. Your title and abstract made me immediately place your essay in my reading bin, but there was a queue already when it was added. Seeing your comments to Bill McHarris suggests you and I share an appreciation for nonlinear phenomena that is nontrivial. But your comments on my essay suggest you read it only superficially, or you would know I am a champion of some of the same ideas Bill talks about.

But perhaps I did not communicate myself well enough, or you were fooled by the window dressing. I deliberately cast my descriptions in terms that conform to the norm of Physics terminology, because I'm talking about controversial stuff. But I did use caveats like "the description preferred by physicists is..." to delineate that I was not necessarily in agreement. In my talk at FFP15; I was careful to speak about black holes as idealized examples, and I did cite caveats and provide counterexamples, but showed they also support the metaphor of gravitation by condensation.

So I do care about why there is gravity, as well as if it is fundamental. And I thought I did talk a fair amount about that question in my essay, but I guess not as clearly as you would have liked. You should look at my slides 38 and 39, especially. I hope to get to your essay soon, but I wanted to inform you that we are entirely in agreement on some issues, even if my essay's tone does not reflect that. I am familiar with the work of Chapline and Laughlin, Mazur and Mottola, and others in that crowd. I've corresponded with Abhas Mitra, and I still have some correspondence with Stan Robertson.

Those investigations are not erased by the fact I heard so many lectures on black holes at GR21.

All the Best,

Jonathan

Dear Alan,

On one hand, being a classic relativist, I disagree with the main claims of your Essay. On the other hand, your Essay has been a pleasant reading for me. In particular, I appreciate your attempt to connect quantum waves with gravity. Hence, you deserves a good score.

I have a crucial question: 1) How can you reconcile your framework with Einstein equivalence principle, which has today an unchallengeable empiric evidence, and with the recent detections of gravitational waves?

Maybe you could be interested in my Essay, where I discuss an opposite approach to the fundamental physics with... Albert Einstein!

Good luck in the Contest.

Cheers, Ch.

Dear Dr Kadin,

I enjoyed reading your very different take on quantum mechanics, though I hope you will tolerate that my view on entanglement is almost the diametric opposite of the one in your essay. That is, for more reasons than I can get into here, I am strongly inclined to view locality as the concept that is a bit of an illusion, one that is created and imposed on otherwise near-infinite entanglement by the emergence of space and time. I tend to view the kind of entanglement used in quantum encryption devices (vs far less real computing devices) as just a remnant of that not-quite-perfect, locality-generating suppression of the default of entanglement.

But that aside, your essay contains a number of interesting thoughts. As an input for how to look at those ideas more closely, I hope you don't mind if I suggest a few directions in which you or others might want to explore to help move forwards towards that more specific set of equations that you propose is possible:

(1) Entanglement. Examine the properties of existing, off-the-shelf, entanglement-based quantum encryption devices such as those sold by ID Quantique. This is a very real and frankly pretty brutal market, not at all like the soft "let's play some" market for quantum computing devices. It would be interesting to play your framework against such devices to look for other ways to interpret their success in using photon entanglement as the basis for marketable products.

(2) Full fundamental fermion zoo. If waves are everything, then quarks and neutrinos also need explanation. The additional structure of such entities might help in the quest you mentioned to find a broader set of equations.

(3) Recreating GR predictive power. The actual astrophysics predictive power of GR has been pretty impressive, with gravitational rings and imaging being perhaps one of the most interesting areas of GR-inspired astrophysics. That set of potential equations would I think need to address how very much like space curvature could create such observed effects.

(4) Clarifying waves vs superposed states. Since every wave is through its Fourier transform a superposition of other sinusoidal wave states, some clarification of what you mean might help there. One can of course simply define a stationary (stable resonating) state as the only entity that is important, but that does not preclude the reinterpretation of it as a Fourier (or simpler) composition of other wave states. Doing so can be very handy at times. So, just a thought: Clarifying the terminology and intent there might be helpful.

Again, thanks for an interesting mix of ideas that made (and make) me think, even if in cases such as for entanglement our default assumptions are so very different. I hope you will continue to sharpen your ideas by picking tough targets to hit them against and so further refine and expand on them.

Sincerely,

Terry Bollinger

(Essay https://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/3099)

Where do I start?

I like this essay, but you have written a paper it is extremely hard for me to grade Alan. Your theory is an unfinished work of art. I agree with your core premise, and I've explored that somewhat, but I warn you there are other other notions further up the chain. Waves are indeed more fundamental than particles, however. And I tend to agree that QM as it it generally applied contains major fallacies. I put Hilbert space in the category of invented Maths, rather than the fundamental kind, because it was devised for a purpose. It is a hypercubic projection into discrete measure spaces, and nature prefers spheres.

If one constructs spheres of increasingly higher dimension, the volume then the surface area reach a maximum and decrease thereafter, while hypercubic expansions go on forever. An illusion therefore arises in QM, when the Hilbert space formulation is incorrectly applied, or is assumed to be a universal generalization. John Klauder is among the few who does it correctly, while Sean Carroll and Ashmeet Singh appear to use the framework inaptly, or abuse the generalization, in my opinion. I've never believed in point-particles, and I like the idea that space is defined by wave expansion.

I have written since my very 1st FQXi essay that the property of waves is to be spread out or extended in space and time, and to move or propagate. This also was in my FFP10 presentation, in Perth back in 2009. While it is a particle-like property to be localized, waves are inherently non-local by virtue of being spread out or extended. Do you agree? At the very least; I see it as a space defining property. But I attach a paper by H.D. Zeh which also claims that waves are more fundamental than physical reality - from a more conventional framework. I have more to say, but I hope you enjoy the prior comments and paper.

I'll have to read again, before I rate this.

All the Best,

JonathanAttachment #1: 2_no-quantum-jumps.pdf

Dear Alan,

Thanks for clarifying.

Your point of view on quantum mechanics is interesting.

You tell

"Gravitational waves would follow from any relativistic field theory - the LIGO observation does not have the precision to select between alternatives."

This is perhaps the research field where I have the major experience, give a look to this paper. Here is also my last contribution which has been published just last week.

Cheers, Ch.

Thank you Alan.

You may find interesting some of the papers by Laszlo Kish at Texas A&M and his colleagues. He is among those who explores how some of the subtleties of nonlinear EM encountered in antenna or waveguide design and elsewhere aptly explain much of what has been regarded as exclusively quantum effects. But of course; arXiv relegates all his papers to gen-ph even if they later get published in respected QM journals. Nor is he the only established researcher to encounter active resistance for pursuing ideas like this.

But knowledge today is organized in information silos with thick walls. So when people exploring quantum thermodynamics saw the appearance of extra degrees of freedom, they labeled it as something completely new and exciting. But as J. Miguel Rubi pointed out in Scientific American back in '08 or '09, this is a consequence of Onsager reciprocity that has become fairly well-known in studies of non-equilibrium entropy in the mesoscale. There too; we see that linked variables like position and momentum become independent ones.

So what is new depends greatly on the context in which we find it.

All the Best,

Jonathan

Regarding entanglement...

I agree the jury is out, on several issues relating to non-local effects and how they are explained. In a universe where only waves are real, there are no independent particles to become entangled, but non-local effects are automatic. So I understand that this negates the need to describe things that way, and calls into question some of the conclusions drawn regarding the power of quantum computing. If the things I discussed with Tevian Dray at GR21 hold water, it is not quantumness that is being observed, but the transition to non-commutative and non-associative geometries as the distance scale becomes shorter than the well-defined boundaries of structure. GR is strictly defined only down to about 10^-12 cm. So we have a lot to learn!

All the Best,

Jonathan

Dear Alan

I agree with you: there is no spacetime. The new concept of Space and Time explains quantum entanglement (see my essay "Fundamental entities in Physics" ).

Regards,

Ilgaitis

Alan,

I'm sorry not to share your optimism that the Quantum Computing bug will be squashed anytime soon. There is too great a level of hubris to let that happen. What I expect to happen is that 5G being as physically small as an electronic junction can be made and still be an electronic junction, and thus be the terminal moraine of Moore's Law, the global economic dependence on ever more computing power at no greater cost will result in Quantum interpretations of converging continuous functions claiming success as the "Quantum State" made real. In reality it won't be, but greed makes people stupid. jrc

Alan Kadin,

A question about the concept - spin.

Waves in EM radiation must be seen as coils in 3 dimensions with the altitude circling continuously during beam flow. A picture example of the beam is the spring in a pen. Now consider bending the spring. At some point adjacent coils will touch. The particles making up the coil are moving in opposite directions to each other at contact point. This contact has specific identity and a location unlike the rest of the beam which is just flow. Call this contact ½ spin.

The example coil is of solid metal. Change that to sub-atomic particles. Now we can bend the spring further so adjacent coils intersect - cross each other. At the intersect adjacent particle flows are up to 90 degree different in direction. Subsequently each crossing has to be undone/reversed elsewhere by the two coils. Call that spin-1. Additional intersections are possible within one coil pair. The intersections remain in place and begin the formation of matter. The intersections may be electrons. The total spin assigned is the number of crossings and touches by the two adjacent coils.

Does this make any sense to you?

Regards

Paul Schroeder