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Eckard,

The following argument of yours, which is not even wrong, introduces irreversible confusion in our discussion:

You wrote (Sep. 6, 2012 @ 18:45 GMT): "Not even the speed of a moving car relates to the perception of an observer. Of course, in case of a crash, the velocity between the two bodies matters. However, it is not reasonable to ascribe a possibility to measure the speed of a wave or the speed of a car to an observer. Christian Doppler correctly calculated how the relative motion changes e.g. an apparent frequency. In case of a body, the speed of the emitter re a reference matters. In case of a wave, the constant speed re medium does not necessarily depend on the emitter."

Pentcho Valev

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    Pentcho,

    You seem to intend detracting from the MMX issue. Of course, emission theory relies on it. May we infer that you are unable to explain Feist's measurement?

    I consider what you called "irreversible confusion" just a secondary mistake introduced by Albert Einstein when he postulated that the speed of light is constant without directly specifying what it refers to. He merely excluded the possibility that it depends on the emitter, and by misusing Poincaré's still correct observer-related synchronization he created individual realities of each observer or its inertial system, respectively. I expected Georgina Parrey to clarify: There is only one objective reality and only one true past.

    What does confuse you? Is there at all the possibility that a confusion can never be resolved?

    Eckard

    Dear Eckard,

    I like your excellent essay and appreciate your viewpoint. I wish you good luck in the contest.

    As you know, our community ratings will be used for selecting top 35 essays as 'Finalists' for further evaluation by a select panel of experts. There is a possibility of existence of a biased group which promotes the essays of that group by rating them all 'High' and jointly demotes some other essays by rating them all 'Low'. Therefore, any biased group should not be permitted to corner all top 'Finalists' positions for their select group.

    In order to ensure fair play in this selection, each participants in this contest should select about 50 essays for entry in the finalists list and RATE them 'High'. Next they should select bottom 50 essays and rate them 'Low'. Remaining essays may be rated as usual, if time permits. If all the participants rate at least 100 essays this way then the negative influence of any bias group will certainly get mitigated.

    You may rate my essay titled,"Wrong Assumptions of Relativity Hindering Fundamental Research in Physical Space".

    Finally I wish to see your excellent essay reach the list of finalists.

    Best Regards

    G S Sandhu

      Dear G S Sandhu,

      I apologize for not yet having checked your proposals for experiments because I was unable to open the files. I just wonder why you wrote: "When two clocks A and B are

      synchronized through a GPS satellite in common view mode, their synchronization is effectively equivalent to e-synchronization." I consider Van Flandern correct when he called Einstein-synchronization a de-synchronization. This adopted from Poincaré method is only correct as long as A and B do not move relative to each other. It introduces an unrealistic observer-related view of reality. True simultaneity of events belongs to the objective reality of the objects where they happen, not to an observer who has merely a delayed picture from them.

      Well, there are many strong arguments indicating that SR is wrong. What alternative theory do you favor? I didn't find the words Lorentz and Michelson in your essay.

      Sapere aude gives: Phipps Jr. Dr. Thomas E., Urbana IL 61801, USA.

      Best,

      Eckard

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      Eckard,

      The only speed both relativists and antirelativists care about is "the speed of light relative to the observer". Einstein did not have to specify what the speed of light referred to because that was obvious. If he had known that you would blaim him in 2012, he would have written:

      http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/

      "...light is always propagated in empty space with a definite velocity c which, AS JUDGED BY THE OBSERVER/RECEIVER, is independent of the state of motion of the emitting body."

      Pentcho Valev

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      Initially the observer is stationary relative to the light source. In his frame the frequency, speed of light and wavelength are f, c and L:

      f = c/L

      Then the observer starts moving with speed v towards the source and if v is low enough relativistic corrections are negligible and the frequency he measures becomes:

      f' = (c+v)/L

      If c' and L' are the speed of light and wavelength in the frame of the moving observer, we have:

      f' = c'/L'

      and the crucial questions are:

      c' = ? ; L' = ?

      Pentcho Valev

      Pentcho,

      Meanwhile Einstein's mistakes are almost as boring to me as your refusal to accept that the emission theory is wrong although Newton, Laplace, and Biot were proponents of it. Nonetheless, I used the search function in the Fermilab translation you provided to me and found out:

      You added "AS JUDGED BY THE OBSERVER/RECEIVER", and Einstein wrote (only once) elsewhere "velocity seen by the observer".

      Who receives a wave without any further information cannot at all judge c and L. He can only measure a frequency. This holds for electromagnetic as well as for acoustic waves.

      Again: I am already questioning the interpretation of the MMX.

      Eckard

      Dear Eckard,

      We agree on the power of math to distort physical reality. And you have been a consistent voice in these blogs on the limitations of math as applied to physics. I have made a reference to your views on this in my essay, "The Metaphysics of Physics".

      Since the beginnings of my participation in these forums I have come to respect and rely on your thoughts and ideas. And on your support. I ask you to read my essay and share with me your thoughts on the arguments and mathematical derivations I make in it. Especially my proof of the proposition, "if the speed of light is constant, then light propagates as a wave". This, together with Maxwells result, "if light is a wave, then the speed of light is constant" seems to conclusively argue light is a wave, and not a 'particle photon'. And this naturally infers the existence of a 'propagating medium' and the necessity for CSL independent of the 'source' and the 'observer' (if we consider that the speed of light can only be measured 'locally' to the medium of propagation).

      A point of interest. Eric Reiter in his essay, "A Challenge to Quantized Absorption by Experiment and Theory", has presented experimental evidence for my 'accumulation of energy' before 'manifestation of energy' idea. This played a crucial role in my explanation of the double-slit experiment, if you recall! You may be interested in reading about it.

      Best wishes,

      Constantinos

        Dear Eckard

        I like many aspects of your essay. I agree with you about the flow of time. And I think that it is the idea of infinity that is the real problem with a lot that is done in theoretical physics. As Hilbert said, infinity is an idea needed to complete mathematics bit it occurs nowhere in physical reality. This is related to the idea that in reality, physical *points* (i.e. entities with no extent) do not exist. From Wikipedia on "ActualInfinity",

        "The overwhelming majority of scholastic philosophers adhered to the motto Infinitum actu non datur. This means there is only a (developing, improper, "syncategorematic") potential infinity but not a (fixed, proper, "categorematic") actual infinity". Sounds good to me.

        Where I disagree is your statement "SR is kept more directly justified by the fact that Maxwell's equations are lacking covariance." But Mawell's equations are Lorentz covariant: they were the one part of classical phyiscs Einstein did not have to alter when he developed Special Relativity. That is why for example the transformation between electric and magnetic fields follows directly from the Lorentz transformation laws (see my book with Ruth Williams: Flat and Curved Spacetimes).

        George Ellis

          Daryl,

          I apologize for late answering you questions of 22. Aug. 23:56 in Edwin Klingman's thread.

          Do not blame me for sloppiness in language. With "for observers" I meant as observers may observe it. I did not write "the" observer but observers. Different observers at the same location may observe it differently if they are moving with different velocities relative to the observed at distance object. There is perhaps no decisive difference between "according to" and "as determined by" while I tend to be reluctant using the biased construct "in the proper coordinate system of".

          Writing "time-coordinate of one system" you are assuming that there is no universal time. You are a good fellow of Lorentz/Einstein. I see my Fig. 5 an understandable to everybody explanation why Potier, Lorentz, Michelson and Morley were wrong when they expected a non-null result. This is utterly important in so far it puts Einstein's special theory of relativity in question too. What I cautiously called your weak parts are therefore not YOUR mistakes.

          I consider you quite right: "The past, present, and future don't all "exist" in the same sense". Didn't you read my firs appendix? While the notions past and future exclude each other, the present time belongs to quite a different, deliberately undecided view. To me someone who writes past, present, and future, as did Einstein, does not show that he seriously deals with the role of past and future in physics.

          By the way, the correct spelling in German is not ideel but ideell.

          You wrote:

          (Einstein's) "relativity adds another layer, complicating this picture further, because it comes to mean that together with the dual meaning of the copular verb "is" in relation to the dimension of time, there must also be a dual meaning of the word "time" if the theory should be reconciled with a Heraclitean flowing present. Thus, the common-sense impression of "time" that we have when we consider present "existence" in three-dimensional space---which is what we refer to when we say two events occur "simultaneously"---must be separated from the sense of "time" that's described by any space-time coordinate system."

          I agree with the caveat that only the common sense notion - not impression - of time is necessary as to be concluded from my Fig. 5.

          You added: "This is precisely because any claim that two events occur at the same "time" in the latter sense cannot be universal, since any change of coordinates describes one event as preceding the other; i.e., "synchronicity" is relative." My Fig. 5 implies what other experiments also have shown: We may admit a universal frame of reference and also a universal time: absolute synchronicity.

          If you understood this then you may reconsider your further reasoning yourself.

          Sorry for my disillusioning words.

          Eckard

            Dear George Ellis,

            I appreciate your effort to read my essay and hope my effort was not in vain when I tried to convey an important message with each of my five Figs.

            I have almost nothing to add to what you wrote concerning actual and potential infinity. I already dealt with these questions in earlier essays.

            What about lacking covariance of Maxwell's equations, I was initially confused by two arguments:

            - MMX

            - Maxwell's equations

            Did you read papers by Thomas Phipps Jr. concerning Maxwell's and Hertz's equations? I gave just one reference. Others are easily to be found at Apeiron.

            By chance I have at hand: "On Hertz's Invariant Form of Maxwell's Equations" Physics Essays, vol.6, number 2, 1993,

            Thank you for your hint.

            Sincerely,

            Eckard Blumschein

            Dear Constantinos,

            So far I didn't get aware of many essays with important implications. I have to carefully read your essay as to possibly find something influential in excess of your last essay.

            While my Figs. 1, 2, 3, and 4 are merely improved illustrations of ideas I already uttered in earlier essays, my Fig. 5 is new and hopefully the key to the insight that, beginning with Lorentz, a lot of modern physics has been unjustified speculation.

            Alan Kadin does of course still adhere to what turned out wrong if my Fig. 5 is correct. Nonetheless my gut feeling lets me support his opinion concerning waves and particles, and he uttered what I also am guessing concerning Hilbert space, cf. the essay by Swingle. You were a mathematician. Can you share our objections to Hilbert space?

            You caused me to read and comment on the essay by Eric Reiter. I hope he will reply after reading the essays of Alan and me.

            Best,

            Eckard

            Dear Eckard,

            What I think of Hilbert space? I like it! As a math-think. But not as a physics-thing. But there are more fundamental formulations in physics wrong for physics, in my view. Take 'particle photons' for example. Or the Spacetime continuum. With 'eventpoints' at each 'instant of time', t. I have shown the Second Law determines 'physical time' to be 'duration of time', Δt. This may help explain the 'missing energy' which goes by the alias 'dark'.

            What makes my current essay different is my claim any mathematical model of 'what is' the Universe is metaphysical in essence. The fundamental question is: "why should our mathematical deductions be reflected in our measurements of Nature"? The idea that Nature can be completely described by mathematical models is a metaphysical belief. And in order to prevent physics from morphing into metaphysics, Basic Law of physics should be mathematical tautologies applied to measurements. I show Planck's Law, for example, is a mathematical tautology that describes the interaction of energy measurement.

            Roger Schlafly also questions Math in Physics. And his essay currently ranks first! While mine lingers between 'being and nothingness'...

            Constantinos

            P.S. Recalling an earlier discussion you had concerning the existence of 'negative frequencies', you may be interested to know in my formulation the de Broglie frequency and wavelength can be any real number both positive AND negative. Furthermore, I find no need to use complex numbers.

            Dear Constantinos,

            Math-think is certainly not a typo but your creation.

            When I asked "can you share our (Kadin's and mine) objections to Hilbert space, I meant to how von Neumann introduced it as the space for physical states. You certainly know he wrote to Birkhoff in 1935: I do not believe in Hilbert space any more. Did he put emphasis on believe or rather on Hilbert space? It rarely happens that someone gets aware that his belief is just a belief and utters this as frankly as did Hilbert who was a finitist, see what member Ellis just wrote to me. More likely the crowd looks for remedies like Zermelo's AC or the meanwhile advanced to something valuable renormalization.

            In order to get a more concrete answer I would like to specify my question to include your opinion on Kadin's ideas.

            Concerning your P.S.: I never wrote that complex numbers are useless. In order to understand your notion of positive and negative frequency and wavelength I would need a more specific hint. Let me explain as simple as possible why, in principle, one did not need a negative quantity at all in order to describe reality: How large ever something finite might be, we may shift our point of view to its highest value and look only backwards.

            Best,

            Eckard

            Dear Eckard,

            In my view, Hilbert space is only a mathematical model of physical states. It has no separate physical reality apart from math. As all mathematical ideas, it is a 'think' rather than the 'things' of physics. And as I argue in my essay, I believe all mathematical models of what is the Universe are metaphysical in essence and so will ultimately fail. The only way out of this inescapable truth is to base physics only on mathematical tautologies applied to our measurements. As for your specific request. I have not yet read Kadin's essay and as soon as I do and understand what he is saying I will comment separately on that.

            But I just needed to respond to you concerning my P.S. In my derivation of the de Broglie frequency and wavelength, these are 'rates' (see my essay Endnotes for the derivations). And as rates, they can be any real number positive or negative. For example, my local representation of energy in blackbody radiation is E0 eνt where E0 is intensity and ν is 'frequency' of radiation. Energy in physics is thought to be a 'wave' with a 'frequency'. Imaginary numbers are thrown into the math mix in order to get energy expressed as 'waves'. But I don't believe that is necessary. In my formulation we have an 'exponential of energy' and a 'growth rate' instead. Let me quickly add, I like complex numbers! And I find them very useful in many ways. But I just don't believe they are needed to mathematically represent radiation.

            Best,

            Constantinos

            The 'exponential representation of energy' did not come through in my comment above. It should be E0 exp(vt).

            Dear Eckard,

            OK. I took a look at Alan Kadin's essay. Didn't understand much of it. But here is what I understand. Correct me if I misunderstand. He writes, "a matter wave is a real coherent rotation of a fundamental vector quantum field". I understand 'rotation' and I understand 'vector field'. But what in the (physical) world is a 'quantum field'?

            Alan seeks to change the current paradigm by keeping the same quantum ideas. But only with a new twist. Or rotation! It's a little like keeping Ptolemaic epicycles while talking about gravity. Though Alan may be able to get the math to work out and produce " both particle trajectories and particle discreteness [that] follow from the dynamics of the quantum field", I don't believe more math will fix physics! Only a 'physical view' that makes sense can fix physics.

            I believe I have presented such view. Fundamental to that view is "energy propagates continuously as a wave but manifests discretely in interactions". Clearly this resolves the 'wave-particle dilemma' and the 'measurement problem'. Furthermore, my derivation of de Broglie frequency and wavelength allow these to be any real positive or negative numbers. A new meaning of 'matter waves' is revealed.

            I prefer my naive view to mathematical obstructions!

            Best,

            Constantinos

            Dear Constantinos,

            Having read your new essay now, I felt uncomfortable seeing my name among so many viXra postings. While I like inverted words like cepstrum and I viXra provides the opportunity to publish without censorship, I did not use viXra and I guess, it might be difficult to find valuable papers in it. You quoted me without any obvious indication for having understood any of my criticisms.

            Don't you understand that positive and negative de Broglie frequency and wavelength are mathematical artifacts that can be ascribed to the attribution of a sign to the direction of velocity? Kinetic energy depends on squared velocity and is therefore always positive.

            You complained that Roger Schlafly has been ranking on top while you are allegedly saying the same. I am objecting to his "Lessons from relativity", and these are certainly welcome to the majority. I enjoy that he dared writing "Folly of quantum computing".

            Alan Kadin seems to find not many support because he questions that the photon is a particle.

            Eckard

            Dear Eckard you write, " positive and negative de Broglie frequency and wavelength are mathematical artifacts". That may be true, but does not in any way illuminate the paradox of 'matter-waves' that is at the heart of many discussions here and the point to my last comment. There is nothing real about this view. Just more "mathematical artifacts" which you and I and others have been criticizing! (have I got that part wrong Eckard re:your criticisms?

            In contrast to this sad state of affairs, 'growth and decay' is all real! No "mathematical artifacts" here! And that is what my derivation of the de Broglie frequency and wavelength reveal.

            Your defense of Alan Kadin is admirable! I too support his questioning of the photon as particle. In fact, I mathematically prove in my Endnotes of my current essay the following proposition: "if the speed of light is constant, then light propagates as a wave". Perhaps you have disassociated from my essay before you reached that part!

            Constantinos

            Dear Eckard:

            Thanks for posting this.

            First of all, thanks for correcting my spelling of ideell. I had known that, but I think I confused it with the French.

            Secondly, I certainly wasn't blaming you for sloppiness in language. I think that was your criticism in the previous post, which I agreed was an issue, so I was just clarifying the actual intended use of the word "for", which you pointed out could be taken to mean something else. You wrote, "Do they really happen for observers or do they happen at the location where they happen?" and I agreed it was the latter and that the use of the word "for" is sloppy.

            Finally, most importantly, from the rest of your comments I'm pretty sure you haven't read my essay despite, where I argued *for* an absolute cosmic time, despite your criticism that there are weak points in my view. I've argued that despite the way time passes in arbitrary frames of reference according to relativity theory, cosmology indicates that there has to be one true cosmic passage of time, against which time scales for relatively moving observers. I've pointed out that this means an absolute simultaneity-relation. Such a universal frame of reference and universal time does not---and cannot, according to relativity theory---come to mean absolute *synchronicity*, though. Unless you're denying SR entirely, you can't claim this because according to the theory two clocks in relative motion can't be synchronised: from either one's perspective, the other's rate has to be slowed. However, as I've shown in my essay, this does not mean that there can't be a coherent universal time that defines absolute *simultaneity*.

            Daryl