The Analog-In, Digital-Out Universe by Edwin Eugene Klingman

Hi Edwin,

I wrote a story on

http://www.fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/647

It's about the planet Maldek that built a Big Bang bomb energy weapon and, well, you can just read the story. I describe how the bomb was made.

The oscillating universe (expanding/contracting) just sounds too contrived to me. A pre-existing universe with a very rare Big Bang event seems more natural. Did God cause the Big Bang, was it a natural phenomena or the ultimate weapon? It's left to everyone's imagination and preference. But the idea solves the conservation of energy dilemma.

"The rotational aspect of gravity (the C-field) appears only after symmetry is broken, then neutrinos appear, then neutrinos interact with the boson/vortices and produce electrons and quarks. These particles bring charge into the picture and then photons appear. "

I want to applaud you for taking a stand on C-field gravity physics. Making specific predictions exposes a theory to attack; only the correct theory survives. All the rest of us get to experience the anguish of seeing our prized and beloved theory die. Lots of theorists hide their ideas in 10 dimension string theory space because they can't endure the pain. In a way, it's like robot wars.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robot_Wars_%28TV_series%29

The trick to building a good theory is to use as few parts as possible; and work with the parts of the theory that survived the last battle.

And if C-field theory survives and photon theory dies, I will cry first, and then quickly adopt C-field theory. I just want to be right going into the next battle.

I'm taking a closer look at Frequency Modulation as a solution to a gravity field Transfer function. My instincts tell me that the fastest repetition rate possible is the answer. When I can write down the transfer function, input and output, I'll post it.

Congratulations Edwin! You made the front page. Just click on HOME to see it. Well done.

Hi Edwin,

I need to draw a picture to show you this. The Big Bang was an energy conserved event because a gravitational potential (negative energy) and an explosion of light (positive energy) both exploded outward at the speed of light. Both add to zero.

But there is another energy conserved event. Photon Theory says that everything in physics can be decomposed into photons and wave-functions. Here is an example of a gravity wave-function.

A space-ship produces

(1) a negative energy gravity wave that travels to the left, and

(2) a positive energy gravity wave that travels to the right.

The spaceship is supposed to ride the negative energy gravity wave. If it rides the positive energy gravity wave, it falls off and gets left behind.

If the space-ship is too big, the gravity wave leaves it behind. If the space-ship rides inside the negative energy gravity wave, it will literally travel at the speed of light for as long as the space-ship remains inside.

It's not a hyper-drive, but the speed of light is still pretty quick.

I need help with the the details. What do you think?

Dear Ed,

Your Master Equation seems to generate the correct types of fields, but I am concerned that these limited fields (G,C,E,M) in 4 dimensions do not contain enough degrees of freedom to account for all known generations of "fundamental particles" - at least an SO(10) of fermions and an SU(5) of bosons. You begin with continuous fields only, and try to insert quantized "fundamental particles", but you omitted talking about Second Quantization, and this is the most accepted method for obtaining quantized particles from continuous fields. I also didn't discuss Second Quantization in my essay, because I proposed that fields and particles are both necessary complementary inverse scales.

Tajmar's explaination of a mass increase in Niobium Cooper-pairs is interesting. Superconductivity has also been implied to be the bridge between electromagnetism and gravitation by Chiao's and Podkletnov's research teams. You mention a kappa ~ 10^31, but Chiao says that a gravitational wave should have an effect of 42 orders in magnitude. I agree with Chiao because this is of order Dirac's Large Number ~ 10^41, which is one of my scale numbers (please see Equation 15 of my book for the relationship between electromagnetic and gravitational couplings). Now we can explain the Cosmological constant of Lambda ~ 10^(-123) ~ (10^41)^(-3) by the fact that we have three spatial dimensions (you said "If scale invariant is motion invariant, time has no obvious meaning"). I think that your inverse square-roots (~10^61) and inverse fourth-roots (~10^31) of Lambda should be replaced by inverse cube-roots (~10^41 - Dirac's Large Number) or by new modeling.

By the way, this variance in Niobium Cooper-pairs is fairly small. A change in the application of Statistical Mechanics may make-up this difference. Please contrast my Prespacetime Journal volume 1 issue 9 paper with Chapter 4 of my book.

You said that the "curvature of space is limited". I agree. At some energy level, we will promote matter-anti-matter pairs out of the Dirac Sea, and this may have a lattice-like "pinching off of Spacetime" effect. I propose that the core of a static black hole may be surrounded by a Buckyball (a nearly spherical lattice that has lattice bonds to resist it from being deflated by the gravitational near-singularity) consisting of the very fabric of Spacetime. The curvature of the Buckyball initiates Spacetime curvature. There is a smooth homotopy between a pair of nested Buckyballs and a lattice-like torus (donut), and this application may be appropriate for rotating Black Holes. In fact, normal Carbon fullerenes (such as the Buckyball) may have superconductor characteristics. Is the Black Hole core a Superconductor? If so, then a rotating superconducting GEM torus would produce a powerful dynamo. That would tie your ideas, my ideas, and Tajmar's, Chiao's and Podkletnov's ideas together...

I still disagree about 4 fundamental particles, but your field approach is interesting...

Have Fun!

Dr. Cosmic Ray

Dear Edwin,

I am not a professional physicist. I am only Scientific American reader. So your essay (maybe very good one) is too complicated to understand and evaluate. Too much equations and professional jargon.

Anyway I wish you good luck!

Walter John

Hi Edwin,

An SO(10) (an abreviation for Spin(10)) represents the 45 degrees of freedom of the fermionic content of the Standard Model. This is the 15 degrees of freedom (e_L,v_L,e_R) (u_L,d_L,u_R,d_R) x 3 colors each per generation times three generations, although the three right-handed neutrinos can be inserted as a singlet group. The Standard Model also includes an SU(3)xSU(2)xU(1) bosonic content. I'm not opposed to your field approach, but I know you have serious problems with QCD (and the triality of generations may be S-dual to color), and I have proposed additional fields such as hyperflavor and WIMP-gravity.

Second quantization is the method for treating a wave as a particle. Without second quantization, you have an electromagnetic field without photons. I still contest that wave-particle duality requires both wave and particle treatments of "light".

You quoted "even after 75 years...quantum field theory remains rooted in this harmonic paradigm" that I call wave-particle duality - blaim it on Louis de Broglie.

The paradox is that particles (discrete CDT-like kissing-spheres) can behave like waves (continuous string theory), and waves can behave like particles, but "scales solve the continuous vs. discrete paradox" @ topic #816. How did you like that advertisement for my essay?

Have Fun!

Dr. Cosmic Ray

Hi Edwin,

I do appreciate that you read what I write.

It is strange that gravity waves have not been detected. Photon Theory still maintains that gravity and space-time are made out of wave-functions. The idea of constructive and deconstructive waves, and interference patterns, keeps presenting itself as a solution to describing gravity and space-time. Yet, we don't observe that. Instead, we observe that gravity fields do seem to mirror the energy within them. But the damping effect prevents (or hides) the oscillations.

It's true that in riding a gravity wave, one does not want to become crushed by it. I'm trying to borrow from particle-anti-particle creation where both particles fly off in opposite directions. According to Photon theory, a gravity wave of this kind has to be made out of a particular kind of wave-function; one that remains stable with a space-ship inside. The spaceship and the gravity wave have to balance each others gravitational potential. Mmm...

Dear Edwin,

You've got me on the ropes with your probing questions. But I think I can answer the question: where are the gravity waves?

Let's contemplate a one dimensional space-time with gravitational potential energy V(x,t) = V_0 cos (kx-wt). Actually, it's a longitudinal wave. Between any two points in space-time, there are an infinite set of these waves (or at least a lot of them). We don't see the waves because there are plenty of terms in the series to cancel out oscillations/deviations in potential energy.

I can't discern any more detail tonight other than to say that time dilation is built into these waves. In effect, when a large quantity of mass-energy builds up somewhere on the one-dimensional space-time, potential energy is pushed negative.

Let me think this over.

Tom,

I do not know if you got further than the opening quote of my essay. Further on I discuss time. It has always been the problem child. To overcome the grandfather and twins paradox and to have causality and understand the arrow of time at the foundational level(or Object reality) everything that currently exists, (which is not the same as everything that can be seen in space time), must exist -at the same singular time-. That is unitemporal time. Objects are not distributed in time at this foundational level only in space. There is no spread across time, no space-time fabric.

However there is still passage of time becuse everything is chnaging spatial position, that is energy or change. The change in sequence of Object universal spatial position allows earlier and later to be considered, which means the change is not now just spatial but change in time. It is not the same thing as the time dimension although both are called time. The temporal distribution comes in when transmission of data such as EM has to be incorporated into the received or image reality.So space time is emergent. This relates to Newton's absolute time and space which you referred to here.

So it is not true that a universe imagined without time dimension is static. It is actually the space-time universe without the uni-temporal foundation that is static and unchanging. To reconcile a quantum probability type model with space time, time has to be understood and put into the model correctly. Passage of time emergent from spatial change in a uni-temporal foundational reality and the time dimension is emergent from transmission delay of data from which the observed and experienced higher level image reality universe is fabricated.

The whole of space-time itself is a reality interface product, an observer effect if you like. The whole universe is an image of reality not the currently existing Object universe. No reality interface, organic or organic no space-time. This is where decoherence of the mathematical superposition of eigenstates comes in. At detection the unique data that allows formation of the image reality is selected.Only when the image reality is formed is it real.

Any field observed in space time has thus to be a temporally distorted version of a foundation unobserved field. It is not what is seen that is real because that is merely a representation derived from the data. Really real is the foundational reality and its topology is spatially distributed only and should not directly fit with the distorted space-time.

Without both the foundational reality and the space-time reality the model is incomplete and that leads to the unanswered questions, mysteriousness and paradox. Only by sorting out the understanding of time, as described, can the two models be united and non realism be overcome. Real donkeys need realism or they would starve due to the mathematicians magic of incomplete information. Also see Julian Barbour's essay in this contest.

"Men Who stare at goats" film 2009 directed by Grant Heslov."Invisibility? Yeah. That was level 3"--"Like ...actual invisibility" -"Well, yeah that was the goal. Eventually, we adapted it to just finding a way of not being seen. But when you understand the linkage between observation and reality, ...then you dance with invisibility."

Dear Edwin,

At this time I don't know the mathematical description of the gravity waves that are suspected to cause gravity to exist. However, I do stick to my guns that they are quasi-existent wave-functions.

Consider any and every physical object in the universe; anything from a space-ship to a car, a person, dog, flee, etc... It is a fact that whatever object you can think of, that objects lies within space-time, and it is subject to the gravity at that location. Now, the gravity in and around that object is some gravitational potential energy. How is that gravitational potential energy determined? That gravitational potential energy is a form of information, and information travels at the speed of light from all points in space. Gravity information comes to us from nearby mountains, the earth, the sun, other planets, nearby stars, etc. Nobody can argue that this information cannot arrive at whatever physical object you've considered.

We would probably agree that gravity does not manifest strings, wires cables or ropes that maintain a continuous physical connection to you, I and every physical object. Yet the gravitational potential energy seems to find you and I very reliably. I would argue that every object is interconnected with gravitational wave-functions which transmit gravitational potential energy from where ever they came from.

In the case of a shift photon generator, I am suggesting that the simple act of broadcasting gravitational potential energy back into all of the gravitational interconnections, that this will change the intensity of the gravitational potential energy along these wavefunctions.

Dear Edwin,

I'd like to say hello and let you know how much I have appreciated reading your comments to other essays. It is always interesting to read your pleasant but insightful encouragement and analysis.

On the first scan of your essay I didn't recognize what you meant by the C field. Now that I come back to it and read it again I am startled by your initial description of "one primordial field." You describe a tangent vector which would make a lot of sense in order for a single field to propel motion that is observed in physics. One extremely nice feature is it would provide an explanation for the laws of thermodynamics without going beyond what can be measured. Of course there would be some reason behind a C field and you suggest possibilities, but I wonder if this could represent the limit of what physics can measure for now anyway.

I wanted to ask about the units in your equations. It seems the equations use more of a system of ideas without specific units, which would be fine. If the math does have specific units I would want to ask more specifically about them in order to follow some of the relations.

Your approach of not taking other theories for granted is admirable and I think you could go even farther. Your analysis of entanglement seems right on. In your comment about not accepting higher dimensions than four, I'm curious if you also could question the concept of space-time by using the C field. Specifically, page 2 describing time is very interesting and I wonder if your description indicates time is something other than a dimension?

I'd like to ask many more questions and hopefully will have a chance later.

Kind Regards, Russell Jurgensen