The Nature of Time

I should have said extra dimensions.

Hi Jim,

I think the same about the extradimensions. It is like a fashion now inside the theoretical sciences community, it is due mainly to strings , Mtheory, Superstrings or the geonetrodynamics with points and with the geometrical algebras, they consider all now in majority that we have extradimensions, it is also due to their philosophy considering only the photons and strings or ppoints inside in 1D oscillating vibrating connected with a 1D cosmic field of this GR. So with the maths of strings they have extrapolated 10d, 11d,26d .

I don t understand to be frank why this fashion, maybe they are in a prison due to these photons and GR alone and they believe that a kind of god or a mathematical accident creates the topologies , geometries with these fields and extradimensions. Personally I have found enormous ontological and philosophical rpoblems considering this philosophy. In fact these tools in maths about the extradimensiobns are just tools, like we have create the geometry in 2D with the squares, triangles.... they permit to better create architectures or others but the universe and our reality is always in a pure 3D , so I consider these extradimensions too like simply tools wich are not really reals in our pure 3D. Now they have difficulties these thinkers to return at this old school of our pure 3D and the motions of particles. Clifford, Lie, Hopf are relevant tools for our quantum fields, the problem is not there, the problem is to generalise this GR and geom alg and fields like the cause of our quantum mechanics at my humble opinion. I beleive strongly that the fields are emergent, not the particles wich are in a superfluidity and permit the emergent baryonic matter.

But these thinkers have learnt a lot at the universities and the strings are teached even for their PhD it is very odd because they are an assumption generally and philosophically speaking.

They cannot change their lines of reasoning now, they are persuaded and endoctrinated I must say, Einstein and Witten have created a philosophical prison and now they turn in round inside , I am a problem with my theory but that could converge in unifying the DE, the DM, the GR, the QM, the QFT, the strings and these pure 3D spheres, but they don t recognise this due to this endoctrination and the vanity. Regards, friendly

Hi Steve,

Why look for non-existent problems? For what reason should time exist? Earthly rotation provides an explanation.

Personally Jim, I am not very interested to search problems with this time in the sense that I consider it like just a scalar , a quantity and wich is irreversible . I agree with you in the sense that in fact it does not really exist, so the thinkers focused on the time in trying to check it or in thinking that we can travel in time for me loose their time lol ironically speaking. There is nothing of odd about a thing simply correlated indeed with the motions like a duration of evolution.

What if we lived on the dark side of the Moon? We would never see the Sun.

We would see a black sky of stars. We would always in the dark!

Would we still cling a firm belief in time as some kind of real thing?

I wonder if we would believe in extra-dimensions?

Hi Jim, 'dark side' is really a misnomer. It means obscured or hidden from sight, or unknown rather than literally permanently dark. Far side is a better name. Dark side of the moon : )

Hi Georgina,

Or we could call it the Cold Side? It certainly is at minus 173 degrees Celsius, which is minus 280 degrees Fahrenheit!

On the Hot Side it`s plus 127 degrees Celsius, which is plus 260 Fahrenheit!

We would see the beautiful blue Earth rotating against the enormous black sky! We would set our 24 hour clocks in calibration to the Earth`s rotation.

When there are towns on the Moon, there will be Earth time based on the Earth`s 24 hour rotational period, and Moon time, based on the Moon`s 28 day rotation.

Hi Jim George, Amrit, Georgina, Steve

Isn't time simply using a constant, steady motion (like that of the earth) to measure other motions with?

Much the same as using a specific amount of space (yardstick or mile) to measure space.

More at MEDIUM.

Hi David, I think it is useful to separate timing with any kind of clock from ideas about what time is 'outside of timing. A clock generates regular events which are counted, or could be. Which are used for comparison with other events or processes. Planetary motion can be used as the regular event. A time, by my way of thinking, is a configuration of existence. Faster and slower rates that can be timed correspond to more or less change happening to parts of the complete configuration of existence.

Woodward, are you an A-theorist or a B-theorist? And a Presentist or an Eternalist? How do you incorporate the relativity of simultaneity from Relativity?

Hi Vesuvius Now, Not an A theorist OR B theorist. I want both series under my own terms. B for existential realty and A for derived observation product reality.. Rather than such an event being future, Present and past, it is not yet received sensory inputs, observation products and then records, including memory.

I'm not a Presentist exactly. I'd say a Uni-temporalist, as I think material reality necessarily precedes present awareness of it. Due to the non infinite speed of light and signal transmission delays. Relativity of simultaneity comes from the different amounts of Foundational time (change of the configurations of existence) it takes to reach the observers at their locations. Then input, when received and processed, is experienced in the observer's own Present.

Thanks for asking.

You'd probably be interested in this paper by Rovelli: "Neither Presentism nor Eternalism" at https://arxiv.org/abs/1910.02474

Yes interesting. Quick look. Will read later. Carlo does not differentiate existential material becoming (-Now), from what is experienced now ( Present observation product OP).OP Which is not Object (noumenal) reality but Image (phenomenal) reality. I.e. What is of itself and what is derived from sensory inputs that have emanated from material sources. An observer's Present does not have to be local. Observation products are generated from whatever the sensory inputs received. Distant starlight and nearby owl can be part of the same observer's Present. It has taken longer for the starlight emitted photons than owl reflected photons to arrive at the observer. So the content of the observation product has temporal spread. Mot matching the uni-temporal (one time- youngest configuration only) material reality environment. Carlo says the A series is not needed.| I can be adapted as outlined in last post, within but not material existence.

Correction Not not Mot, and It not I.

Perhaps I should explain "within but not material existence." better. I was trying to keep it brief but at the expense of accuracy. There is no material future or past. EM r and other potential stimuli are of course material and exist but what is encoded is not. That may be regarded as the observer's potential pre-written future. As it could lead to the recipients Present experience of it. Which is also not material reality. Nor is the content of records and memories. Although the means of storage such as books and neurons are material.

When we establish a town on the sunlit side of the Moon, where it is 125 degrees Celsius, we will stay under glass.

Heating and energy is no problem. Water, air, and fuel will be produced locally.

It`s sunlight all the time on the bright side of the Moon! Sunlight and lethal heat 24/7. Np seasons either!

When we establish a town on the Dark Side of the Moon, where it is minus 173 degrees Celsius, we will stay under glass.

Heating and energy will be a big problem. Water, Oxygen, and fuel will be produced locally.

It`s a beautiful starry sky, forever, on the Dark Side of the Moon! Night time and lethal cold 24/7. No season`s either.