First Things First: The Physics of Causality

Steve Dufourny

The creationists like the extremists religious are dangerous for the humanity,they teach to innocent persons false truths and it is not acceptable simply.Make sciences here or stop your posts without real relevances and meanings,it is a fact.

Georgina Woodward

Re."To explain why time only flows in one direction, physicists often invoke the one law without a rewind button: the second law of thermodynamics."(from the article.) The problem within classical mechanics of time reversibility is use of Newtonian time;"stretching from eternity to eternity" Sir Issac Newton. Not only does it permit time reversibility but temporal paradoxes. The problem within Relativity of time reversibility and temporal paradoxes is using space-time, the space of seen things as if it is enduring space-time of existing beable things. Instead existence, independent of observation, should be considered uni-temporal, the same and only time everywhere. Parts of existence are not at different times. There is no time reversibility as to go in reverse the entire change of configuration of existence would have to be stopped and put in reverse.

Joe Fisher

Today's Closer To Truth Facebook page contained this peculiar piece of supposedly finite information:

"How do you know what you know about divine beings? How do you know God exists? How do you know God doesn't exist? Nancey Murphy, philosopher and theologian at Fuller Theological Seminary, provides a Christian and academic perspective on theological epistemology." Watch the full series: http://bit.ly/2CsGbv4

I have posted this sensible comment at the website and on the FQXi.org Community Board and on my own Facebook page:

When the finite question: How do you know (an invisible) God exists?" was submitted to the finite Google Search Engine, it elicited: "About 120,000,000 (supposedly finite) results (0.55 (finite) seconds)" When the finite question: "How do you know (an invisible) God doesn't exist?" was entered into the finite Google Search Engine, it yielded: "About 138,000,000 (supposedly finite) results (0.80 (finite) seconds)" But Nature could have provided only one INFINITE visible reality. There has only ever been, and there will only ever continue to be one unified INFINITE visible surface eternally occurring in one INFINITE dimension that am always mostly illuminated by one INFINITE sort of finite non-surface light.

Joe Fisher, Fearless Realist

Georgina Woodward

BY "seen things" I mean observation products ( with the appearance of material things) generated by the observer. Which could be an organism or a device or technological system or sensitive material.

Existence being uni-temporal, the pattern remains simultaneous whether the entropy of its constituent parts is increasing or decreasing. It is only the spatial arrangement of the configuration of existence that is altering. Erosion and deposition of silt can be happening simultaneously in different parts of the same river The engine cylinder of one car on a road can be compressing while another cylinder in another car is simultaneously being driven to expand because of the explosive combustion of the petrol within. Only what is, is materially real. Former material configurations different to the pattern at uni-temporal now have been superseded, so don't exist.

Georgina Woodward

Uni-temporal configuration of the entirety of existence, continually changing provides 'uni-directional' sequential foundational time. Each different configuration of the entirety of existence is a different time. There being no material past prevents Grandfather type paradox. EMr emitted or reflected from material objects, received by an observer, provides information used to form new and unique observation products. Signal transmission delay due to the non infinite speed of light allows the phenomenon of non simultaneity of observed events as seen by different observers at different locations and uni-temporal Nows. Cause and effect is happening to material reality across the sequence of uni-temporal Nows (the configurations of the entirety of material reality). However, the seen order of events depends upon the order of EMr signal receipt.

Georgina Woodward

Maybe I should mention the experience of reality that is not just vision but the product of processing inputs to the various sense organs. The order of experience of the various sensations depends upon the order of processing of the inputs received, which is most strongly correlated with order of receipt. Brains have some control over the processing which can be temporally adjusted, such has to give synchronicity of visual and auditory information; (David Eagleman has done research into this.) Or the stimulus might not be processed into conscious experience if the subconscious mind considers it unimportant to the organism, or less important than other stimuli. The order can vary between individuals as order of receipt of the stimuli depends upon proximity to the sources. This is different from the immutable temporal order of material happenings.

Joe Fisher

Today's Closer To Truth Facebook page contained this peculiar piece of supposedly finite information:

"Robert Audi, Professor of Philosophy at the University of Notre Dame, shares his thoughts on religious epistemology, or the theory of knowledge of religion and theology. Is God possible? What tools are available to us to understand if there is a divine creator?

Watch the full series: http://bit.ly/2CsGbv4"

I have posted this sensible comment at the website and on the FQXi.org Community Board and on my own Facebook page:

After the finite question: "What tools are available to us to (invisibly) understand if there is a(n invisible) divine creator?" was entered into the finite Google Search Engine, it elicited: "About 13,000,000 (supposedly finite) results (0.77 (finite) seconds) But all living creatures only have eyes to see visible realty. The only true fact every credentialed physicist has ever proven was that the real planet Earth and all real matter had a real visible surface for millions of years before any of those 13 million humans appeared on the surface of the Earth and began publishing their unnatural silly parroted finite guesswork concerning an invisible white male god. There has only ever been, and there will only ever continue to be one unified INFINITE visible surface eternally occurring in one INFINITE dimension that am always mostly illuminated by one INFINITE form of finite non-surface light.

Joe Fisher, Realist

Steve Dufourny

Georgina writes interesting things ,so don t pollute please her posts with your ironical repetition of crazyness, it Begins to be irritating there , you don t develop and are not relevant, really Joe you are crazy you know in repeating like that the same post Always and Always like if it was important,no it is not important, so respect the bloggers and persons who speak here .Change a Little bit your posts ,it could be well because there it is totally crazy really.I don t know what is your problem lol but it is a serious one you know, lol I don t want to be rude but you are odd my friend

Georgina Woodward

Also relevant to the question of cause and effect is aging. Aging is correlated with foundational passage of time (sequential change in the configuration of all existing.) It is not caused by passage of time but by accumulation of deleterious changes to the configuration of the material, device, machine or organism. That accumulation is not inevitable. Devices, machines and organisms can be maintained and restored. Organisms have a number of repair systems. Biological age reflects the function of the organism, which relies on the material structure from cell components up to whole organism scale. It does not correspond exactly to chronological age. Foundational passage of time is the same whether repair, restoration or rejuvenation is happening or corrosion, material damage, errors to DNA or other deleterious change is happening.

Georgina Woodward

I am showing that entropy is not dictating the direction of time, whether increasing or decreasing it is change happening within the entire configuration of existence. Change to that configuration is foundational uni-temporal (same time everywhere), uni-'directional', passage of time.

Jason Wolfe

IMO, the physics community is looking at the "arrow of time" completely wrong. It's the basic problem that mathematics has no physical reality until something is available that acts like mathematics, something that has is the evolution of time, and has physics constants attached to it, making it physically real. I feel like I should give the atheist physicists a pat on the back. You did your best. You did your level best, as a community, to try to prove that reality could stand on math alone. Your hard-work and brilliant skills were phenomenal. but you failed. You proved that reality cannot stand on mathematics alone. Something else is needed. Something or someone that can work out the physics constants, and then set up a dynamical system that creates the big bang, gravity, everything. You all should shift your focus, from trying to describe the mathematics of EVERYTHING, to trying to understand a system that creates spacetime and other fields.

Joe Fisher

Dear Georgina, Steve and Jason,

All written information am supposedly finite, and consists of millions of bits of symbolic alphabetical and numerical combinations supposedly about visible and invisible phenomena understandable only by humans for a finite duration. But the one visible reality ETERNALLY provided by Nature am INFINITE and understandable by all creatures forever.

Joe Fisher, Extraordinarily Gifted Realist

Georgina Woodward

Jason, have you read my preceding posts?

Joe, your post has nothing to do with the blog or my argument set out in the preceding posts. You capitalize eternally and infinite, shouting their importance, but there is no way to prove that it is so.

Georgina Woodward

Aging Is Reversible--at Least in Human Cells and Live Mice. Changes to gene activity that occur with age can be turned back, a new study shows

Georgina Woodward

YouTube video: [link:www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eu0GksWf5pI]David Sinclair - Cracking & reversing the aging clock - Science Unlimited 2019[link]

Georgina Woodward

YouTube video: David Sinclair - Cracking & reversing the aging clock - Science Unlimited 2019

Georgina Woodward

Old mice can be rejuvenated, without time reversal. Age as measured by several biological markers can be reversed while chronological age continues to increase. Chronological age is correlated with biological age. However, it is not clock time that determines biological age but effects upon material structure, affecting function. Passage of time continues whether a mouse is aging or growing younger.

Jason Wolfe

Hi Georgina,

It would be amazing if science could crack the code on physical immortality for humans.

Jason

Jason Wolfe

Does anybody here think that the big bang is scientific proof that an anti-entropy force exists?

Jason Wolfe

Hi Joe,

Is a belief in God justified? The very best that science can say is that (1) our universe is too fine tuned to be an accident, 1 part in 10^10^128 is identically zero. A universe that is fine tuned for stable chemistry is impossible by accident. Second, science cannot explain how a prokaryote can form, how life can start "by accident"; that is impossible as well. Third, science cannot explain consciousness, cannot duplicate it, and has a very terrible understanding of human nature when compared to how the Bible describes human nature.

Jason

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