Dear Sue,
I completely agree that it is best to stay as much as possible in agreement with direct observations. When it is not possible to directly observe something, it is best to at least use indirect observation results. There is, of course, always a level of structure that can't be observed either directly or indirectly. This is the case with the smallest structural level that has been discovered from results of observations, but no means have yet been discovered to even indirectly observe it internally. At present this is the structural level of matter, energy photon, and field particles. Analyzing observations made from the level above this level can give us hints as to the compositions and structuring of these things, however. As an example, man cannot currently observe matter particles internally even indirectly, but man can attract and accelerate them to near the speed of light and aim groups of them at each other to cause them to interact with each other. The outputs of the interactions can then be indirectly observed and analyzed. As a result of this it has been determined that the original matter particles may be destroyed, but many new matter particles and energy photons can be created as a result of an interaction between two particles, such as protons. The rest mass of all of the new particles created during an interaction can be greater than the rest mass of the two original input particles. This means that rest mass is not conserved, since the amount of rest mass in the world is increased by the interaction. A matter particle and its antimatter particle can interact resulting in the conversion of them into photons with no rest mass, so it can vary in either direction. If you use E=MC^2 to convert the rest mass into energy, it is obvious that some of the linear kinetic motion of the two original matter particles and their rest masses has been converted into the rest masses of the particles that are produced by the interaction. If you add to this the output kinetic motions of the new matter particles and the energy contained in the energy photons that are produced by the interaction, etc., it becomes apparent that total energy (rest mass energy and kinetic motion energy) of the output entities is equal to the total energy of the two input particles that interacted with each other. From this it can be observed indirectly that the great amount of kinetic linear motion that was contained in the two input matter particles has been converted into matter particles and energy photons. The total amount of motion is conserved in these interactions. Since new matter particles and energy photons have been created by the interaction, it is clearly seen that the number of matter particles and energy photons is also not conserved. This means that only linear motion in all of its forms is clearly conserved. The things that are constructed of linear motion, such as matter, energy photon, and field particles are not conserved because they can be converted into each other and can also be converted back into linear motions. These things can be observed indirectly in the output results of collisions between two matter particles that contain a great amount of kinetic linear motion near the speed of light. Once it is understood that fields, energy photons and matter particles are all composed of linear motions, the next step is to get an understanding of how linear motions can be structured or built up together in each of them give each of them their observed output results during interactions with other particles, etc. I am showing how that can work, in a way that is in accordance with observations both direct and indirect. Since man in this world, for the most part, has not yet come to understand these things, there is still much knowledge that must be obtained in seeking to fully understand this structural level of field, energy photon, and matter particle structure and operation. To attempt to skip over this level and go to the next level of simple motions and the dimensional system that they exist and move in and that supports them, would be very unwise because of man's current lack of understanding of the details of the structural layer of field, energy photon, and matter particle structure and operation that exists above that layer of simple motions and the dimensional system and the current lack of observational information from experiments designed to become able to indirectly observe the internal structuring and operation of field, energy photon, and matter particles. This leaves one in the realm of using just his imagination without adequate connection to observed reality to guide in development of a proper understanding of that structural level. Man, always wants to understand what is at the end of the line, but true understanding only comes by traveling down the line to the end while accumulating needed new information along the way, so that at the end you can totally understand the complete system. Man's current lack of information concerning this structural level has led to belief in many imaginary concepts like zero-point energy and vacuum energy, etc. that don't really exist. It looks like you are basing your structural concepts to some degree on such things with the idea that energy can be static and not moving to mark spatial positions, etc. The universe is completely composed of empty space except where it contains the motions that move within it. Nothing else is needed to make all of its reality.
What does Godel's thermos apply to. Does it apply to how Godel always had a supply of good hot coffee to keep him alert to allow him to get more work done? I'm just kidding. Instead of trying to work only in a more and more restricted language form to attempt to work with more precision, which restricts one's ability to communicate effectively with most other people who do not operate within those restrictions, I have chosen to learn and understand man's general language form, so I can as much as possible, both understand what someone else is trying to convey to me and also to give me the ability to communicate to others the information that I need to transfer to man in a way that can as much as possible be understood by as many as possible. As a part of this, I have found that we all fail to be completely accurate in our communications with others no matter how much of a perfectionist we are. I also used to try to do things perfectly and with precision and thought that math would allow me to express things in more that way, but over time I found that the more precise you make your language structure, the greater is the amount of detail that gets left out. Math could be designed to include those details, but then it becomes less precise also. We live in a world of many things that are connected to each other in a complex interactive web. Language is an attempt to model that complex web and is, therefore, complex and can be imprecise because it may not always be clear which of the many meanings that can be expressed by a given word or phrase, etc. is the one that is intended by the speaker. It takes a long time of using the language to learn how to be able to gain understanding of this intent from the overall context of what is being presented by the speaker, but it is well worth the time spent because it not only helps you to understand what others are trying to say to you, but also helps you to frame your communications with others in such a way as to promote their understanding of you, which is important if you have something important to convey to them. By applying these principles my guess is that you were actually talking about Godel's theorems. You may have entered theroms in your word processor and it automatically converted it to thermos. Is that right? Man's word processors are still not good at determining the intended word from overall context of the full text.
A simple linear motion uses a few stored information entities to allow it to operate as it does.
1. Its current spatial position
2. Its current composite three-dimensional direction of travel
3. Its current motion amplitude (its motion amount or speed)
Its only operation in the lack of an interaction with another motion is to continually change its current spatial position in accordance with its stored direction and motion amplitude information. It cannot change its direction or motion amplitude information. These can only be changed as a result of an interaction with one or more other motions. They are read only to the simple linear motion. It can only write into or change its current spatial position information to allow it to continually change its spatial position. Since it continues to change its position in space it could only occupy a given discrete spatial unit transitionally because it would then continue on to the next position. It, therefore, could not remain in a given position to mark that position as a physical existent minimum spatial position in a spatial network of any kind. No motion can do that because if it did that it would not be a motion because it would be stationary or not moving. All forms of energy come down to being simple linear motions, so no energy could be present and just remain in a single spatial position to mark it as a real existent spatial position either. In reality the spatial positions don't need to be marked to exist. They exist even when they are empty.
The closest thing to an aether that really exists is that most of space is permeated by simple linear motions that travel at the speed of light or less. These are field particles. It is actually relatively easy to understand observable particle behavior when you understand the simple linear motions that they are constructed of and how those motions are structured within them to cause them to behave as they do in external interactions with other particles. The details of the structure of the spatial system are not generally needed to explain most of the particle hierarchical level of structure in the same way that atomic level structure can be understood without knowing all of the details of the particle level of structure.
When I was younger, man's accepted theory of the structure of the universe was called the steady state theory and it was presumed by that theory that the universe had always existed. It was thought that stars would burn out and explode into clouds of dust that would then condense into new stars, etc. Scientists did not seem to think that it would be a problem for the universe to always have existed with no beginning. Later scientific knowledge increased and it began to be apparent that it did not always exist, but had to have been created. This has led to the current situation. Most scientists currently don't want to consider that God could have always existed and could have created the universe. They therefore, try to think of some way that the universe could have created itself from nothing, which is actually much less likely, especially when you consider that as scientific knowledge has increased it has become vary apparent that the universe is extremely complex in structure, such that even in fourteen billion years it would not be possible for it to have all come about naturally by random processes. Since man was not against the concept that the universe always existed, but when that has been proven to be wrong, has now rejected the concept that God could have always existed, which has not been proven to be wrong, it can only be that those who are currently in control of the scientific structure desire to not believe in God's existence. The result has been the introduction of many theories that don't even conform to scientific observations and understandings that have been proven to be right in conformance to reality. One observable evidence that we have that God could have always existed is that the Christian scriptures say that God put motion into the creation to make things. If God always existed his motions that he is constructed of would be eternal and would be conserved and that is what we observe in the motions in the universe.
I am not sure how you are using the phrase (Spaceless-Timeless logic framework). A framework would normally be the base structure upon which the system as a whole is built. Logic implies a set of intelligent rules or operations that enable the production and/or operation of a system as opposed to random occurrences. From this it can be understood that you mean that there is a set of rules and/ or operations that together build and/or operate a Spaceless-Timeless system. The word logic also implies that the set of rules and/or operations will construct a working system that will produce some desired output results. This generally can only be the result of a thought process of a mind that designs the system rules and/or operations with the intent of using it to produce those intended results. Do you believe in the existence of such a mind and if yes what is the nature of that mind? Generally, any functioning system that produces some real output product, such as a real Space-Time structural system that contains real things like space, matter, and energy photons in that space would have to start with some real system structure. You say that the 3D spherical quantization geometry encapsulates the point boundary between the Causal Spaceless-Timeless logic framework and a Reality Space- Time logic framework. The implication here is that the Causal Spaceless-Timeless logic framework system somehow causes or generates the 3D spherical quantization geometry around a point. Is that point a spatial point and if not, what is its consistency? How does it operate in its spaceless-timeless environment to make that encapsulation and does it also create the point and if so, how does it do that? If it does not create the point where does it come from. It would seem that by normal geometry concepts that more than one point cannot exist in a geometric system without space between them to differentiate one point from another. A three-dimensional spatial system would by normal definition contain 3 dimensions, each of which would need to contain at least two points in order for them to be dimensions. This would mean at least a total of eight points in the composite 3-dimensional system. Given my present level of understanding of your concepts, it looks like in the beginning some spaceless-timeless system would have to be made according to a set of logic rules by some intelligent being who could make such rules with the purpose of creating a space-time logic system according to logic rules that would then allow it to create an actual real 3 dimensional system structure containing space and the entities that are in that space. In the beginning spaceless-timeless environment how would the point be constructed and how would the 3D spherical quantization that encapsulates it be constructed and what would they be constructed of? It is good that you see that the minimum size that an expansion of the universe began at is not necessarily a zero-dimensional point. Keep that in your mind. It is an important understanding.
As I mentioned earlier, motions move from spatial point to spatial point, so true motions could not be you QE.
A rotation or spin is a two-dimensional structure. If a QE remains on a single spatial point it could not spin. It would have access only to the point that it was on and would, therefore, have a point to spin around, but would not have an extension beyond that point that it could spin around that point. Moreover, a spin or rotation requires a continual interaction of at least two simple motions operating on points in the extension of an object that are beyond the center point of the spin. The center point does not rotate around the center axis because it is the center axis that everything else rotates around.
You would be right that no one could move in relation to anyone else if all motions were of the same motion amplitude and they also all traveled in the same direction, but it is not true if they can travel in different directions.
Working from manifestation or observation is the only way that concepts can be checked for validity or conformance to observed reality. It is also the way that new conceptualizations can be guided as they are formed and developed to most likely be accurate and true to reality. You are right that it does not prove itself, but the proof is in whether concepts can generate and operate reality as it is. A person can conceptualize concepts of how the world works in his own mind according to how he would like the world to work with no reference to observed reality, but the results will most likely be wrong in many areas. That is what I see going on more and more over time. It is setting scientific development back greatly.
It is true that we could not know much about God if he did not desire for us to know things about him, but he has provided much information about himself and the creation that he made and what his purpose for making it was and even what our part is in his creation in the Christian Old and New Testaments and in images or likenesses of him and of invisible things that he has built into the creation as I explained in my previous comment to you. This is why we can get an idea of how atoms work even though we cannot see them, from looking at similarities between them and large-scale things that he made. God has given much information about himself. Because of this we can know God with more precision than we can know about many things in the earth. As an example, we are all of man, but we don't know a lot about our own structure concerning our body, soul, and spirit. As I mentioned in my previous comment, God gives us information about our soul and spirit that is still not widely known by man even though it has been in the scriptures for over two thousand years. The information that I am currently giving to man about field, energy photon, and matter particle structure from simple linear motions is new to this planet, but I recently found that in the scriptures, God gives this information and shows that it is another image of him. In Genesis 1, 1, it says "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. And God said, let there be light: and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day." God first tells us that he created the heaven and the earth. More information about the heaven, that it is divided into three heavens, etc. is given in other places in the scriptures, but here he tells us things about the earth structure. First, he says that it is meant to contain things that have shapes or forms, but it is empty of them or void. This tells us that he first constructed the empty spatial system. Part of that system is called the deep and it has a face or surface that is dark at that time (light had not yet been created). He then calls it waters and again mentions its face or surface. Then God's Spirit moves upon the face or surface of the waters. This is the introduction of all of the individual motions that would ever be in the earth system. They would be the simple linear motions that make up the field particles. Here God's Spirit is telling us that the field particles that he introduced into the earth are an image of him. Like God the father the field particles are invisible, but hold the matter particles together in the atoms, the atoms together in the molecules, and the molecules together in the large-scale structures, etc. They are also the source from which the energy photons and matter particles are made. Next God says, let there be light. The part of God that would say something is his Word, so the light is an image of the Word who made that image of himself. The light is the mediator between us and the world around us. It gives us information about things that exist outside of us in the world. God's Word is the mediator between man and the Spirit of God and gives us information about God's Spirit and what he is doing and what he wants us to do. This would be accomplished by adding more motion to some of the field particles to change them into energy photons. The next step is that God divided the light from the darkness. This would be the addition of more motion to some of the energy photons to turn them into matter particles, which would make them dark, since the energy photon within them is trapped within its enclosed motion path of the matter particle. Here it says that God did this, which would mean that the matter particles represent an image of God's body with God's Spirit and his Word in it, all working together to do God's will, which represents an image of the Holy Ghost, which is God's body. Notice that when the motions were added to the earth it caused time to begin as measured by the night and day. It is interesting that was the case before the sun and other stars or even the earth's firmament or heaven, etc. were made. Next it says "And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day. Notice that God is still talking about the waters that are part of the earth's dimensional system. He makes three divisions in that system. The waters above the firmament, which he doesn't tell us what it is used for here, the firmament which is located in the middle and he later says that he added the sun the moon and stars, etc. to it, so we can see that this represents what we see as the universe and is the earth's Heaven. The third division is the waters under the firmament, which he gathers together and forms the liquid and solid forms of matter. This would be the making of the planets with seas and dry land. He then begins to make the living creatures, first in the seas and then on the dry land which he calls the earth. The final thing that he makes is man in God's image. All of this means that all that we see as the universe is just a part of the earth. If there are creatures on other planets that are made in God's image (that have a spirit, a soul, and a body) they are also earthlings and could also become members of God's body. As you can see a very great amount of information about the creation is given at the beginning of the scriptures and much more is given in other parts of the scriptures. Notice that the motions were added to the surface of the waters or deep of the earth and this generated the forms or shapes in the dimensional system. The waters are a part of a machine with four giant Wheels that see or sense the motions in the waters and translate those motions into output motions in our dimensional system. The machine is located in a four-dimensional structure. It is a part of a five- dimensional structure, which is the first heaven and is controlled by beings called the powers. The fifth- dimensional world is a part of a six-dimensional world called the second heaven that is controlled by the principalities. The sixth-dimensional world is part of a seven-dimensional world called the third heaven, which is controlled by the angels. The seven-dimensional world is part of an eight-dimensional world, which is reserved for God only. If you had a two-dimensional world on a wall in your house that had living beings on it, they could build little square houses for them to live in made out of lines with a small line on one side that could swing open and shut to make a door, so that they could go into their houses and shut their doors and feel safe from anyone watching them, but you could look down from the third- dimension above them and see all that they do. They could not see you because they would not have access to the third-dimension. In the same way those in control of each dimensional level could observe and even act in the lower dimensional worlds. Of course, God is at the top level and has ultimate control over all others. God is also the only one who exists outside of the creation. It appears that before he made the creation, God filled everywhere. It looks like he moved part of himself out of a place big enough in which to build the creation with some extra space outside of the creation, so that his very great amount of motion would not burn it up. I get this from places like Acts, 17,27-28, "That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us: For in him we live, and move, and have our being;". Concerning the Word, God says in John 1, 18 "No man has seen God at any time; the only begotten son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him." If we put these two together, we see that God the Father has the Word in his bosom and he is the mediator between the Father and us and he says that we are in him also. Since we are in the creation, it must also be in him. Notice that a rib in a man is in his bosom, so if the reference in the scriptures about God taking a rib out of Adam to make eve is an image of God taking some of his motion out of that equivalent part of himself to make the creation it all fits together. A great amount of detailed information about God and his creation can be found in the scriptures. You may not believe the things about the heavens, etc. because you cannot observe them, but you seem to be willing to believe the concepts that you made up in your mind about how the creation happened when there is no observational evidence of that either. The three heavens are also an image of God. God says that the angels in the third heaven are ministering spirits, so they are an image of the Spirit of God. The Principalities in the second heaven would be the image of the Word and the Powers in the third heaven are an image of the Holy Ghost because they directly control the things in the earth.
Because of the information that God has provided in the scriptures and in the images of himself in the creation, God is as precisely defined as most of the concepts behind science and it is not a something from nothing creation model because God has always existed and is the something who has created the something of the creation.
The problem with the spaceless timeless cause energy is that it cannot be observed and is also not well defined as to what substance it is made of and how that substance is structured in it to cause it to work in the way that it is supposed to work and how it came into being. Moreover, the spaceless timeless world that it is in and comes from is also not defined as to what it is made of and how it functions. For the spaceless and timeless world to exist it must have some positive structure and things that exist in it. How do things work in that world?
The three parts of God does not include cause as intent. Intents are what the Spirit of God generates as the initiators of all actions. God Does have a Spirit, but unless you are considering the QE to be an intelligent being capable of generating intents to plan, make, and do many varied things with an overall purpose for making the creation including making everything in it and including making us to become parts of himself (his body parts) and has plans to replace this limited temporary creation with a new eternal creation for him to live in inside of his body parts through his mediator ( the Word) without end, the QE would not be equal to God's Spirit. I am guessing that by "space as discrete form" you are equating the form of space as equal to God's body because it has a form, but if that is the case there is one big difference. Although space may come in some particular geometric form or shape and God's body will also have a form or shape, space is a form of emptiness while God's body is a form of a substance that is in existence that fills empty space making it no longer empty. In that sense it is the opposite of space. The form of space is passive in that it cannot act to make or do anything by itself while God uses his body to do things in the new creation, God's Body is active).
I would say that there is a great difference between the act of creation of all things and a spaceless feeling of a timeless now. We could not have any feelings about anything if we had not been created. God likely could have had a feeling of a timeless now by just not adding motion to the creation, since time started when he added motion to it. Of course, without the motion it would have just remained to be an empty spatial system, which wasn't his intent. God is also much more than a simple Space-Timer.
Before the Word of God took on the form of flesh of a man, God communicated to people by him in different ways. In the beginning, he communicated to Adam directly by speaking to him. Later after man's fall from God by sin, he communicated to man by words or visions, etc. given to those who were following God. As time went on God gave man commandments to do good things and to not do bad things as a guide to those who came later. The Old Testament is a compilation of these communications that God made with many people over time and contain much information that God has given to man about himself and the creation that he made. The Old testament time was a time for man to learn that he could not save himself, but needed God to save him. The commandments that God gave to man were good for man to do for his own benefit and God said that if a man would keep them (not sin) he could save himself because it was sin (breaking the commandments) that carried the penalty of death. God knew that man could not keep them because he had written laws into man's flesh that would cause man to sin. These laws, such as the individual survival imperative, the desire to have sexual pleasures, and the desire to think of one's self as better than others, etc. were good for individual survival and producing offspring to carry on after one's death, etc., but were not very good in man's relations with other men to work together. They were also not very good at promoting a relationship with God as their Lord or ruler over them because the law in them told them that they should be the preeminent one over all others. The end result was that all men sin and are, therefore, worthy of the penalty of death, but God planned at the beginning of the creation to provide a way for them to still be saved by having his word take on the body of flesh of a man and live a life without sin because he would have God's Spirit in him to overcome the laws of the flesh in him. Then he would be a worthy sacrifice to offer himself up and die as a payment to God for our sins, so that through him we could have our sins forgiven and be saved. God told about his future coming in the Old Testament times and those who believed him and trusted in God to save them through his coming and offering for their sins to be forgiven were saved through their belief at that time. Once Jesus came and preached the good news of salvation through him, all who believe in him and accept him as their Lord and Savior are saved. We now have both the Old testament to let us see that we need to be saved and can't live without sin by ourselves and save ourselves, but need to be saved through Jesus working in us as our Lord and Savior and can now believe in and receive him into us and be saved and become his body members, which is God's desire for us to be. God still does do works at times through those who are his body members. There are gifts of the Spirit that are given to people according to God's grace (favor). Since they are given by God as it favors him, you cannot pick and chose the one(s) that you want or when you can use them, etc. Part of the reason that those works are not seen very much in modern society is that most have been indoctrinated to not believe in God and one condition of receiving a gift such as a healing is that those receiving the gift must believe that God can and will heal them. There is even a record in the scriptures where Jesus was in a place and could not do many works there because of their unbelief. Because of this it is most likely that such works will be seen in out of the way places where the people have not been indoctrinated to not believe in God. One of the gifts is prophecy where God gives someone a message to give to one or more others. As an example, after Jesus died and was resurrected and ascended up to heaven, a prophet told Paul that when he went to Rome he would be put in chains (imprisoned) and that happened.
The problem here is that God has made the only way to communicate with him to be through the Word in a way that is acceptable to him. You can make as many models as you want as precisely as you want, but they won't work unless you communicate with him in the way that is acceptable to him. You cannot force him to submit to you and serve you as you desire him to do, but instead if you want to truly communicate with him you have to come to him as a servant to him and learn from him the way that is acceptable to him, which you can find in the scriptures. Then you can come to him and he will listen to you. It is then up to him to decide if and how he will respond to you. The thing that you have to remember and accept is that God is rightfully the one in control as your creator, so you must come to him first as his willing servant. If you continue with him and seek him through the scriptures, he will tell you who he is, what he has done, what he is doing now, and what he will do in the future. Once he has shown you the things of him and you have received and believed them, he will then change your relationship to him to be an adopted son of God instead of being his servant.
I can understand what it is like to be very busy because I also had times in my life where I was very busy at work. I am now retired from all of that, but I still keep busy with this contest and other things at times. Maybe we can continue to communicate during this contest if that is according to your desire and if I live and can still enter next year's contest we could continue again then. I won't likely study your other publications because I believe that you will do much better by widening your perspective of things rather than to continue to narrow it. I found that to work much better for me. Is someone paying you to produce the UQs Virtual Quantum Lab Game or is it just something that you desire to do?
Sincerely,
Paul