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Objects that are too big to cause quantum effects may have the vibration of individual particles masked by the thermal vibration of the whole object.
George Ellis on EXISTENCE
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What I mean by this statement;
A cooling macroscopic object for example, can be thought of as sheding infra red photons. As they are released to the environment from the cooling object, their motion (The photon particle's motion ) will cause waves in it. Even if divided and recombined, the resuting interference of the waves will not be strong enough to effect the position of the macroscopic object. Only the macroscopic object s condition is considered..
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The solution to the measurement problem is applicable measurement is made. Having applied a certain reference frame or chosen orientation of apparatus . Particles created as a pair have an orientation that they aquire during the process of making a pair, there is no need for superposition, wave function, or its collapse. In either case we are dealing with a ''seen this way '' outcome. The state isn't just then becoming a material reality, appreciated via the forming of observation products or experimental results that can be appreciated via the senses. The state can be described and commiunicated because of the relatioship formed with the oberver or the relationship between the existing orientation of particle and a certain orienttation of apparatus. This goes back to the double slit expriment (Young ). Particle waves were selectedas the explanation rather than wave properrties of the substance filling space. Also able to explain the findings.
As Sabine Hossenfeldser says in her video. Chaos is a problem for quantum mechanics. This has been known about since 1950s. Chaos is modelled by a non linear equation but the equations of quantum mechanics are linear. The equations of quantum mechanics therefore do not agree with obsevation, It can appear to correspond upto the Erhenfrest time limit (How long there is correspondense between the quantum system and the classial description )but then will disagee. To try to overcome the problemit is said that Hyperion as an example of a chaotic system (being effected by dust and photon particles hitting the moon, changing its motion ever so slightly.) By frequently updating the chaotic equation is replaced by tiny
linear processs ,frequently taking account of interaction with the environment .This is an example of so called decoherence.
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I tried to link Sabine's video here .
"Chaos the real problem with quantum mechanuics"
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The equation for a superposition (values from surface of a bloche sphere or state space) is a mathematical structure represented in a mathematical space called Hibert space not a material object in 3 d space or 3+1 space-time ,Space and time used by Newton orr space-time used by Einstein. They are too different to be recconsiled. We don't have anadequate way to describe the superposition before collapse using words
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Science should not propose an explanation for a happening ,a phenomenon or entity that is entirely unknown in type, not adequately describable by the English languagr ands unlike any thing else in existence. The same happenings can be explained by waves. They are divisible can be recombined causing interference .That interfererence could potentiallyt effect the location in which the particle is detected. It just needs the void not to be empty but filled either with a very fine grained substance, smaller than the particles we know-maybe "quark soup". Or even less structured being a uniform consisteny and continuous. This overcomes the issue of spooky action at a distance , and how light is transmitted without a medium to host waves.
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Quantum mechanics is a mathematical pseudoscience , There is no reason to accept it anymore than other imagined things imagined to have causal power , especially since it comes with so many problems.
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Entanglement is not something that really happens. it was suggested by Einstein as a way to explain what is an artifact caused by using hypothetical superpositions of state, which only have definite location and value upon measurement or observation. It explains why under such circumstances the second measured particle has just the right state ,as one would expect of a partner even though it has just becomea singular particle according to that theory. Entanglement is not part of the real material Universe. That is the universe of real existing things. There is no need for it ir the alternative wave theory is used.
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Why do inteligent people who claim to be physisists treat quantum physics as if it is real science. Physics is meant to be natural science ,explaining and modeling the existential World/Universe. Unlike pure mathematics,not grounded by existential considerations. Almost anything that can be imagined can be modlled by maths, freed from the constaint of having to be part of what does or has existed. A superposition is unlike anything known. So difficult to accurately describe with words because, we are told it is, though foundational, not a part of our experience, which words descibe, limited to the macroscopic and astronomic scales.
Waves. however, are known at many scales ,as is a varity of substances that act as host to wave happenings within them. The substance filling the voids does not show itself by reflecting light but allows it's transmission though it. The double slit experiment of Young is evidence of its existence. Prior experiment has failed to provide the evidence of it's existence. But that is not proof of non existence .It just took time to find the right experimental proof and to understand what was being shown. That the voids are filled nmakes sense. Nature abhors vacuum we are told. Action at a distance is hard to explain without it, The structued interior of particles may also benefit from this explanation.
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A feature of nature is the occurance of fractal patterns. within the complexity ,the same processes are happening at different scales producing simiar looking results. QM is not like that. It asks for a scale unlike any other. Where there is non locality but not encountered elsewhere at other scales. Where superpostions are modelled to behave unlike the rest of nature.
Waves are known at different scales. They don't require suspension of disbelief.
From Google AI Overview
'' Occam's razor is a problem-solving principle that states the simplest explanation is usually the best one. It's also known as the principle of parsimony or the law of parsimony. ''
Georgina Woodward
The phrase 'self similar is' sometimes used to describe the occurance of fractals or their quality
having been identified in a process that generated a fractal or the fractal product.
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It is unlikely that the very small quantum scale is utterly unlike larger scales, That non locality applies to the smallest scale but not elsewhere and is not known from larger scales; It doesn't fit with self similarity found throughout nature.
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Yesterday I watched a video of Tim maudlin, in which he was very disparaging of Kants idea that things can exist of themselves and was unsympathetic to Einstein's Relativity needing a priori existence of matter unlike quantum mechanics which Einstein really didn't like, particularly because of 'spooky action at distance'. I would at the very least give the name and where abouts to find the video but I have been unable to relocate it. I have found that Tim Maudlin is in a lot of videos spanning many years which I have also enjoyed watching.
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I. Kant was on to something .He realises the need for an obsever independent material existence as well as what we are aware of, our relative perception, but doesn't really explain why this is neccessary.
The necessity of apriori material existence before observer involvemen Georgina Woodward
Human beings do not see material things /objects-themselves. They see liknesses ( observation products also called Image realities) which are formed from the reciept and processing of sensory data obtained at that particular place, at that time, by that observer. What is seen corresponds to the brain activity that is stimulated .In particular the visual cortex where the image is identified and parts of the brain where associated memory and learning is located. The sensory data that is used to provide vision is photon particles ,released by material objects into the environment and carried by waves though it. Only when processed, is the likeness seen. it corresponds to the object when the sesnsory data was released not when recieved by an obsever. Thus it is seen as it was not neccesarily as it is now/ has become. In order to shed sensory data an object must necessarily exist as such.
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When after release into the environment, the sensory data is recieved by an observer or absorbed by a non observer object varies depending on position of object and observer and other objects in the local environment. How long the photon has travelled through the environment before reciept gives a sort of time dimension to be included in modelling what is seen, as well as the spatial ones .For human vision it is 2d amagamation of images from two eyes each having a vertical and horizontal axis, as well as perspective dimension overlapping the previously mentioned time dimension, which is orthoganal to them. This is about what is seen, not what exists independently of observation.
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I often hear it said that we live in a simulation. It is so because the brain simulates the external environment, including mapping of constituents using the sensory data available to it,. Awareness of what is in the external local enviroment sensed by the organism and experienced as sensations ( vision, hearing, olfaction or smelling, touch and taste ) and the organisms endocrine response to them and the sensory data , experienced as feelings.
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An observation product generateded by a human sensory sysyem is not a material object, though it may have the appearance of it. It is an incomplete semblance, can not independently function and usually just a surface appearance.
It is generated intrernally although it appears to be outside. the amalgumated hoizontal and vertical dimensions, the perspective dimension and virtual time dimension all pertain to the generated simulation, electrical activation of brain material or, mind, not real matter itself. The simulation is perdurant in a virtual manner, as the parts of it are simulated from sensory data that has taken different times to reach the observer together. The semblance of something as it was can be seen overlaid the material object as it is. The is no reason to assume material objects have parts at different times ,they are likely wholly at a time but have ,according to their type some endurance. Growth, repair and maintenance apply to material objects.