Dear Eckard,
VISIBLE reality am not a theory. NATURAL VISIBLE REALITY am the only fact.
Joe Fisher, Realist
Dear Eckard,
VISIBLE reality am not a theory. NATURAL VISIBLE REALITY am the only fact.
Joe Fisher, Realist
Hi Eckard,Joe,
Well Joe you continue in telling us the same ironical conclusion. Please explain your conclusion because we understand Nothing. With your visible surface and am and this and that.What is the origin of your concclusion,philosophical,mathematical,physical.Please stop your non sense and explain because it's Simply stupid there ,really.It's for you that I say this me,you are odd Joe really and Don't answer,steve visible reality am the only fact,explain....
LOL imagine Joe is I repeat Always am sphere an infinite spherical am reality ? you Don't find this odd you? am sphere visible spherical reality the only fact insn't it? lol me I want well but it's irritating and frustrating there
Joe,
The Latin word facere means "do". Factum est means something has been done. As in the case of "nature" the early thinking of people had the same roots as had religions: guesswork based on generalization of how they experienced their life. Of course, they concluded it was someone (God) who did make reality and nature.
Perhaps we may accept an accurate historical description of past events as facts. However, there is definitely no corresponding history of future facts. Future family trees are obviously not yet real, not even for putative "realists" like you.
Eckard Blumschein
Hi Joe,
Thanks,you develop a little bit,it's better but you can still make better in inserting physics and maths.
Regards
Joe, There are many Joes but perhaps only one Touba city where people live who are similar to you in that they are fanatic believers. I tried to humbly apply my admittedly very limited knowledge of Latin as to understand pre-ancient thoughts. Of course, nature is also a prestigeous scientific journal. However the primary meaning is easily very understandable to everybody who is open minded. I already also mentioned the word fact. Agency goes back to agere, etc. All such roots in various old languages indicate naive attributions and generalizations. Look at the German word TATsache (=fact). While Thursday refers to the God father Thor, Donnerstag refers to the man (God) Donar who was believed to cause loud thunder (Donner) with a hammer.
Eckard Blumschein
Joe,
Academia right now made me aware of "Cantor on Infinity in Nature, Number, and the Divine Mind" 3,003 Views, Paper Rank 2.1, by Anne Newstead (University of Oxford Alumnus). Her favorite philosophers are Aristotle and Spinoza who is known for his utterance "Deus sive natura". Could you please reveal to us what you do understand by finite, infinite, eternal, etc.?
Incidentally, In Sean Caroll's excellent speech, I stumbled about "a part of infinity".
Eckard Blumschein
Hi Eckard,
I am curious,what is your philosophical idea about this infinity and infinities.Do you consider a main cause to our reality,like an Eternal infinite consciousness sending,creating codes informations,to build this universe? You can explain me with maths,numbers,physics .What is in resume the origin of our physicality.Regards
Dear Steve and Eckard,
When the finite word "infinity" was entered into the Google Search Engine, it elicited: "About 818,000,000 results (0.74 seconds)" NATURE must have provided only ONE reality. The only true fact every physicist who has ever lived has been able to conclusively prove about the real physical universe was that the real planet Earth (and all matter) had a real VISIBLE surface for MILLIONS of years BEFORE men ever appeared on that real VISIBLE surface and began publishing 818,000,000 finite results for the finite word "infinity." There has only ever been, and there will only ever continue to be ONE unified INFINITE VISIBLE surface ETERNALLY occurring in ONE INFINITE dimension that am always mostly illuminated by One form of non-surface light.
Joe Fisher, Realist
Hi Steve,
While I appreciate to some degree discussions about superfinitism by mathematicians like Katz, cf.
https://cs.nyu.edu/pipermail/fom/2017-November/020691.html ,
and I hesitated to completely swallow the superfinitist view of Mückenheim who argues against the infinitum absolutum, I got aware of confusion due to two quite different meanings: being infinite as a property, and Leibniz' relative infinity. With respect to physics, I rather perfer Salviati (Galileo).
Regards,
Rckard
Dear Eckard,
Thank you for agreeing with me wholeheartedly.
Joe Fisher, Successful Realist
Hello Eckard,Joe,
Eckard,thanks for sharing your points of vue about the finite systems,the infinities and infinity.I didn't know Muckenheim. I like so much Galilei,one of my favoritsS with Planck,Newton,Einstein,Fermi,Dirac,Feynmann mainly.They were so relevant generally speaking.The finite systems are built too with these infinities,and constants.What I find relevant is to correlate with this infinity outside this physicality,finite.Philosophically speaking I beleive in all humility that it's very important like main cause of our reality.Regards
My position is only a bit different from militant atheism by Richard Dawkins who even suggested anti-Templetonism.
Admittedly, as a boy I was not very interested in a dissertation by a relative of mine, Oskar Blumschein "Leibniz und Ludwig Feuerbach : die Persönlichkeiten und ihre ethischen Lehren", Erlangen, 1919.
Incidentally, when I mentioned Salviati (Galileo G.) I referred to his opinion that the relations smaller than, equal to, and larger than are invalid in case of infinite quantities. They only belong to finite ones.
To me today, the belief in a "main cause of our reality" is mere religion, no science.
Dr. Eckard Blumschein
I respect your point of vue.But never you shall ponder general équations,or theories if you Don't insert this infinite Eternal consciousness,this maincause of our reality.It's odd for a doctor to not encircle this.For your information Einstein said that God dindn't play at dices.We can have faith and in the same time respect our pure determinism.For your information stil,all these past thinkers like Tesla,Newton,Galilei,Dirac,Einstein,Planck,Maxwell,Lie,Feynmann and so more had considered this main cause.Don't confound religions which are Simply human inventions,it's totally different,I am not religious.I just consider an infinite Eternal consciousness creating the codes to imply this physicality.For me Eckard,it's odd for a doctor to not understand this main cause.On facebook,many freinds from USA,India....,philodoctorates understand what I tell,and them too consider this main cause,for your information,even Witten and his strings,branes consider a 1D main field creating the matters.Don't confound religions please which are human inventions,not rational.Even Poincarré,Cantor,Euler,Riemann,Lie....Don't be offensed but instead learn better the works of these general thinkers ,you shall understand better these finite series,the infinities,and the INFINITY.If not you shall just ponder details but vever generalities.Sorry but it's the Truth Eckard,don't forget,God doesn't play at dices,but with sphères in motions,rotations,oscillations.Don't forget too,don't confound the religions with a deterministic faith in God.Regards
Eckard,really it's very odd,do you know that Cantor considered this too?he identified the Absolute Infinite with God,and he considered his work on transfinite numbers to have been directly communicated to him by God, who had chosen Cantor to reveal them to the world.Lol so you speak about infinities,infinity,finite systems without really understand their real meanings.Don't be vanitious but learn more generally speaking.I can understand it's not easy to change a line of reasoning,but I am persuaded that you can do it,you seems smart,so please go farer,deeper in your analyses about Numbers,matters,energies,infinities,infinity,finite systems,constants.Friendly
Dear Dr. Merali,
You saw fit to remove my comments because you deemed them inappropriate for this thread. Why then are you allowing Steve and Eckard to parrot unnatural codswallop that has nothing to do with supposedly finite causality?
Joe Fisher, Realist
How to explain at Akademia the remarkable 3,003 Views and Paper Rank 2.1 for "Cantor on Infinity in Nature, Number, and the Divine Mind"? If I recall correctly, the paper by Anne Newstead was printed in a Catholic Journal.
To those who intend learning about confusion in fundamentals of mathematics, I recommend reading at least key papers by Katz and by Mückenheim, beginning with "Die Geschichte des Unendlichen", firth edition Augsburg 2004.
What about ethics by Leibniz, Feuerbach, and maybe Oskar B. too, I would like to vote for a completed ethics that includes the obligation to birth control as a part of reasonable limitation to destruction of the globe. Richard Dawkins and Greta Th. were cowards when they shied back from this consequence.
Eckard Blumschein
Hi,
Dear Joe ,yes of course and the next president of USA will be Mickey Mouse and the next director of UN Donald Duck,of course of course,and your visible surface is the key for all our unknowns,yes of course,thanks for all your nonsenses.
Dear Eckard,thanks for developping.
Hi Eckard,
I repeat ,please don t confound the religions and a kind of deterministic faith in a thing above our understanding.The religions have nothing to do with a real understanding with this infinite eternal potential ,consciounsess.You can tell us all what you want about maths,physics,numbers,infinities,infinity,finite series,that does not change the interpretation of a majority of thinkers,searchers...I am conscious that the sciences community is divided,but for me it is odd for people wanting to know what is matters energy transformation to not consider this main cause.How can we encircle,understand the codes,informations,encodings,diversities of matters...without this important parameter.You beleive that we come from nothing? that we are a result of a hazard,it seems so not possible,even nonsense.Regards