A Method to Measure Consciousness, and Demonstrations of Worldly Multiplicity by Tommy Gilbertson

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Recently, I read an article that there is an experiment being designed to test whether space is discrete or continuous. Basically, the description I saw is that it will consist of two seperate interferometers (two simultaneous experiments), which will measure the difference in path length (by interference) of the light beam as it is split and then rejoined subsequently. The theory is that if space is quantized, the beam-spitting mirrors will be buffeted by quantum jitters. This will be a fundamental experiment, where the outcome is unknown. The results of this experiment could affect our fundamental understanding of the way the Universe works. And has a crucial bearing on the question of the veracity of the Holographic Principle.

1) It is this researcher's speculation that this experiment will have a positive result, and that space is digital (quantized). I won't state my reasoning here, but will be unsurprised by this paradigm-shaking result.

2) A beginning on mathematically formulating the qm equations desribing the experiment. It is accepted in QM that two observables can 'have a value' for any state it the state is an eigenstate of the dynamical variable (observable). So the sense that the two seperate but identical experments can be compared, as a dynamical variable describing the relationship. Or two numbers describing the eigenvalues (observations numerical results) for the two seperate experiments. This dynamical variable I call C. See my essay above for a mathematical formulation of the observable C (which I call Consciousness), without considering commutation relations. This commutation relation is critical to formulate, so will be addressed in a future work.

Here are the equations describing the experiments: C|C'>=C'|C'> and C|C''>=C''|C''>,

where C is the dynamical variable/linear operator representing Consciousness (the the sense of Young's Double-Slit experimental results, and therefore the above essay's derivation), C' and C'' are the eigenvalues belonging to this observable (this could be MRI scan results, interference patterns, learning potential, etc.), and |C'> and |C''> are eigenkets of Consciousness, belonging to the eigenvalues C' and C'', q.v.

If the experiments are performed simultaneously, as is planned, the two expermental results will be described respectively by the above equations. In order to deduce deep connections and relationships in relation to consciousness (or to compare the two experiments meaningfully), an observable like C (common to both experiments) must be used in both sets of equations (again as above).

Now, it also commonly accepted that one photon always only interferes with itself. Two different photons always interefere. How then can we possible get any insight by comparing the two seperate experiments? Each intereferometer has it's own photon, interefereing only with itself. So what possible conclusions can be drawn about the two seperate photons in the two separate interferometer setups?

The answer is in the beam-splitter of each experiment is subject to the same (if present) average buffeting of position by discrete space. This should be an identical effect in both experments and allows compaarisons. So, again, a common dynamical variable has to be used in both equations describing the interactions. I call it C. The aformentioned experimenters may have a different symbol that represents a common linear operator...

FYI: All you astrophysicist, theoreticians and experts out there (as will has semi-professionals like yours truly): have no illusions that by ignoring my thread here and supplying feedback so scantily, that that in any way signifies that my work is not interesting, original or incorrect.

Please contribute to this discussion.

Otherwise, I may be forced to continue the derivation. And if that doesn't get the attention of potential science employers, I shall reveal my own Hypothoses per Universal reality, qm and 6-D supergravity.

This experiment is dangourous to our Ideology. We as a civilization have finally reached a point where we are beginning to objectively intuit the biggest Questions that can be asked, due to these new experiments.

For example, what if we do eventually prove that the Universe is not only digital, but is a virtual reality? What then? How do we proceed as scientists? As spiritual people? The answer seems to be that both aspects of humanity would be required to move forward in a Universe proved to be Virtual--A NEW discipline would then be needed, one that combines religious thought with scientific thought. But that's all boring speculation about future expermental result.

Obviously, this researcher is skipping right over these details and assuming the Virtual Reality Hypothese right off the batt! I'm skipping right over the previous paragraph as assuming the results are true. In other words, this researcher is directing research and working on consequences of a Virtual Universe as if...

I really want to be on that team performing that experiment. In Optics 401 (lab) as University we all performed the M-M interferometer experiment to measure the 'ether' (really to prove that there is no measureable ether), but I always felt unsatisfied with the design: the experiment only measures the beam interfereence in 2 dimensions, as the experimental setup is moving through 3 dimensional space. I always felt that the whole interferometer setup should also be rotated 'up' into this plane as well, and the ether measured. Normally, the interferometer setup is only rotated 90 deg. in the horizonal plane and the exp. performed again. My suggestion is a third measurement, with the setup rotated vertically also.

Anyways, again (if you are listening) I would wish more than anything to work with those experimenters on this. At least they should consider adding the vertical (third othogonal direction) dimension when performing this experiment.

Nevertheless, there is still this: if I am unemployed in a virtual reality, am I really unemployed? "Real" in this case means whatever the programmers of you reality decided 'real' would be. So maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree, and getting a good science job requires me to get the attention of said programmer. In general, it is very easy to get the attention of the world. But mostly this is negative attention and requires no skill s or education. Specifically, getting the world's (and thereby the Programmer's/potential employers) attention in a positive, non-harmful way is much more difficult.

So as I am trying to attain the goals of: movie star, famous author, sports star, politician, astronaut, philospher (which obviously the world has an unnatural affection for the first four), in order to get noticed (in a good way), I am nattering away in this nabob-deficient thread.

I dare someone famous or exceptional in their fields to comment here, and burst my bubble-universe...

Was rapidly typing, so must make the correction that in the above, this statement is totally false, " Two different photons always interefere. "

The correct statement is: "Two different photons never interefere"

P.S. This fact, along with the fact that a photon only interferes with itself, has led some to speculate that all the photons in the Universe (and other fundamental QM particles) are actuall the SAME particle (each to is singular Kind, eg. one photon, one electron, etc.). Travelling at light speed and experiencing no time, this one electron, for example, makes up all the electrons in existence, travelling through Time to be many place a t once. Seriously, I'm not making that up lol!

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Please email me, Craig Hogan, I will mop the floor if I have to! Please allow me to contribute. One green physicist, with a B.Sc. in Science, Optics specialty, and Mathematical minor; avaiable at bargain-basement salary (little experierence) and willing to relocate anywhere. But when I learned of this experiment, it is obvious that if I had the luxury to choose whatever I want as a career at this point, this experiment is what I would choose to work on and be a part of. Please pass this on...

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The most sage, even-tempered, calm and wise group of two would consist of two people, each suffering severe manic/depressive episodes simultaneously. If their diametric states are exactly 180 deg. out of phase, and if the periods of states are equal. That's a lot of ifs...

Update to a quote by O. Wilde; quote follows: "The only thing worse than being talked about, is not being talked about."

Update: Except in the fqxi community, where most of the talking (or not) is done by famous, rich, rocket-scientists. Then it's a horse apiece. The only thing worse than being talked about in the fqxi community (or not), is to not have a voice in said heady company.

And i thank you for this opportunity to talk to myself! Because it's in here, almost like i'm an actual member! Oh the horror of not even being considered. Whose paradigm do I have to shift to get my foot in the door, anyway?

How to bend a spoon with your mind...

Close your eyes and mentally imagine the spoon bending as you concentrate upon it. See it with your mental image.

Now open your eyes, look at the spoon in your hand, but imagine your mental image of what you are percieving instead of what you are actually seeing.

As you imagine the spoon bending in your minds eye, if done correctly, the actual spoon in your hand will react by collapsing all the multiplicity of universes in which the spoon does not bend, and in the one universe you are actually in, the alternate possible universes (where the spoon does not bend) will eventually dissapear, leaving you in a universe where it seems like you just bent a spoon with your mind.

This idea is generalized to actual physical experience, and is explained through quantum mechanics as the Observer influencing the Measured.

Hopefully this makes no sense, and doesn't bring existence to an end as you (you being the general person with a consciousness) slowly figure this out on your own, at different rates of success for different individuals, and those narcissists among us don't dominate the collective perception of the this particular universe. Where I'm explaining how to bend spoons with will only.

TMG, demonstrating Universal Multiplicity since 2011. An Object of Thought that is endless by definition, and by demonstration in this thread and essay.

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