""Olivier, all this is very interesting. We search answers about this consciousness and its computability,""

as yet mentioned,....

human brain process compute but not only as the process of creation or intuition can not be computable

8 days later

This planet is so divided, in all countries , cultures, religions. Divided by this sad common past of adaptation to all. Divided by the fact to survive , divided due to the social levels and the money.

The social Spheres are complex. The enterprises , societies are in competition, they are too divided but unite skillings in their own spheres of activity to win more, and all this implies that we are divided and we live in a kind of normality for this adaptation and survival. Me I tell you , this planet is not really universal even if it exists too universal social spheres and good humans.

The richest work between them, the poorest too in trying to survive, the others follow a system in trying too to survive, they buy a home, a car, the food and go in Holidays to have a little bit of calm and pleasure. The politics the same, all divided . What is this reality frankly , are we stupid at this point us the humans ? are we so in this normality and acceptation of a global system not harmonised and all we think it is logic ?

The most sad is that the soluitons exist and this vanity does not help also.We go all in the wall of chaos if we don t change, I ask me what do the high spheres of power frankly , are they skilling knowing that these global solutions exist for the well of all lifes of this sphere Earth ?

11 days later

Dear Members of FQXi , I know that several are relevant general thinkers and so you are naturally universal altruists and you have probably concrete global solutions. I know that it is not easy to follow a system like mine here on FQXi, you are also occupied with your works, your lifes .....But I need your help to success, it is possible to convice the UN if we are a good relevant team and if we forget all our vanity and life. The solutions in all cases exist withy sciences , consciousness ,logic. We can improve this earth simply in considering the foundamentals .

We must be simply a good team with good solutions and we utilise the televisions, the medias, the communication to reach the aim. I believe that the normality is too much accepted and also that it is not easy to follow, the humans prefer to be followed, if it is the case , we cannot create this team. Help me please to success, lets do this incredible revolution, it is possible , FQXi the MIT are at new york, the world bank, the UN, wall street too , so we can.

Regards

    You know dear all,

    let s be logic and rational considering our past, this evolution, the adaptation, the actual global system. We live all on an earth even if we think that we are evolved on a plant having several not harmonised parameters. The UN and the leaders are in a kind of normality I repeat, like if all is logic and that we must accept this speed of evolution. But in fact it is not logic respecting the laws that this universe show us.

    I d say even that the most wise and kind humans aware of these universal truths in sciences and consciousness we have been maybe too nice in the sense that we don t compete because we prefer the cooperation, we try to fight even in us this vanity, this greed, this materialism, this individualism. And during this time, the others have taken the power and a sure fact is that the majority of leaders are not real universal altruists, lets name a cat a cat, if they were real universalists skilling to solve concretelly, the world d be better simply.

    They want to keep their power, they have even created strong systems to keep their interests, they are all at wall street, paying the best scientist, the best businessmen, the best politicians, the best judges and lawyers, attorneys....and they even make philanthropies because it well seen by the humans and their team tell them all the strategies to keep this power.

    They don t listen to us the scientists, they are satisfied like this in this normality. I don t tell of course that they are all bad humans , no I tell that it is a normality and that we are going to pay the prices because we are not governed by the most wise, most universal , most skilling in sciences...humans simply . They want to keep this power like the billonairies, the millonairies, the royal famillies, the politicians.... so they can keep it , but maybe yes we have been too nice us the real universalists prefering the cooperation than this competition, because if we d be governed by real universalists skilling seeing that the energy and the potential and the matters are not a problem, so yes we d live on a better earth and we could help all lifes animal and vegetal better,

    Why are we obliged to accept this knowing that these solutions exist ? I have even seen that the billonairies now are secretaries at this UN like the royal famillies or others and when real universalists arrive they give them a little bit of recognisings and it is sufficient , they probably think , it is ok like this they are happy like this, they are good humans, but in fact nothing change really revolutionary speaking you know.

    I have tried to explain all this to Mr Bloomberg on linkedin and others too . I have even seen Oprah Winfrey intrigued by my project here on FQXi , but in fact the humans now prefer the money than the real truths it seems to me, it is the same for the notoriety, it is the wallet the most important.

    If we don t change generally we go all in the wall in a near future. I don t want to take their money and power to these leaders, I don t want to be a problem for the religions, the cultures, the countries or societies and enterprises, I just want to improve this planet for the well of all, all lifes, and all wins. Is it a hidden camera all this or what ? Are we stupid and vanitious at this point globally speaking, are we so divided and in a sleeping state at this point ??? I don t understand to be frank how it is possible knowing that we can do it with sciences and consciousness.

    I have hope for this project but knowing the humans I ask me how it is possible to unite and convice, they prefer all to be followed now than to follow, they follow the money and the notoriety or power instead of this universalism and rational sciences. Tell to the humans wow you are wonderfull , and take ths money, there they come and follow , or tell them you are the central piece of this project, there they come just to satisfy this said vanity still and always.

    But the hope exists fortunally.

    I insist a lot about this vanity, this greed, this unconsciousness, this normality but really be sure these parameters can imply an add of chaotical exponentials soon .

    14 days later

    Are you all aware that we are on a planet where the money governs all and that the billonaires and royal famillies even are secretaries of the UN, they govern even the governments in paying the attorneys and politicians to keep this power, I don t tell that they are corrupted or all bad humans, I tell that we are not governed by the most wise and universal humans having concrete solutions. Thomas Jefferson said in 1816,the end of democracy and the defeat of the american revolution will occur when government falls into the hands of lending institutions and moneyed incorporations.......

    10 days later

    The capitalism or socialism are not really the problem. We are arrived at a pardox with the capitalism, it was created with the democracy and freedom in the past and like all was on the road of buildings, so it was easier to create an enterprise because the competition was still reasonable . Now we are arrived at a time wher this competition looses this democracy because simply all is created and that the smallest enterprises cannot compete with these enormous societies and lobbies. Wall street for example where all is centralised is became a game to buy and sell, and they buy even the bankrupcies, the paradox is that in fact the volumes of these enormous enteprises increase simply and that the competition is finished generally, it is normal they pay the best economists, businessnen, sellers, politicians,attorneys to keep these interests and business and to buy more and become so more powerful , the small enterprises cannot compete even the start ups in fact. The paradox so is that we go all in a kind of capitalistic communism due to this. The problem is that we have different cultures, countries and if we take the usa and europa more the business they make with the world and this china , are they coing to agree to find the points of equilibrium ? I hope yes becaise if not it is a catastrophe in a near future. The UN it is the same , who govern now this UN, it is them the billonairies , royal famillies, the attorneys of these societies and lobbies, the judges and politicians , they are secretraries . That is why I believe strongly that we need a revolutionary industrialisation to rebegin with a correct competition and a democracy for the enterprises. And this solar system, wheels in orbit and others more funds of this WB are essential. The consciousness so become simply a key to reach the points of equilibrium, but the problem is that the high spheres of power are not really conscious of what I tell.

      9 days later

      Hi, Esa, Nasa, WB, UN ,All governments, the royal famillies, the billionaires, the people aware of these universal truths...we must all work together and be less divided and in competition.

      This solar system and these wheels in orbit and the utilisation of matters and energies of mars and others are an essential step of evolution for the earth and all lifes, not only the humans, we have the potential to multiplicate the animals and vegetals and create harmonious ecosystems. It is just a choice, a free will.

      I have difficulties to understand why it is not still made in fact. I know that we are in a system not perfect and that we are divided , in competition but it seems very odd in fact knowing that the solutions exist.

      It is not a problem of conflicts of interest I believe , because all wins, it is this normality and the fact we are divided and in a kind of individualism accepting this globality to survive.

      If it is this normality accepted or the vanity , or others the persons prefering to be followed instead to follow can be leaders of this project global collaboration, I know the human vanity , we are all non perfect humans dear friends.

      In all cases , we can do it , I believe strongly that it is possible in unting the good systems and people.

        19 days later

        This is an interesting article.

        https://www.griffithreview.com/articles/an-algorithm-for-altruism-data-analytics-combating-inequality/

        An algorithm for altruism

        An algorithm for altruism https://www.griffithreview.com/articles/an-algorithm-for-altruism-data-analytics-combating-inequality/

        23 days later

        Hello Steve!

        We haven't heard from you for a little while. I'm sure this is a highly stressful time for you. Please let us know how you are doing and how things are where you are at. Sincerely wishing you are well and safe, John Cox

        Hello John, thanks fpor your words, it is nice, I am sometimes toired with my heart operation and some problems to solve in belgium due to a succession but that goes, I am sad too for these problems in ukraine, the humans can be very odd .I hope it will evolve on the good road all this story.For this project Global collaboration, I try to unite and pass the message on facebook and linkedin ,but not easy, the humans are in a kind of normality and follow only the celebrities, the money or others.But I will continue, I d like that the members of FQXi like Penrose that I like a lot could help and write their ideas, we could success with the butterfly effect and the help of medias, FQXi is at new york like wall street, the UN, the WB.....in fact if the medias, some celebrities, some authorities in physics and sciences or other nobel prizes could help and follow this project, we could quickly arrive at relevant results , there is too a parameter to take into account, this kind of project can imply the fear for several systems and also the fear of a nice wise revolution , there are too systems against this kind of project, but I have hope.If I dont success, I hope that after if I die, the persons shall continue, because in fact it is possible to harmonise this earth with determinism and all wins. Best Regards dear friend, take care

        Hello Mr Jackson, thanks , we try to do our best for this project. The most difficult is to unite and convice. But I believe strongly that in being a good team multidisciplinary , we can imply a kind of butterfly effect with the medias and the skillings and good adaptable global solutions. Best Regards

        Steve! Wishing you a speedy recovery. Try not to stress too much. Best wishes.

        Hello Georgine, it is nice thanks, I must be prudent with my health, sometimes I feel not well but I relativate . friendly

        5 days later

        Hi Steve,

        I have looked at FQXI several times in the past 2 years since the last contest to see if a new one was started, but so far none have been started. Does anyone know if there will be any in the future or if they just decided to not have anymore? I have not seen any answers to that question on the site either way. The contests are very good in that people who have good new concepts that can become future mainstream science have a chance to publish their ideas and possibly get them seen by the science community even if they do not have and may not be able to afford the advanced education degrees that would allow their papers to be accepted by that community. This would fit in very well with the Black Lives Matter initiative that FQXI is now supporting. I believe, however, that it would be better to widen the initiative to include all of the poor that have good ideas, but can't afford to get the official degrees that would allow them to have access to the science community at large. This could include scholarships to those who demonstrate the ability to conceptualize and present valuable new concepts. It could also include searches in schools in poor areas for those who show promising abilities and possibly some support for them to get the education that they need to develop those abilities, etc.

        You do have many good ideas about man's need to work together in compassion and love for one another to advance science much faster than it is progressing at present and to give better lives to all. It is not difficult to get this to happen, except most people don't want to do what is necessary to get it to work.

        When this temporary creation was made, the Creator made it for a purpose, which is to make a body for himself do dwell in. He made us to become his Body members. The intent is that we all work together in love for one another and for the Creator. The Creator is composed of three parts that form the one Creator. These parts are his Spirit, his Word, and his Body. His Spirit is the highest part of him that generates his intents of what he will do and/or not do. These intents are much too complex for his Body to understand, so he made a part of himself to be part Body and part Spirit with the ability to translate both ways between his Spirit and his Body. This part is his Word. His Spirit only communicates with his Body members through his Word and his Body members can only communicate with his Spirit through his Word. The intended relationship between his Spirit and his Body members is that he will come into them through his Word and show them what he is doing and they will do likewise.

        He did not desire to force us to become members of his Body, but rather desired for us to see the benefits for us to have this relationship with him, so he gave us the freedom of choice so that we could freely choose to become his Body members or not. In order for there to be a real choice, he had to create an alternative choice that we could make. To do this he created a powerful angel named Lucifer for those to follow who did not desire to be his Body members. In this way people could either choose to become the Creator's Body members with him ruling over them or they would be given over to Lucifer to rule over them. In order for people who didn't want to have the Creator to rule over them to believe that they really had another real choice, he created a great delusion, so they could believe a lie. He put that delusion into Lucifer, which was to allow him to believe that he could be as the Creator, when, of course, he is nothing in comparison to the Creator. Lucifer then transferred this belief to man through Eve. Although there are still some who believe that they can somehow become as the Creator through multiple reincarnations, etc., most are realistic enough to accept that they could never be as great as the one who created the universe, but they say they just want to live their own lives according to their own intents and desires. This does not work, however, because if they do not choose to become members of the Creator's Body, they are then given over to Lucifer to rule over them. He uses many temptations, fears, and deceptions to get them to do according to his desires. Lucifer knows that once the Creator finishes creating all of his Body members, he will destroy this temporary creation, which will include him and all of those who did not become the Creator's Body members, so he desires to destroy as many people as he can before they have the chance to make that choice in order to slow down the finishing of that work in order to prolong his life. After this creation is destroyed, a new larger, better, and endless one will be made for his Body and him to live in. This creation is just the Body manufacturing plant and since the new creation and his Body members are eternal, he will no longer need the plant, so he will take all of the motions that he took out of himself to make it back into himself and since his motions are so much greater than those in the creation it will be burned up and completely destroyed by his presence.

        You might say that those who want to live good and productive lives in this world could just get together and make a good world to live in, but this will not work for a couple of reasons.

        1. The Creator built laws into us that are contrary to the Creator's laws. The Creators laws are the ones that would allow this to work. As an example, we are built to have a strong desire for self-preservation and although this can work well for individual preservation, it can work against the preservation and advancement of the whole. Each individual sees that many die from various causes around him, which makes him do things that he believes will give him a better chance to survive. No matter how much you have built up to protect you from harm, you can always think of greater things that could happen for which you would not be prepared. The problem here is that each person is very limited to what he can build up to protect himself from harmful things in the world. This causes people to devise ways to get some of what others produce for the benefit of themselves. One way to do this is for a person to hire others to make something that is desirable to others and give them a smaller amount than what the thing can be exchanged for, thus gaining from the labor of the hired workers. Another way is to get people to believe that you can and will lead them into having better and more protected lives and as their leader you deserve to have them pay taxes to you, etc. Another more destructive method is to find a group of people who have some trait that you don't have and convince people that this group is not as good as those not in that group. This then allows mistreatment of those in that group by making them slaves to do what you want them to do for very little in return. One such difference that is presently used is skin color. This is currently called racism. It should be pointed out that racism is just one manifestation of this much larger problem. As an example, in Africa where most people are black, the same problem exists, but instead of using skin color, it uses the tribe that a person belongs to. No matter how much a person gains in this way his mind tells him that he still needs more, so he continues to mistreat those around him. This can go on until just a few people own and control almost everything. This is the situation in the world today. The few that own and control the world desire to own everything and make all others work for them under their complete control by even controlling the availability of their next meal. They want absolute control over all others because they fear that they might be overthrown otherwise. They also plan to reduce the world's population from over 7 billion people to about 350 million people in the 2030-to-2050-time frame. This would mean that 95 out of every 100 people would need to die in one way or another by then. They began that by releasing the COVID-19 virus and by putting the spike protein into large numbers of people in vaccines. The spike protein attacks the immune system over time. They have basically completed that and have now moved on to creating a war, which can be used as an excuse to greatly raise prices to work toward their goal of taking all ownership away from everybody except themselves to gain absolute control over everybody.

        2. Lucifer actively works to get people to work against and destroy each other to fulfill his desires. This can include convincing people to use things that the Creator designed to be used for good by man in ways that are inappropriate and thus cause harm to man instead of good. An example of this is sexual relations. The Creator designed for a man and a woman who become joined together in marriage with the promise to stay together and love one another as long as they are both alive to be able to share together and enjoy the pleasure of sexual relations just between themselves to provide children to them for which they are responsible to take care of and love. This provides a stable environment for each new generation to be brought up in and to learn how to love one another and to love the Creator for providing this to them. Lucifer convinces his followers that they can have the pleasures of sex with anyone at any time with no responsibilities toward sexual partners. The result is the birth of many unwanted children that the mother often does not have the resources to take care of. Since no one wants to take care of those children, Lucifer convinces them to kill them with abortions. As you can see, things that the Creator made to be used in such a way that encourages long term loving relationships, are in that way perverted into very destructive behaviors that destroy many lives and also work against the establishment of long-term loving relationships. Since abortion became legal in the United States there have been over 66 million babies killed by abortion there. There are also many other ways that Lucifer deceives people to cause them to harm themselves and others.

        Through all of these types of actions and others by people, there are often those who are not doing these things who are harmed in one way or another by the actions of those who do such things. All of these things are allowed by the Creator to show us how bad the world becomes when people desire to be as gods controlling their own lives and often to also desire to control the lives of others. It is training for those who choose to become the Creator's Body members, so they will understand the end result of that behavior and not try to be that way in the world to come, to allow it to continue without end in love for each other and for the Creator, who is doing this great work and has chosen to include us in it with him. It is also for those who might observe these things happening and come to understand that the only way to have a good and endless life is by accepting the Creator's offer to us to include us in him as his Body members. He has made it easy to accept his offer that ends in eternal life and difficult to not make that choice, which results in death, to encourage us to make the right choice because of his love for us.

        So, the easy way for man to get the world that you say you desire is for all people to make the choice to become the Creator's Body members. Then people would all work together in love for one another and great advancements would be made in a very short time. The only hard part is to get everyone to make that choice. Of course, if a large number of people make that choice in a nation the Creator will work through them and that nation will prosper more than others that don't have that by the works that the Creator does through those Body members. So, every little bit helps. I hope this helps you.

        Sincerely,

        Paul

        Hi all.

        Can we discuss this article a little? Now when nuclear weapons swish in the ether we must agree that this madness cannot continue.

        https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/mar/13/putin-trump-ukraine-russia-invasion-war-21st-century

        Ulla.

          Thanks Paul Butler.

          I do research on consciousness, and your thinking is good. I use physics (some call it metaphysics, because we cannot use reductionism alone) and math to show on almost the same scenario.

          Steve has also many good thoughts about it.

          If there comes a new essay contest we can take part. I must admit I have lectures Zeeya Meralis on this alit. I am not a member here.

          I have written two essays earlier.

          Now I am thinking of the three worlds of Penrose and if they can be unified with a theological view about deduction, foundationalism and correspondence, where we can find immaterial aspects we can link to the mental, platonic and physical matter as Penrose have it. Maybe we can do a linking here?

          Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

          Ulla.

          We need to complement game theory? All is not about competition, we can also collaborate?

          Dear Ulla,

          I looked at the theory of three worlds by Penrose and found that some concepts in it are lacking.

          1. Mathematics is elevated beyond its actual use. Mathematics is just a part of man's language structure. It is composed of word structures that are linked together to show relationships between the basic words. Anything that can be expressed in a mathematical form can also be presented in man's normal word form. As an example, I can say "E=IR or I can say the force that pushes electrons in a circuit is equal to the number of electrons moving or flowing past a point in the circuit in a specific time period times the resistance to that flow. In the formula, E is a word form that represents the force (Electromotive force). The = word represents equals. The I word represents the number of electrons that flow past a point in the circuit in a time period (current). The R word represents the amount of resistance that the electrons experience to their flow in the circuit. Note that the normal descriptive language gives much more detailed information about the relationship described than is included in the mathematical formula form. The main advantage of the formula form is that it is much shorter to work with and shows the basic relationship more concisely. It lacks the structural details of what is being presented, however. Math is very useful to those who already understand the basic entities that are included in the formula to present and talk about concepts of relationships to others who also have this level of understanding. Math is not usually the best way to present concepts to those who have no background in the area. This is greatly due to the fact that in order to be very concise, a concept is usually represented in the form of a single character or other figure, which is very abstract in form. Only those who work in a field where the formula applies and are well versed in that area are likely to really understand in detail what the formula truly means. Those who do not have such an understanding may use the formula incorrectly and greatly error in their work. Instead of talking about math as though it causes the relationships that are represented in its formulas, it is better to talk about how the existing relationships between existing entities appear to be fine-tuned to work together to produce the observed effects. It is the multilevel connected relationships between entities that exist in reality that are truly interesting, not the math representations of them. The E=IR formula is showing the relationships between existent entities (the electrons) and two forces, which are the electromotive force that is generated by a field that is applied to the circuit to cause the electrons to flow in the circuit and the molecular field forces, etc. that exist in the circuit materials that resist the flow of the electrons through the circuit. My guess is that many who actually work in electronics do not understand this even to the level of detail that I just gave. Much of the confusion in science today is caused by this lack of detailed understanding even of basic concepts.

          2. The Physical world is what actually exists. Ideas in the Platonic world can be in agreement with what really exists or they can be based on imaginations that have no relationship to what actually exists. In science only those ideas that conform to what actually exists are of any importance. Today there are too many theories that don't have any real basis in agreement with observed reality. The mental world is more complex than most people presently understand. It is possible for a man to believe anything and then to formulate mathematical laws to represent that belief. This would not prove that such beliefs are true to reality. All of our evidence about what reality actually is, comes from our senses in one way or another. Since true science is applied to gaining the true and complete understanding of what actually exists, any ideas that don't conform to observed reality have no place in science. There are currently many concepts such as multiverses, zero-point energy, vacuum energy, etc. that have no real basis in observed reality. Such concepts should not be considered to be valid scientific concepts unless or until supporting observations are made. Focusing too much on such concepts has led to ignoring easily seen observations that give much needed new understandings of such things in the world as the basic material that fields, energy photons, and matter particles are composed of and how that material is structured in each of them to cause them to display the output resalts that are observed from their interactions with each other in the physical world. Since the Creator made the physical world, many things are presented in the scriptures that give information about it and about the Creator also, because he has made images of himself in the structure of the creation. Many people are familiar with man having been made in the image of the Creator and that is true. The Creator is made of three parts, which are his Spirit that generates all of his intents of what he is going to do, his Word that is part spirit and part body and translates the intents of his Spirit into thoughts that can be understood and acted upon by his Body and vice versa, and his Body that acts in the world in accordance with the thoughts it receives from the Word. Man is also made of three parts, which are his spirit that generates his intents of what he plans to do, his soul, which translates the intents of his spirit into thoughts that his body can understand and act on, and his body, which carries out the intents of his spirit in accordance to the thoughts that it has received from his soul. I find it interesting that in current science the spirit has been left out of consideration. I believe this is because the spirit is the highest part of man that controls everything that the man does and is an image of the Creator's Spirit, which controls everything that he does. Those who don't want to believe in the existence of the Creator would rather that man not get information especially about the highest part of the Creator. I have recently come across an image of the Creator in the most basic structure of the creation in the fields, energy photons, and matter particles. The fields are an image of the Creator's Spirit, the energy photons are an image of the Word and the matter particles are an image of the Body of the Creator. Again, it is the fields that science at least appears to know little about. People tend to think that the scriptures do not contain scientific information, but I have found that it contains scientific information that goes well beyond the current understanding of man on this planet. Since the Creator made or founded the creation, he is by definition the foundation of it. He has made many images of himself in the creation, all of which correspond to each other and to him. The Creator made the creation in a hierarchical form in a similar way to the way a man would make a car. It starts with a single material and is built up in stages of increasing complexity from there. This type of structuring allows one to use deduction to get an understanding of things that cannot currently be directly observed by looking at a level that can be observed.

          I have looked at your papers and it appears that you believe that the first living cell could somehow have been produced by nature and that then evolution provided all of the diversity of living creatures that we now observe plus all that did exist in the past, but have died off. When I was young and the state of scientific advancement was that it was believed that living creatures are composed of cells that contained protoplasm, cytoplasm and some unknown life force it seemed to be reasonable to believe that these creatures could have come about naturally and that evolution could have worked to produce all living creatures. As scientific knowledge has increased over time and it has been seen that living creatures are exceedingly complex hierarchical structures, it has become more and more evident that it is not possible for that to have been the case and that intelligent decisions had to have been made in order to build things like the protein machines that enable and control the internal operation of living cells and the production of the programed structure of DNA molecules, etc. It has been estimated that the simplest possible living cell that can do all things that a cell must do to live and reproduce would have to contain at least 200 protein machines. In real living cells these protein machines are chains of amino acids that contain between 66 and over 1400 amino acids. There are over 100 different amino acids. About 80 of them have been found in meteors. There are only 20 amino acids in living creatures, but any random generation of amino acids to build protein machines would likely generate at least the 80 or so amino acids found in nature. Each position in a protein's chain must contain the right amino acid to make the protein machine that will work properly for the purpose it is designed to fulfill in the living cell. This means that if we look at a relatively small protein machine with 100 positions for amino acids each one of which could contain any one of 80 amino acids, there would be about 1x10^220 possible amino acid combinations, but only one of those combinations would build the protein machine needed in the cell. It is estimated that there are only about 1x10^80 matter particles in the universe, so if you used all of the matter in the universe to randomly build amino acids you could only build a very small percentage of the possible different protein machines with chains of 100 amino acids. If you look at it from the DNA side you see that to naturally randomly produce a DNA or even a somewhat simpler RNA molecule that contains the sequences of amino acids for all 200 protein machines in the cell would be even much less probable. It should also be mentioned that not only would all 200 protein machines need to be produced, but they would have to all be produced in proximity to each other close enough to come together into one cell and since the natural environment breaks down complex structures like these, they would all have to be produced in a very short time before any were destroyed by the environment. The only way the right protein machines and DNA/RNA molecules could have been produced is by an intelligent being who understood what was needed and had the ability to make them and put them all together in the cell. Man on this planet still cannot do that, so random generation certainly wouldn't be able to do so either. Someone who could build the entire universe could likely do that, however.

          Evolution is another problem area that has become more apparent as science has advanced. When I was young it was considered that the universe always existed. It was said that stars would burn out and explode to form a large gas cloud, which would over time condense into a new star, etc. Now it is considered that the universe is only about 14 billion years old. This sounds like a very long time, but if you consider that no new species generation from an already existing species has been recorded in man's written history, you would have to figure that it would take at least 10,000 years to generate a new species. Since the earth is considered to be about 4 billion years old only about 400,000 species could have been produced in that time, but it has been estimated that there are currently about 8.7 million species on earth and that does not include those that have been produced, but have now died out. Even if you believe that life could have started somewhere else and then later transferred to this planet, in 14 billion years you could still only produce 1.4 million species. Of course, creating a new species would require many small changes to a current species before the difference would be great enough to become a completely new species and we don't see those changes happening either in existing species. Another problem is that if it took 10,000 years for the first living creature to generate a new species, it would be expected that as the number of living creatures increased, the rate of creation of new species should increase because the copying errors that would ultimately lead to the creation of a new species would increase along with the increase in the population. That being the case, we should be seeing large numbers of new species being formed in short times now, but we don't. On the other hand, if the first new species took much longer than 10,000 years, so that the current rate that is speeded up because of the increase in population now equals 10,000 years, then the total number of species created would be much less that the 1.4 million mentioned above.

          I see that you look at the concept of self-assembly. Most of the self-assembly that actually occurs, such as crystal formation, etc. are not completely internal, but happen due to a change in their environment. This can be a decrease in environmental temperature or addition of a chemical that causes a reaction, etc. These changes do not generate highly advanced intelligent information structures that contain the information to build living creatures. In addition to that the hydrocarbons that the real living creatures are made of do not spontaneously generate such structures either in the environment. If they were created in the environment outside of living creatures, we would see them naturally formed in places without life like on the moon, etc. I had to look at all of these things to make the final decision that there had to be a Creator. Once I made that decision, I began to look at the written information documents that say they are the Creator's words to us. I found many inconsistencies in most of them, but both the Jewish Old Testament and the Christian New Testament, which is a continuation from the Old Testament contain information about the creation and structure of the creation that I found to be more advanced than the current level of knowledge of man on this planet. This told me that those books could not have been created by man here. They have helped me to obtain a better understanding in many areas. An example of this is that most people believe that we are made of two parts, a body and a soul. They believe that both parts are composed of the body's matter. In reality we are composed of a body, a soul, and a spirit. The body is made of matter. The part of the soul that interfaces with our body is made of matter, but the part that interfaces with our spirit is not made out of matter. Our spirit is also not made of matter. People here don't understand these things partly because there are those who don't want man to understand field structuring who have distracted man from seeking knowledge of this area of science through the vagaries of things like quantum mechanics, and exclusion theories, etc., that say it is not possible to understand the structure and internal operations of fields, energy photons, and matter particles. Most people have been programmed to believe only what is told to them to be true by the supposed experts in the field and to get any work to be accepted in the scientific community it must generally conform to those accepted beliefs. This appears to be done to keep man from understanding the Creator because the fields are made in the image of his Spirit (his highest part) and man's spirit is also man's highest part and is made in the image of the Creator's Spirit. This is getting long, so I will stop for now. I hope this information helps you.

          Sincerely

          Paul