Quantum Physics and the End of Reality by Sabine Hossenfelder and Carlo Rovelli

Georgina Woodward
Relativity applies, There really is not one correct or true state description obtainable but the state description obtained for an object or particle depends upon the viewpoint used to obtain it, the 'seen like this; proviso that affixes the outcome to the context in which it was obtained. it is a relative product that can be imagined in 3d product space but that is not where the particle, an actual physical entity exists.
The 3 orientations of detector, when used can be thought of as 3 viewpoints. Each gives an outcome that describes the binary feature investigated as it (most closely) seems from that way.
of 'looking.

Georgina Woodward
The space and time of the product is relative, pertaining to the viewpoint and time reckoning of the observer. The existence of the observed or 'measured' is absolute. Time of existence (observer independent) is sequential and uni-temporal.
Interaction of the apparatus with the measured entity, by using apparatus such as Stern Gerlach apparatus or polarizers is unavoidable. Leading to alteration of the absolute condition of the particle in its absolute environment from what it was prior to interaction. For this reason retesting the particles with an orientation of detector used prior to last different orientation does not reproduce the same response as the last time that orientation was used.

Georgina Woodward
To just think of different polarizer or Stern Gerlach apparatus angles as different viewpoints is not enough, the term 'viewpoint' does not really capture what is going on. Its more like 'conclusion' based on received output. The apparatus isn't answering questions about the input. It is producing an output that is different from it. The question; what do we get out when ;looked at; this way?. is more appropriate.. A macroscopic analogy is using 3 different light filters to look at white 'light 'input received by camera detectors beyond the filters. The cameras do not describe the white light input only the different colours of output light . All are correct in their conclusion according to their particular filter used.
Polarizers and Stern Gerlach apparatus can be thought of as very simple reality interfaces. Taking in the input and changing it to a different output. So we are looking at the product not the raw input.

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@"Georgina Woodward"#p16729
Measurement is not the correct term, the polarizers and the Stern Gerlach apparatus , it is obtaining a result so conclusion is sort of appropriate as conclusions come after results but modifying intervention is closer in meaning.

As mobile organisms, this sentient interface between body and world functions as a sequence of perceptions, in order to navigate, so our concept of time is of the point of the present moving past to future. Physics codifies it as measures of duration.

cristi marcovici
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The problematic issues with quantum physics;
Lack of Object permenance,
Lack of observer independent existence ,
Both leading to vulnerability to illusion.
The 'seen this way' relativity of measurement and observation.
The measurement altering the measured so outcome is effected,
superposition of outcome states rather than absolute singular state without yet applied relative perspective.
The illusion of entanglement due to ignoring observer independent existence.

cristi marcovici
The two possibilities you mention are like Schrodinger's cat and Many World's interpretation. Superposition of possible outcome states, in the theory, stands in place of observer independent singular, absolute reality when no reference frame for measurement or observation has been applied. Which would give the limited, relative outcome state. Not You, nor cat, can be both alive and dead, so don't kill yourself to check.

Local realism :This term refers to the idea of locality of cause and effect. I.e only near objects can be effected by touching each other or inter mediating matter or field.
Realism is about being, (as it is), independent of human thought ….
“Generic Realism:
a, b, and c and so on exist, and the fact that they exist and have properties such as F-ness, G-ness, and H-ness is (apart from mundane empirical dependencies of the sort sometimes encountered in everyday life) independent of anyone’s beliefs, linguistic practices, conceptual schemes, and so on.” (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy )

The reference frame of the observer is established for /by that observer. The relation of the 3 dimensions to each other is fixed and that relation is imagined superimposed onto seen 3D space. Allowing description pertaining to orientation of things, (including apparatus) seen within it. It is an artificial procedure. The superimposed orientation of the 3 dimensions, in fixed relation to each other, upon 3D space is variable according to orientation of the observer. The orientation of the superimposition of the3 dimension, in fixed relation to each other, is not determined independent of human thought, by nature.
Prior to observation, or measurement involving orientation of apparatus, there can not be a definite relative outcome state, involving orientation, because the outcome is a relative determination.
That does not mean that the subject under investigation does not have an orientation within the pattern of all currently existing things. Which is different from one singled out and described relation. This is showing the error of both QM and ERP. ERP is wrong for assuming the relative outcome is predetermined before measurement, prior to the choosing of individual viewpoint. QM is wrong for not considering absolute observer independent orientation of the subject, and therefore a pre-measurement relation of orientations of a particle pair.

Georgina Woodward
I want to clarify what i meant by "in fixed relation." I want to covey that the 3 dimensions are orthogonal to each other, that is unchanging. So as the orientation of one of the dimensions is altered all 3 dimensions change orientation, maintaining their relation to each other.

Georgina Woodward
[Currently realism in physics is about there being observer independent relative states in 3D space prior to measurement or some ‘hidden variable’ determining what the measurement or observation outcome will be. As if the relative result is observation independent. Not taking into account the role of the experimenter viewpoint (seen this way’) in determining apparatus or observer orientation. A ‘modified-realism’ term to refer to there being observer independent absolute condition prior to measurement, which together with the viewpoint imposed determines the relative outcome and it’s description.]

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ACVV
Will the data survive but become inaccessible.
Operating systems keep changing.
My desk top has stopped working

ACVV
Yes, in other words.The idea is intact. I think "remains'' is ambiguous there , because it is unclear if you mean more like sitting or placed or whether it is meant like enduring, continuing in relevance. I'd rather after it's temporary use in physics it was dispelled, having no physics equivalent happening in existential reality