The Noise of Gravitons

look at this one for Connes Alain about the Hamiltonian and the symplectic isomorphisms, see also how he utilises the riemann zeta fucntion for the maps and see his analyse with the operator theoretic problem and the conjectures and see his analysis and geometry, this guy is a genius

https://arxiv.org/pdf/1910.14368.pdf

you see now why I like several professionals relevant ? them they are relevant and I utilise their tools and methods for my theory and the conjectures with the spectrum and the oscillations, several good works exist also for the strings , it is this that I try to conjecture , the 3D coded spheres instead of strings. It is not easy but I evolve with the good mathematical extrapolations and partitions, connes has helped me a lot to understand better the maths and the most important, how to create new partitions, because knowing the maths is one thing but createing new tools and partitions and try to play with all is an other John, Wilczek is able to make this in physics but like all has assumptions and all assumptions are assumptions when they are not proved, if it was proved it is the nobel for the gravitons or a field medal and it is not the case, we must prove alsways, it is the only one solution to accept a work. I insist on the fact to learn the works of Connes, he is incredible in maths and physics, the best probably with Caterina Consani, they have permitted me to understand better all these mathematical tools, it is not easy to learn them, but with the time you understand them and after you can link and create your own partitions in trying to converge or conjecture

all this to tell that with these persons, we listen , we learn and we try to understand, they are rational and permit us to evolve , they are not fake ones them , it is sure, they are relevant and are able to doubt also, they don t affirm assumptions because their consciousness and intelligence recognise that we can just accept the proved laws and works, the rest is vain. Hope you understand what I tell John, and hope you shall like these papers of these wonmderful thinkers.

So , well , let s return about the post of Steve Agnew and this ocean of noise for the gravity in the GR , the ocean of gravity like he tells is a gravitation of the GR , with photons and different modes and that does not explain I repeat the quantum gravitation , it is just a noise of a gravitation of our GR due to waves that LIGO has found with interferometry, the collapsing of the waves function is maybe important to analyse with the decoherences and the scalars for a reduction but that does not show a particle of gravitation, the force of gravity must respect the newtonian mechanics and I repeat this GR is not the key, now if we take the ricci flow even and the deformations with these waves fucntions collapsing , that does not change the problem even, see the relevance of the center of mass and the rotation and the deplacement but it is an other story, hope I am clear , the collapsing waves function is just for the interferometry and photons and don t reach a quantum gravitation simply

so it is not the noise of gravitons, but the noise of gravitational waves and they are numerous due to different noises because we have many objects interacting , so lets be serious, they are not gravitons but photons oscillating in this GR, so we can rank these gravitational waves in timee furthermore due to all these objects interacting and furthermore that proves they are not gravitons because they oscillate all differently ..... think about this , they cannot have different size and different oscillations and modes, logic in fact simply, we cannoty confound so the gravitational waves with the gravitons .....simple and evident what I have just explained now

in conclusion and it is important, we cannot confound a photon oscillating differently implying all the different noises and gravitational waves with gravitons wich oscillate and are precise and they don t change, it seems evident like reasoning, the gravitons are not the quanta of gravitational waves if we take a deeper mass energy priniple and the wave lenghts really well analysed, me I want well but think about this ,

well, so the problem was to consider this link , the gravitons are not the quanta of gravitational waves to resume. The noises of gravitational waves, yes, the noise of gravitons no, it is two things totally different in my reasoning, if I am false I will accept but we must prove and at this moment we have no proof still. See well this importance of different noises due to all these different objects in interavtions, colliding or others different in time and space furthermore, the locality and the evolutive time must be taken into account to rank the noises and we must differenciate the photons of graviotons, the gravitational waves are different. If we knew now this anti matter and dark cold matter like the other spacetime and if we knew the effects on this spacetime, maybe we could have quanta of gravitation , and even others gravitatiponal waves , but it is not the same than with this GR and the photons and their modes,

we arrive even at incredible new assumptions about their mass and their velocities and wavelenghts in considering the reasoning that I explained about thje other spacetimes, the cold dark matter and the DE, we have in fact 3 aethers in logic , and we could analyse the non baryonic one for the real quanta of gravitation and even others gravitational waves , and for the DE it is a vacuum energetic probably a negative energy , but it is an assumption, if we understand all this puzzle, we find the road to all our unknowns, the evolution of the consciousness even, the DM, the DE, the quantum gravitation, so why the photons only their modes instead to go deeper in superimposing these two other spacetimes,

I have really difficulties to understand how is it possible that the thinkers that I respect have had this prize considering the explaination that I have given, the gravitons are not the quanta of gravitational waves and the quantum gravitation has nothing to do with this quantum gravitation, it seems evident even generally speaking when we consider the noises mixed and all the modes of this GR oscillating due to these photons and all these objects different in the localities and in the time, I cannot understand this frankly, Of course it is a beautiful paper for the gravitational waves and the noise correlated and all these modes due to a kind of ocean of noises aqnd gravitational waves due to all these objects acting on this spacetime of this GR , but how is it possible to consider the quanta of gravitational waves being gravitons ??? you understand this you ? me frankly seeing the whole and having studied so many papers about this gravitation quant , and having renormalised it, there I need an explaination, the gravitons cannot be correlated with these gravitational waves, it is so evident, I don t know how they give the awards and who vote , but respecting the skillings of these persons , that has no sense there really , all is an assumption and they play with photons and modes and hop a prize ??? I see that thomas edison has created this foundation , could you explain me please this ? I try to understand but I don t understand in fact lol

Well finally...people are interested in graviton phase noise...I cannot emphasize how important graviton phase noise is for any understanding of physical reality.

This pleases me greatly. Noise is such a throw-away concept of Science that simply accepts noise as the limit of measurement...but does no posit noise as the basis of neural free choice. Continuous spontaneous localization depends on some perturbation to collapse a wavefunction.

Graviton noise seems to be that perturbation and yet Science does not yet realize that this is actually the basis of physical reality. Once again, no one that I know believes this except for me...but I believe that one person can change the universe...and am...

What I find relevant is the signals for the noises , and the links with the informations, these gravitational waves carry kinds of informations and we convey them to explain this phenomenom, we have so like a partiton of all these noises acting on this spacetime relativistic, because we see these pertubations and the collapsing of wavefunctions, it is logic in fact , we have the effets of cosmological objects in time and locally and so we rank these waves in function of the noises in time and space respecting the photonic spacetime and this GR, but what I explain is simple, if these gravitational waves are just effects on this GR and that the quanta of gravitational waves are not gravitons but here just photons oscillating differewntly in function of objects and in ranking them in time , so we must be prudent about the conclusions, we cannot affrim that the gravitons are correlated.

we must find these gravitons and their properties , and we must maybe find this conjecture between the strings and the coded particles, let s imagine this, let s consider higher spacetime diemsnions due to strings and let s consider the Kaluza Klein modes and the branes ,and let s consider this general relativity and let s try to consider hiddem variables due to the unknowns that I explained in superimposing these 2 other spacetimes, let s analyse the branes and the dimensions and let s consider these spacetimes superimposed and lets consider the scalar fields in considering these hidden variables for the modes. If the 3 aaethers that I explained are a reality and that the foundamental objects are these 3D spheres in motions and oscillations and if the superfluidity is a reality for the real spacetime made of 3 spacetimes, so we can rank the modes and converge , the real interest is to find the couplings and why we have these different couplings considering the 3 spacetimes.All this to tell that we have an interesting point to analyse for the modes and the mass of gravitons, if their mass is not 0 , that implies relevances for the other spacetimes. That could permit to see better the real perturbations on this GR in detailing better the effects of this gravitation withnthese 2 other spacetimes superimposed ,the scalar tensor theory so becomes more complex and need new parameters.

Even light can be seen as it was at rest. Then retarded light gets very interesting.

Also remember that some noise comes from gravity itself, the fact that we sit in a gravity well here on Earth. Gravity is not gravitation. Gravitational waves are also plane waves, like the em-waves, Lie algebras etc..

There is a long list of different kinds of noises in the LIGO measurement.

If we think chaos, then the Planck measurement of polarizations in different modes get interesting.

Ulla.

Noise is also a carrier in physics. This makes at least me to think about the ether concept, and the finding of gravitational waves may also be seen as a proof for ether. I can be wrong of course...

Remember that the M&M experiment looks ridiculous in the light of its sister analog LIGO that indeed found this difference. M&M does so not prove anything at all because it simply could not do it. It was too small.

Ulla.

Ulla , see the relevance of Kaluza Klein decomposition for the dimensional parts , see the relevance of equatioons superimposed with the 3 main spacetimes , see that the velocities also can be analysed for these particles and that the gravitons can appear if we consider the links with the antimatter and the links with the cold, the modes become relevant for the series finite of 3D spheres , the vacuum space and the two fuels, the mass also can analysed and we can differenciate the GR and the other spacetimes, the convergences with the barnes also can appear and so the conjecture that I explained. The fields, the motions, the rotations and the distributions thermodynamical also become relevant like the rankings of all the properties like the charges, spin, mass, volumes, ....they oscillate these spheres and are in motion....

Newton used the big G like Einstein used the big G, but are they really the same thing?

Also chaos is linked to entanglement and thermodynamics.

The need for a scalar in the standard model is in my mind the secret behind the unification of GR and QM. Higgs did not do the job and it is so far the only scalar we have.

Einstein thought of cylindrical waves as radiation, and they would be linked to the vacuum, hence also to Planck scale, so we could get a scalar all the way from there? This scalar would be unrotated, it only oscillate between time and space as a polarization. It can have different sizes then? It looks more like a phenomenon than an actual particle...

Note that in vacuum the gravitational radiation vanish. But due to its non-locality it still works somehow. Here I think of the non-locality we get with tensgreity.... it only works at the poles. This fits well with a resting wave?

Ulla.

Stewe Agnew.

Graviton noise seems to be that perturbation and yet Science does not yet realize that this is actually the basis of physical reality.

You want to do the polarization between the waves and noise? But also the waves becomes noise by time. I am not sure about this approach. Maybe you think of the spin2 particle, which indeed looks very chaotical. For waves it is a sandwich perturbation? https://www.degruyter.com/view/journals/zna/31/12/article-p1664.xml?language=en

Gravitation is not perturbed, because it is not renormalized, because we are immensed in it, but actually chaos shows how we can understand the renormalization also.

Can you give us some links here?

Ulla.

The real problem seems to conclude that the gravitational waves and the gravitons are linked, like if they were the quanta of gravitational waves, so they are photons oscillating with different modes and they try to unify so the GR and the QM, but it seems not our foundamental reality, the perturbations of wavefunctions are not the problem, they are just gravitational waves, waves simply photonic due to movements of cosmological objects, the quantum gravitation is for me a different reasoning. We need really to unify not only the GR and the QM but all our unknowns, and the DE and DM seem essential at all scales.

You know in studying and reading many papers of the best thinkers and in reading the conclusions of the LHC or the Nasa or others, they conclude that it lacks something to superimpose to reach this quantum gravitation, all the best mathematicians and universities and thinkers have tried since more than 20 years and even in computing mathematical tools, it lacks something to superimpose and there are hidden variables, if we cannot renormalise and quantify there are reasons, the GR and QM cannot be unified in considering only this relativistic spacetime, we need really to understand these unknowns , the antimatter , the DM, the DE and we must unfify all in superimposing these unknowns and find the good partition, if not we shall trun still in round and we shall have just assumptions. It lacks really pieces to superimpose to our GR and this standard kmodel to find the real balances and the real matter energy transformations. The GR is correct of course for our spacetome photonic, it is just that it is not only the one peice of our universal reality, the thinkers can tell all what they want, the relativity is not sufficient to explain these deep unknowns.