Is Reality Digital Or Analog? Physics Is Undecided - A Beautiful Universe ToE Offers An Answer by Vladimir F. Tamari

Hello Vladimir,

Fantastic artwork you have in your paper! Very interesting material. It is in my list for study. I will come back with questions.

E. Harokopos

Dear Vladimir,

I enjoyed your essay and diagrams. You clearly have a put a lot of thought and work into it. I would like to encourage you to keep working on it. Your analysis of other theories is hard hitting but I am mostly interested in your ideas. You have a valuable perspective. If you do develop it further (and I think you have the ability) it would be interesting to see equations for how two spheres transfer momentum. I have found this kind of formalism can help refine ideas. Overall I found your essay thought provoking!

Kind regards,

Russell

Hi Vladimir,

I sympathize with the idea that everything (including the vacuum, energy, matter, antimatter, radiation, dark energy and dark matter) should emerge from the interactions of simple units. We have very good examples of complex phenomena resembling particle trajectories or life-like patterns, emerging from interactions of elementary, binary cells arranged in 2-D (Conway) and even 1-D (Wolfram) arrays. Your Kepler packing of magnetic dipole spinning nodes reminds me of Fredkin's theories, e.g. his 3-D Reversible Universal Cellular Automaton model.

The hope of these approaches is to explain the highly complex in terms of the very simple, and I believe that the powerful notion of emergence (in computation) might indeed satisfy this need.

But what I find annoying in cellular automata models, as well as in yours is that you assume (if I understand correctly) an infinite, pre-existing, regular lattice, for the game to start. That's very costly a structure to set up in one shot. Wouldn't it be much cheaper to have the 'ether' structure be built progressively, starting from (almost) nothing? In my experiments with algorithmic causal sets, meant as instances of discrete spacetime, the structure is a directed, unlabeled graph that grows. Depending on the underlying algorithm, some regular, grid-like structure can develop, on top of which localized structures may start playing their interactions; both the 'background' and the actors are produced by the same mechanism.

Also, you attribute some state properties to your nodes, some labels, e.g. spin, in the same way as cellular automata assign a binary state (or ternary, in Fredkin's models) to the grid nodes. Let me just mention that, if one is concerned with (extreme) minimality, there is an alternative approach, that I explore in my essay here: one could try to use stateless, unlabeled nodes, and hope to see everything emerge from the dynamics of the graph growth. Ciao. Tommaso.

Dear Vladimir,

thank you for the pointer to the nice pictures by Descartes, which I had not seen before; in fact, the analogy with fig 4 in my essay is only superficial, since the former provides a 'static' snapshot of the vortices, while the latter is a whole spacetime, in which time progresses outwards. But it would be interesting to derive, at least in principle, the causal set for those cartesian vortices, and see how they would look like...

You are right, the exploration of these models based on the relatively simple interactions of a moltitude of small entities greatly benefits from some simulation, and luckily the software I am using supports such experiments without need of much programming effort (probably less than what you put in your beautiful graphics!).

As for the stateful (as opposed to stateless) nature of your nodes, I suppose what I meant is that even the fact that a node may or may not be rotating, as you write in your reply, corresponds to a node 'state'. A binary state. You may then consider angles of the rotation axis, in which case the state ranges in a continuous set.

Dear Vladimir,

Thank you for your kind remarks on my essay.

I have not been able to understand from your essay how the Born probability rule emerges from your basic constructs. Maybe you could explain some more through posts here? Thanks.

For me the emergence of probability follows by noting that there are fundamental reasons why the Schrodinger equation is modified by nonlinear stochastic corrections during the measurement process.

Best regards,

Tejinder

I am going to have to spend some time with your essay, but it is one with which it is worth spending some time. I have occasionally read that when you study quantum mechanics you are actually studying music. I have some reservations as to this as the currently held notions of music theory are really out in left field - way out. On the other hand, music is physics. It is its own particular physics with its own unique mathematics, which does not include tempered tuning.

Thank you for replying to my essay. When I decided to enter this contest, I did not know what to expect but I am finding out that it really is an exciting exchange of ideas.

I am wondering about that 1954 letter that Einstein wrote to Michelle Besso;

I consider it quite possible that physics cannot be based on the field concept, i, e., on continuous structures. In that case, nothing remains of my entire castle in the air, gravitation theory [and of] the rest of modern physics.

Suppose he is right?

Tom Wagner

Dear Vladimir,

I like your ideas, but need to reread them. These spinning tetrahedra also sound closely related to Gingras' magnetic spin ice quasi-particle analogy to Dirac's Magnetic Monople.

This is a post that I left on my thread @ topic #816:

"Hi Steve,

I was at the beach for the last couple of days. It was relaxing to get away. What if the "sphere" is a Buckyball that surrounds the Black Hole "near singularity", and "spinning" tetrahedra (Vladimir Tamari's basic idea - perhaps of red-green-blue-white "color"?) are situated at each of the 60 vertices (of the Carbon-60 Buckyball). This would yield 240 degrees-of-freedom similar to Garrett Lisi's E8 roots, but we would only have 3 dimensions at each of two different scales (the 3-D buckyball scale, and the 3-D tetrahedra scale). I've always liked Buckyballs, and one of the discoverers of Carbon-60, Sir Harry Kroto, lives im my neighborhood.

In case of a rotating Black Hole, the Buckyball symmetry may not be stable enough, and two nested Buckyballs may transform into their homotopic cousin, a lattice-like near-torus (similar to a lattice-like Tokamak) with spinning tetrahedra at each of 120 vertices. This would yield the 480 degrees-of-freedom of a Supersymmetric model similar to Lisi's.

I need to reread Vladimir's essay, and think more on these ideas."

Have Fun!

Dr. Cosmic Ray

Hi Vladimir,

You asked "whether a buckyball constructed of dipole "rods" has a weak spot due to Brouwer's theorem".

My guess is that IF the buckyball has a weak spot due to Brouwer's theorem, then this weak spot would be part of a hexagon. Clearly, the pentagons have the wrong symmetry for this type of instability, but if a Buckyball is orientated similarly to Figure 2 of The Nature of Dimensions, then it might have a weak spot (and this weak spot might be partially responsible for inducing a triality of generations). If a sphere collapses due to this instability, then the natural new shape would be toroidal. Two nested Buckyballs are homotopic to a torus, so I anticipate that this new toroidal "lattice" should have the equivalent of 120 Carbon sites (although this "lattice" is comprised of the very fabric of Spacetime near the Black Hole "singularity", and not actual Carbon atoms - the same concept as Subir Sachdev's graphene analogy [Reference 12 of the above linked paper] to the Holographic Principle). If we place a spinning tetrahedron at each of those 120 sites, then we may have as many as 480 degrees of freedom on the surface of our torus (plus the frame degrees of freedom), which may be related to an E8xE8*~SO(32) TOE of order 496.

I especially like the pentagon symmetries of the Buckyball (and my TOE), because these pentagon/pentagram symmetries lead to the possible application of the Golden Ratio, as experimentally determined by Coldea et al [Reference 6 of the above linked paper], and as pictorially represented by the appendix figure in my essay.

Have Fun & may your eyes continue to heal!

Dr. Cosmic Ray

Ray, you are going to laugh,It's the Toe fashion ahahahah no but frankly all people has a toe in fact,you are ok with me I am persuaded it's comic in fact.but it's well it's cool to see all that, a toe hihih the war of toes but of course only one is correct ...extradimensions hihih a toe , and the toe of the day is the the theory of polyhedrisation , tomorrow it will be the theory of really everything, and after the next day, the theory of truly everything. hihihi My spherization is 3D is so far but so far ....me and my rationalities ,I am so far.

Best Regards thinkers

Steve

Hi all,

But it's cool to see all these similarities, I am happy that people makes similarities of my spheres and spherization in 3D ...I repeat in 3D...Sill one in 3D....in fact many of these extrapolations are falses, but it's cool.

Regards

Steve

Vladimir,

I enjoyed reading your essay. You raise many fascinating points about the fundamental nature of reality. Your node idea is very interesting. I like how you draw connections with cellular automata and qubits.

Best wishes,

Paul

Vladimir,

Very nice! Our research shares a common approach. In relation to your eight distinct states of spin rotation, I think you might be interested in my result contained in this preprint, sidebar 1, figure S1.1 in which the closed, congruent (mod 12) Sophie Germain prime sequence shows correspondence between the least separated primes (11, 23) and (1559, 1583); (479, 491) and (7103, 7151). Reversing the polarities of these four points gives eight states.

Good luck in the essay contest. I hope you find time to read my entry.

Best,

Tom