Dear Chidi,

Thanks for your kind comments on my essay. You take a similar approach, although you note that some resist discussing life or humanity within the physics context. I appreciate your reference to Schroedinger's "What Is Life?", one of the first applications of physical analogies to life, and with startling insight.

You seem to be saying in your discussion of his role as 'constant' that man is the measure of all things. You apply many different concepts, from ideal gas and blackbody radiation to Markov process all of which seem to have some validity.

I very much enjoyed your 'chimps counting' story. You use that punchline well to set up your statement that "perhaps it is time for humanity to count itself in as among the "laws" of nature." And while I have heard the "rules of the game", I was unaware that Snow applied these to thermodynamics.

I believe your discussion of fowl, the 'agric' and the 'native' are analogous to citizens in two-class and one-class states.

Your essay is full of analogies, allegories, and imagination, and is actually as much concerned with philosophy as physics. I agree with you and with some other essayists that science and spirituality are more converging then diverging.

I found your essay a joy to read.

My best regards,

Edwin Eugene Klingman

    Dear Edwin,

    Many thanks for reading this essay. And especially for your insightful comment.

    Wishing you the best,

    Chidi

    Dear Author Chidi Idika

    Sorry because too busy should not come as earlier with your essay .

    Your article shows that you feel a lot of irrationality in science today and are looking forward to get more efficient solution, but it seems you still are not sure with a solution.

    Analysis and your argument is very interesting, I like your choice: "I like to be free to tinker and to have the resources to build my fancy" - because that would create incentives to promote evolution.

    It is true that due to the "automatic" type of my English proficiency make people feel difficult to understand, "the separation by type" that I mentioned in my article simply only means: Cats living with cats and living mice with mice , if want become as the cat or the mouse, that is depending on your choice.

    10 points for your scientific passion along with best wishes - Hải.CaoHoàng

      Dear Hai,

      You are always interesting. Of course the mouse (prey) will always want to become the cat (predator)! And thank you. Also for reading this essay and commenting.

      On the contrary to your suggestion, am very sure of a solution. Am even surprised that people are not seeing this solution I have brought!

      Too many people with solutions of their own! (lol)

      All the best,

      Chidi

      5 days later

      Dear Chidi,

      Extremely interesting essay in the spirit of Cartesian doubt and in the spirit of philosophy Pierre Teilhard de Chardin: «The true physics is that which will, one day, achieve the inclusion of man in his wholeness in a coherent picture of the world."

      Fundamental science , Mathematics and Physics are in a "crisis of representation and interpretation » (T. Romanovskaya), «crisis understanding" crisis methodological grounds . Both these sciences have long been "lost certainty". Empiricism came to its limit. Overcoming the crisis is possible if we introduce an Ontological standard of justification of Knowledge. Need a new understanding of the "Law of Nature" in the spirit of Descartes. Also need essential (ontological) justification "language of Nature" - Mathematics. I believe that we can agree with the conclusion of Alexander Zenkin in his article Science counterrevolution in mathematics : :

      «The truth should be drawn with the help of the cognitive computer visualization technology and should be presented to" an unlimited circle "of spectators in the form of color-musical cognitive images of its immanent essence.» But in order to "draw" the truth, it is necessary to understand more deeply the Cartesian "Cogito ergo sum".

      In order to more reliably steer the future of Humanity must "Great Common Cause", Great Dream, Freedom without fear, Hope, Love.

      I wish you success in the contest and research!

      It's time. We start the path. The New Era and a New Generation demanded action.

      Thank FQXi that brings together people for "brainstorming" on very important topics of modern Humanity and modern Science!

      I invite you to comment on and appreciate my essay.

      High regard,

      Vladimir

        Dear Vladimir,

        Many thanks for reading this essay, and the links are interesting. P. T. Chardin especially. It says directly about my thesis. Thanks for commenting. Yes, this "brainstorming" is useful. I expect it to get even more heated with time. I will be reading your "Protogeometer: Falling into Future" in a few days, looking forward to it.

        All the best,

        Chidi

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        Chidi,

        Your game is up. I hereby denounce you as an alien being. I think the laws of this contest, like those of science (though unspecific on this matter) can be interpreted to exclude aliens. It wasn't your name that gave the deception away but your easy coherent, intuitive and almost complete understanding of nature, way ahead of what we locals call "science".

        Almost no human trained in physics could see; ..."The real problem is that science has gone full cycle to become like religion-consulting some "oracle"." But the final give-away was, in the face of your clear comprehension of how the universe works, your attempt to perpetuate the belief in spookiness and voodoo, i.e.;

        "And the even more disturbing thing is there is NO known logical alternative to the position currently held by quantum theory."

        OK, perhaps it's for good reason. Perhaps we're still too much of a danger to ourselves to be allowed to know. I dare say you're right. But just for the record, and just between you and I, I have found, so know, that there IS a logical alternative. You see we're really not ALL quite that dim. Perhaps you should go back and tell them. Can you give me any good reason why I shouldn't expose you in the meantime?

        You can verify the QM solution for yourself by reading my essay. You'll recognise it immediately. Right before our eyes was an interesting place to hide it. Of course few others will be able to 'see' or remember it even now it's exposed, as it's against their beliefs, but I'm happy to listen to your advice. Is it too early to sew the seeds, and to unify physics. Would that become too powerful and dangerous a tool for man in our present half evolved state? In 2010 I estimated we may have the vision by 2020 (see 2011 essay) but is that too early?

        Thanks in anticipation of your advice.

        Peter

        OK I'll reveal my identity as long as you promise I won't be abducted or have the standard neutering of the critical bits of my neural network.

        (Actually the lack of shoes was a bit of a giveaway too).

        Best wishes

        Peter

          Dear Peter,

          Here you are! I was pre-warned some earthling is sure to go above board; on any issue at all! By the way, realize I hid under the word "no KNOWN logical...." I had you on my to-do list any way because my radar was beeping! Beeping!! Meanwhile, I will need some shoes to hide in, don't you think?

          Bests,

          Chidi

          Hi Chidi,

          Although I thought your essay was a little wordy, I thought you made so many good points:

          "The point is that entities are "gaps" in the scheme of things"

          "nothing can serve as the unit for describing all the gamut of observables known to man quite as accurately as man himself"

          "at the most rigorous level man is its very own uncertainty/principle"

          "This selfishness seems to mark humanity out from much of the observable world; man wants not just to steer itself but the entirety of nature."

          "what is a virtual entity doing in an a science that prides itself on being falsifiable?"

          "So what happens if by some strange twist ideal man is actually the natural unit of action? My guess is that we are humbled, we will tend to want to conserve nature; for then it gets too clear and demonstrable that the first casualty in any of nature's imbalance is us."

          "Must we always want to manipulate or "steer" nature or shall we at some point learn to willingly give in to nature against our own personal (local) interest? Shall we always search for a cure to some yet incurable disease or shall we rather not cure but seek to change our life style? These are sad questions; they are not about humanity's interest per se, they are about nature as some indivisible whole i.e. some "charge conservation law". In this scheme nature determines whose ox gets gored. Or does it? Man wants to pretend that nature does not lord over him but nature does one way or the other, sooner than later."

          "Humanity does need to really technically appreciate the "self" as a valid state of nature."

          "I see a situation where the laws of nations, states and communities are organic (forecast and then endured as are weather conditions and hurricanes today. No more rain making!) Men making laws for men should be looked upon much later in our civilization with disdain. Nations will forecast (seek) their laws not make them."

          Well done, and very relevant.

          Lorraine

            Hi Lorraine,

            Its good to know you read this essay. Your comment shows that you got the gist. On that part about being wordy, can you perhaps give me an instance what exactly you mean? Helps one improve.

            You know some of us here met the English language as second even third language. That means we THINK IN our mother tongue then TRANSLATE to English (am laughing!)

            Many thanks for sharing your thoughts.

            Chidi

            Chidi,

            I'm very glad you got to my essay and thanks for your comments. I'll answer there. Make sure the new shoes are big enough, I have a pair which are almost size 11 which I'll give to you. I gave up barefoot physics due to the hot sand and the need to move on. It seems many found cooler sand a foot down so are chilling their brains with it.

            If you get a mo I offered definitions of detector, observer and measurement in last years essay (scored 2nd but no choccies) which I think is consistent with that of your own species. Do advise.

            Very Best wishes.

            Peter

            (hold tight for a moment)

            Dear Feeney,

            You have said it all!

            Meanwhile, I tend not to like automated communication simply because often the originator cannot in return AUTOMATICALLY and FAIRLY read, comprehend and rate all essays.

            I'll do my best to read your essay because it appears an interesting angle. Personally, I think people should rate essays they can comprehend and leave those they can't.

            Best,

            Chidi

            Hi Chidi,

            Excellent! I look forward to reading your essay too. I agree with you about the strain of reading so many essays which naturally comes from sending out ~150 automated messages, but I think I will be up to the task after my semester ends. I assure you also that all the rest of our communication will be right out of my fingertips.

            When you do get around to reading my essay, I suggest also reading some of the especially good conversations on my page. I highly recommend my exchanges with Michael Allan, Tommy Anderberg, and Robert de Neufville.

            Lastly, I can tell from your bio that you are a fascinating person that I would like to get to know. I hope you do very well here, and that you create the life you have been dreaming of (not just on television).

            Warmly,

            Aaron

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            Hi Chidi,

            I find it difficult enough communicating in one language - it can't be easy communicating in 2 or 3!

            Re "wordy": I just meant that as I was reading your essay I thought that the same ideas expressed in fewer words might have clarified your ideas for me, the reader. But that's just me, and perhaps this is your natural writing style.

            Best Wishes,

            Lorraine

            Dear Lorraine,

            Eventually I agree with you. There were certain portions I myself felt could have done better with shorter sentences. But we all wrote under one constraint or the other. I value your candid observation.

            Also am surely coming back to rate your essay; you can guess what! Because I value your perspective.

            Regards,

            Chidi

            Chidi,

            This is an intriguing essay. You seem to be trying to slice through the Gordian Knot of modern sensibilities, but still end up tangled in them, as the light you sense shining through doesn't quite explain itself. So you trail tendrils of logic.

            Part of the problem, as I see it, is that energy, life, consciousness is dynamic. Yet the concepts, words, models we have to describe it have to be static. So we assign meaning to that which is determinate, set, settled, organized, etc. Then everything in motion must be meaningless, indeterminate, unsettled, uncertain, organized only to the extent its motion can be quantified by direction and speed, rate, amplitude, etc. Even a moving car has no exact location.

            Yet once we establish a fact, it quickly recedes into the past, as new facts keep sprouting up like weeds as all must ride those waves of action. We wish for humanity to be riding some monster wave of its own making and still steering it, but the more we push it and make it bigger, the less control we have, as it is driven from below and those on top only ride it.

            Regards,

            John Merryman

              Dear John,

              I appreciate that you read this essay, and commented.

              Am trying to get a specific picture what you mean. Do you actually think I myself got tangled in the knot I was trying to unravel? :) Could you may be ask a direct question that exposes my situation?

              The way I myself see it, I do not try to proffer some cure-all solution, rather I try to point out the SUREST of dangers hence.

              Many thanks, John. I'll get around to your essay very soon.

              Chidi

              Chidi,

              You do weave a lot of ideas into what seems to be a general theme, so I wouldn't pose a question, so much as make an interpretation. In my own entry, I distinguish between energy and information and go on to propose awareness as a form of energy, always expanding, moving, seeking. While knowledge is the form and information it encounters and gives it shape. Much as energy of youth pushes out, while knowledge of age presses in.

              So what you might describe as certainty, or a classical view, I would see as the structure of information and knowledge which presses in on and forms our awareness. Yet without that essential perception pushing it, it would just collapse, like mass collapsing into a gravitational vortex, but in reality is always radiating energy out to hold it constant.

              Right now the reality described by quantum theorists is like a cult, where you have to speak in the secret language to join, but eventually we will realize it is describing that reality we experience everyday, but which science thought it could distill down to some classic model, yet keeps chasing its tail trying to make it whole and now just obsesses over various contradictions between theory and assumption.

              As I said, even a moving car doesn't have an exact location, because if it did, it wouldn't be moving and the same applies to the subatomic particles making it up. If they were not moving, the car wouldn't exist, so they all must have a blurred position and that is normal. The fallacy was assuming there has to be some exact quality to everything that we can measure and fit into that classical, deterministic view.

              One of the points I keep making is that time is not so much a vector from past to future, as it is the process by which future becomes past. For example, the earth doesn't really travel some fourth dimension from yesterday to tomorrow, rather tomorrow becomes yesterday because the world turns. It is only because we exist as points of perception and so experience it as a sequence of events, that we think this 'point of the present' moves. Obviously it is the events being created and dissolved.

              This makes time much more like temperature, than space. Time is to temperature, what frequency is to amplitude. With temperature, we think of the average of lots of velocities/amplitudes, but with time we think of the specific measures of frequency, since we experience events as singular. Yet there is no universal rate of change, simply the overall effect of lots of little changes. That is why different clocks, like on the ground and a GPS satellite, can run at different speeds, yet stay in the same system.

              The faster clock doesn't move into the future quicker. Since it ages/burns quicker, it falls into the past faster.

              Events are not determined before they happen, because all the input only occurs when they do happen. Probability precedes actuality.

              I could go on, but the point I'm trying to make is that physics has created an elaborate structure on some questionable foundations and you seem to be making a lot of sense in trying to relate what they say to how the world really works and that requires clarity of vision.

              We all are tangled by this information. Even the words we use are a form of entanglement, but we try to see into them and sense their deeper meanings.

              Regards,

              John