Dear Vladimir,

As Abraham Lincoln said, "You can mislead some people permanently or for a while all the people, but you cannot fool all the people all the time ..."

I fully agree with your conclusions in essay

If we consider that it is the metaphysics shape public opinion through the media it is a real danger that an adequate conception of science, its methods and ways of existence in the public mind will be replaced by substitute of abnormal knowledge.

As stated by well-known philosopher of science Karl Popper, modern physics is characterized by crisis of understanding, the occurrence of which is related to: a) the penetration of subjectivism in physics; b) with the conviction that the quantum theory contains the complete and final truth.

    Alexander and Tatiana,

    Thank you for your comment and evaluation of my ideas. I believe that overcoming the crisis of understanding in basic science is possible only if the perceived support of various gnoseological paradigms. This crisis is a metaphysical crisis in its deepest essence, crisis knowledge foundations. Appropriate to recall here: «An educated people without a metaphysics is like a richly decorated temple without a holy of holies.» (G.W.F.Hegel)

    Today, to select a right course is not only for fundamental science, and we need to understand ourselves ("hard problem of consciousness") and understand the Sun language, the language of the Cosmos (super hard problem of foundations of mathematics and knowledge in general).

    Good luck!

    Yours faithfully,

    Vladimir

    9 days later

    Dear Vladimir,

    Thank you for your gracious remarks on my page.

    You begin,"But how can we see the world in integrality, the world as whole?" and note that the ontological meta-paradigm, Universum as a whole, has been pushed into "philosophical backyards" of science. I agree that "the physics of particles informs us, strictly speaking, on fundamental structures of the nature, but not on fundamental particles." Yes, the 'particles' are much more abstract than 50 years ago. This is extremely well stated and agrees with my observation that physicists have projected mathematical structures onto reality. Of course the great scientists were religious. They were not one-dimensional, merely focused on 'points' as convenient simplifying concepts, that facilitated applications of set theory, etc. This is probably as far away as one can get from the "The Self-Aware Universe".

    I always enjoy your essays, focused on the reality of consciousness versus the artifice of interpreting symbolic structures as reality.

    My best regards,

    Edwin Eugene Klingman

      Dear Vladimir,

      It is nice to see you in the fqxi contest again!

      I share with you your concerns about the state of fundamental science; however, I am not sure that I would accept all your recipes to resolve the crisis. For instance, the idea of an "Ontological standard" sounds a bit scary for me, reminiscent of totalitarian schemes. You write, "What way should we choose for overcoming total crisis of understanding in fundamental science? It should be the way of metaphysical construction of new comprehensive model of ideality on the basis of the "modified ontology"." What could be a criterion of truth for such "models of ideality"? In general, I like your text for the bold questioning and anticipations, surrounded by very interesting citations. I am giving you one of my high scores.

      Cheers,

      Alexey Burov.

        Dear Edwin,

        Thanks so much for your comment. I believe that in fundamental science (physics, mathematics, cosmology) have to work at the same time at least three paradigms: 1. A generalizing meta-paradigm: ontological (metaphysical) paradigm - "the world as a whole"; 2. Plus competing phenomenological (parametric) paradigms.

        So, for each level of existence of the Universe. Physics "rested" against the nature of the fundamental constants, the nature of the "laws of nature", structure of space, the nature of time, information, consciousness. This is the metaphysical (ontological) problem, basification (justification) of knowledge. This problem can be solved only by a new metaphysics ("modified ontology"). The crisis of understanding is not only in basic science but also in philosophy.

        Physicists, mathematicians and philosophers must now work together to "dig" deep the base of knowledge (framework, carcass, foundation). I think that here it is necessary to recall Hegel's philosophical metaphor: "An educated people without a metaphysics is like a richly decorated temple without a holy of holies." It just gives direction to solve the problem of construction the "The Self-Aware Universe".

        Good luck in the Contest!

        Yours faithfully,

        Vladimir

        Dear Alexey,

        I am also glad to see your essay in this contest!

        Thank you very much for your comment. Today, physicists introduce hypotheses without philosophical foundation. These hypotheses can not be verified experimentally. In particular, the hypothesis of a "big bang", which has quite a lot of opponents . Therefore, to overcome the "crisis of understanding, "crisis of interpretation and representation ", "trouble with physics" required ontological standard of basification (justification) on the basis of ontology ("modified ontology"), which establishes the common basis of knowledge (ontological framework, carcass, foundation) uniform for all levels of existence of the Universum. Here the key idea - the total dialectical ontological unification of the matter along the "vertical" of being. The criterion of truth for the new model of ideality - seeing language of nature, which speaks to us in the language of mathematics - "triangles, circles" (Galileo). Today is needed most profound dialectical ontological interpretation of the "triangle" (Plato's " heavenly triangle"), "circle", "point". Philosophy, "the mother of all sciences", helps to overcome the crisis in the knowledge and fear. You know it well, since you are looking for the deleted meanings of being.

        I start reading your essay.

        Yours faithfully,

        Vladimir

        Dear Vladimir, as I said, your "ontological standard" sounds like a totalitarian project. I think it would be good if you show how it might avoid this. Another problem I see in your approach is that I do not think that mental world can be adequately presented in the language of mathematics or similar objectivistic language.

        Cheers,

        AB.

        Dear Alexey,

        The ontological structure of being of the Universum as a whole can not be "totalitarian project". It may be only a "total project", based on the fact that Tot / Θώθ - the god of wisdom and numeracy, the patron of sciences, scribes, holy books, calendar creator in ancient Egypt. But the hypothesis of "The Big Bang Theory" and the system of views on the Universum without any justification of the ontological structure of "beginning" - "totalitarian project".

        I do not share the triune world to "worlds" as did Penrose and Popper. I entered the central category of the structure of the Universum - "the ontological (structural, cosmic) memory and presented the primordial structure of the Universum in the form of simple mathematical symbol. Each mathematical concept - object, which is used in the ontological construction - "point with germ of vector", "vector of absolute state of matter", "ontological heavenly triangle (Plato)"- has the deepest (limit, extreme) ontological interpretation. With this I decide two key science issues: super hard problem of the basification (justification, substantiation, foundation) of mathematics (knowledge) and "hard problem of consciousness".

        Cheers,

        VR.

        Dear Vladimir ! You embarked with J.A.Wheeler's call for a physics of human consciousness and you introduced your hypothetical construct of ontological memory as being the cosmic matrix of consciousness. Advancing consciousness is,therefore, an extension of the ontological memory of the self; this can best be done by tuning in soulfully with the cosmic memory (the Logos or eternal vibration of perpetual re-creation); such a harmonic life style will lead to the onto-logical stage of absolute simultaneity which means that eternity is now.Take this a my reader response; cordially: stephen

          Dear Stephen,

          Many thanks for your deep comment and understanding. You give profound philosophical eidoses, concepts, and the way to overcome the total crisis of understandingin in the fundamental science and global society, deep existential crisis of humanity. Yes, we earthlings, have to make a sharp turn in the thinking. I think that mathematics and physics will be able to overcome the crisis. Sincerely, Vladimir

          You are absolutely right, Stephen! And philosophy, "the mother of all sciences", is to bind and embrace this solid foundation and framework of knowledge. We, humans must always bear in mind the philosophical covenant of J.A.Wheeler: "Philosophy is too important to be left to the philosophers"

          Dear Vladimir, You wrote a good philosophical the review in the style of the essay.

          I've been looking for in philosophy, the answer to the question: "What is the matter?" and not found. The only thing she stubbornly repeated, matter exists in space and in time. At some point I suddenly realized that this is a false statement. It would be correct to say that matter creates space and time. I think it would be a great addition to your essay. I will give you a high ball, when i learn to do it accurately

          Boris Dizhechko

            Dear Boris,

            Many thanks for your insightful comments. I agree: «It would be correct to say that matter creates space and time.» ... Our task is only to establish the ontological structure of matter, then, accordingly, the ontological structure of space (the ontological space) and its geometry, and then - the nature of time. I'm starting to read your essay with great interest.

            Sincerely, Vladimir

            Vladimir,

            Almost breathlessly packed with ideas and information, quoting philosophies of old that should replace a lot of current thinking. Physical things alone do not render understanding. "Today we demand of physics some understanding of existence itself."

            "Mattersoul" truly brings the mindless math laws and "actual entities" together into goals giving meaning to life. That is really a difficult concept to bring together. I pondered for days trying and am not satisfied with my effort. You parade much thinking before the reader -- ideas that lend wisdom.

            I like Whitehead's thought that the "actual world is a process which is the becoming of actual entities." Concrescence is profound in the human thought of the embryo coming together in a seemingly miraculous process of human birth.There is the "generation of individual urgent entities, each having absolute consciousness," and Florensky's "the more solid any system of thought is the more specific is determination of the space as the kernel of this system."

            I make a similar metaphoric use of the human fetus and theories about the growth of the early universe modeled in similar amniotic fluid.

            Hope you can check out my essay.

            Regards,

            Jim Hoover

              Jim,

              Many thanks for your insightful comments. Indeed, way out of the contemporary "crisis of understanding" in basic science give us an idea of the outstanding mathematician and philosopher Alfred Whitehead Norton and philosopher Pavel Florensky. Today we need a deeper look at the matter as the eternal process of generation of the material - ideal structures, as "nurse", "godmother" (Plato). Only then we will understand the "soul of matter", including "atom", will understand the direction and purpose of the process of generation of structures.

              I enjoy getting to read your essay.

              Regards,

              Vladimir